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#1 - The difference is that we have no idea of what Jesus and Mary and Peter looked like.
Soooo, javing a painting of ANYBODY ptior to the invrntion of tha camera is a SIN??
CaYOU
show me the verse in Scripture that makes this claim??

#2 - We are commanded not to pray to anyone other then the Lord Jesus Christ and the FATHER.
WRONG.
To pray simply means to "ASK".

Definition of the word “PRAY”:

Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary:
Full Definition of pray
transitive verb
1:
entreat, implore —often used as a function word in introducing a question, request, or plea<pray be careful>
2: to get or bring by praying

intransitive verb
1:
to make a request in a humble manner

2: to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving


"Pray", as it pertains to God is a SECONGARY definition.

Acts 27:34 - KJV

"Wherefore
I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health: for there shall not an hair fall from the head of any of you".

#3 - We are commanded to pray for each, while here on earth and never to anyone in Heaven other then JESUS and the FATHER
Shoow me the verse in Scriptuyre that says that members of the Body of Chrst cannot pray for each other when they are in Heaven,
Rev. 8:5 shows the Elders in Heaven interceding on our behalf. Re. 8:5 shows the Angels doing the SAME thig . . .
 

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The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are children of God..= by supernatural divine heart revelation.

We can only learn from the Holy Spirit, I have to wait on him, to bring his word to my understanding...much of the word he has not brought to my understanding.only what he wants me to know so far, I don’t strive by self to understand his word I can’t..as I know nothing unless he chooses to reveal his truth to my heart...it’s all in God’s timing...not mine, I have no say in what he brings to my understanding. Im just obedient to listening to him , keeping my ears open to hear his voice, also to see what is written.




Does he witness his truth to your spirit, he gives me scripture in my mind, then he helps me understand it in my spirit, as that is where I communicate with Gods Spirit.,.from my spirit as we are spirit children...

Did you also see my question that I asked ofyou?

Again I'm not understanding your intellect, sorry.
RJ you are buzzing around a mile a minute...

Look, I answered your last question you gave me, and in so doing I shared one way how I grow in maturity.
To know how one grows in maturity is a huge subject, and I do have time to go into any detail at this point, that might suffice.

I already gave you a few definitions of maturity in my previous post to you.
 

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RJ you are buzzing around a mile a minute...
No I’m not buzzing around as you call, it..what’s in my heart from the Spirit will be written down, my testimony , my belief and my opinion.

Whatever the Spirit wants me to say it will be said...not saying that it’s always the Spirit that speaks out of my mouth, I know the old man still pops up from time to time...I am very obedient to God most of the time I believe..and NO MANS PUT DOWNS will ever get in his way..he has built me up in his confidence not my own..Praise God.

Colossians 2:7

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7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
Look, I answered your last question you gave me, and in so doing I shared one way how I grow in maturity.
To know how one grows in maturity is a huge subject, and I do have time to go into any detail at this point, that might suffice.

I already gave you a few definitions of maturity in my previous post to you.
I asked you , when we bad mouth members would you say that is spiritual maturity.?

It’s only one question that I asked of you?

Bad mouthing members imo , is spiritual Immaturity...and I’ve seen a few doing it, mentioning no names.

Jesus would never have spoken to members the way we do at times...old man of ignorance pops up quite often on this forum.
 
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Of course being chosen in Him is salvation, as all of those chosen will trust themselves to Christ.
So they when born into this world, all things work to their good as they are the called of Jesus Christ.
They must receive Him, which is why Paul says it like this about the elect.

2 Timothy 2:10
Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

We should also be of the same mind, it is NOT US saving anyone, God can use us to be a witness to others of the goodness of our God, salvation is of the Lord.
Because of Him you are in Christ Jesus.

Glory Only in the Lord​

26 For [k]you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many [l]noble, are called. 27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28 and the [m]base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 that no flesh should glory in His presence. 30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.”
Eden aint burning , its burnt my friend . THERE be ONLY ONE NAME i can point too
with the dire reminder ye MUST BELEIVE ON HIM . Er, that be JESUS THE CHRIST .
any other message that wont point too or remind about , YEAH its a message that this world has NO TIME FOR my friend .
Muslims cannot save themselves
with man this is impossible . hindus cannot save themselves , no man can .
BUT I KNOW how GOD chose to save the world
BY THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL that all who do BELIEVE would be saved . SO THAT MY MESSAGE to all and for all .
 
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We must all have the Holy Spirit as our living testimony.

Scripture alone I’m afraid is meaningless..
Without the HOLY SPIRIT can none truly understand the scripture as it ought to be understood .
But KNOW THIS rita and KNOW and learn it well .
THE HOLY GHOST INSPIRED THEM SCRIPS and IT WILL NEVER ONCE CONTRADICT A WORD that is written .
IF it do , IT AINT HOLY and thus it aint of GOD , it aint HIS SPIRIT .
now let the BORN AGAIN GET IN THEM BIBLES and love EVERY WORD and learn it well .
 

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You mean like you falsely accuse Catholics of being led by Satan and the Pope of being THE Antichrist and " Interfaith rants" that portray hatred towards _ in reality _ brothers and sisters in Christ?
No, I wouldn't want to falsely accuse you - I just simply don't believe you. I didn't call you a liar, just noticed how odd it was how almost 200 posts by Marvelloustime are favorable responses to you only, minutes apart.
Many of us _ as is evident in many threads _ do not believe what eachother is saying _ regardless of our claim to be Christians. People online wear masks, pretend to be someone they are not _ say all sorts of things about themselves that no one can verify and even use false names - not their real one, to hide their identity. So anything online is questionable, even on a Christian Forum.
Maybe Marvelloustime is your split alter ego and you are not even aware if it?
We won't be able to take you to court on this. You are innocent until proven guilty, but it sure seems like the evidence stacks up against you. You said she disagrees with you sometimes. Okay out of all her posts, find a few, prove it. Doubt you will.
I don't really care much, just thought it was odd and peculiar. I won't bother you anymore about it.
Have a Marvellous Christmas and New Year!
sorry bud but the RCC does the all out work of darkness . and i am gonna warn everyone catholic
to get out from under that harlot . not you ,not yalls false verision of seeker friendly fake love
gonna stop me .
STOP STRADDLING THE FENCE pardner , its the worst place to be . CHOOSE YE THIS DAY
and try OPENING THE BIBLE FOR YOU after choosing .
WE been taken fora ride friend . I dont heed darkness and false love and twisted unity and satans finding common ground .
SO what you need to do is to decide .
BUT STOP PLAYING MIDDLE man friend . say what you mean and mean what you say .
YOU need to decide for YOU .
What to do with men like me . cause we sure as heck AINT NEVER EVER GOING to go in yalls direction .
BIBLE TIME . do with that as you will . the VATICAN is of anti christ and all that is unholy . frankly
i dont care if that makes me seem as a hater to you or not . INTERFAITH is of anti christ
and i done what i could for you friend . SO you and this society and ever false anti christ let us be one interfaith led lie
needs to either repent of the lie , or decide what to do with men like me . cause , I AINT NEVAH gonna go in yalls direction .
NOW decide .
 
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Soooo, javing a painting of ANYBODY ptior to the invrntion of tha camera is a SIN??
CaYOU
show me the verse in Scripture that makes this claim??

WRONG.

To pray simply means to "ASK".

Definition of the word “PRAY”:

Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary:
Full Definition of pray
transitive verb
1:
entreat, implore —often used as a function word in introducing a question, request, or plea<pray be careful>
2: to get or bring by praying

intransitive verb
1:
to make a request in a humble manner

2: to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving


"Pray", as it pertains to God is a SECONGARY definition.

Acts 27:34 - KJV

"Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health: for there shall not an hair fall from the head of any of you".

Shoow me the verse in Scriptuyre that says that members of the Body of Chrst cannot pray for each other when they are in Heaven,
Rev. 8:5 shows the Elders in Heaven interceding on our behalf. Re. 8:5 shows the Angels doing the SAME thig . . .
#3 - We are commanded to pray for each other, while here on earth and never to anyone in Heaven other then JESUS and the FATHER
 

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#3 - We are commanded to pray for each other, while here on earth and never to anyone in Heaven other then JESUS and the FATHER
HUH??
I already responded to this . . .

Shoow me the verse in Scriptuyre that says that members of the Body of Chrst cannot pray for each other when they are in Heaven,
Rev. 8:5 shows the Elders in Heaven interceding on our behalf. Re. 8:5 shows the Angels doing the SAME thig . .
 

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, I AINT NEVAH gonna go in yalls direction .
I believe that "Jesus died for my sins, was buried and rose on the third day according to the scriptures"!

>>>That is the GOSPEL. <<<

That is the prerequisite of Salvation, belief in Jesus and what He did.
As I have suggested to you before, go and talk to Catholics as they come out of church and ask them if they believe the Gospel, as quoted above. Ask the Priest. They will all agree. You would be hard pressed to find any who don't. And if course the Pope does, Cardinals, Bishops, nuns, etc.
I know they have false doctines, but these false doctrines do not invalidate their faith in Christ. A prayer to a Saint or Mary is just an empty prayer. They do pray to the Father, as Jesus instructed us to.
 

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#3 - We are commanded to pray for each other, while here on earth and never to anyone in Heaven other then JESUS and the FATHER
Correct my friend . but you have no idea who you typing too my friend .
Alexander the coppersmith was not the only one who greatly withstood the words of truth .
MANY HAVE david . they sit under a harlot that the entire early church warned of and about .
That whore has not rested david . SHE HAS GROWN and grown massive . HER INFLUENCE has reached
unto the entire political realm of man and has infiltrated every fabric of even the protestant realm now .
THAT WHORE , MOTHER OF ALL HARLOTS is the MOTHER OF INTERFAITH .
SHE IS . this did not come from the false religoins like satans muslims realm or satans hindu or any other du realm .
THIS HARLOT and her cup of interfaith , came as did JUDAS ISCARIOT
FROM WITHIN .
with perhaps tears in his eyes , paul had warned the church that wolves would come and come FROM WITHIN
as well . peter and others who KNEW THE LORD warned even their own what was and was coming .
THAT WHORE went from sitting over the old covenenant as the LYING WHORE
to now sitting over the new covenant . THAT WHORE i will expose and her satantic interfaith lie .
THE WHORE always comes from within , the betrayer of the brethern cometh from within
always cloaked as though she is but SHE IS NOT .
She has killeld many prophets in times past who had come to warn her men and leaders
whose leaders SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE SHEEP but were not but FED THEMSELVES .
AND they killed the prophets who warnd and who exposed her .
THEN JESUS CAME and THE HARLOT and her leaders DID thesame
and used one from within TO BETRAY . DO KEEP THAT IN MIND david .
Lets continue for now THIS WHORE does yet the same but under and in the name of JESUS the CHRIST HIMSELF .
OH YEAH , SHE USES HIS NAME . SHE A WHORE AND A Liar but BELIEVE YOU ME she uses HIS NAME
as do her many daughters .
Weep not for me david . Simply pray . because if i had my way
I would find a way to expose her THROUGH EVERY MEANS avaliable . I SHALL NOT REST
nor give knee to THAT WHORE , i shall expose her and all her works . david they gonna have to kill me .
words dont work on me . threats dont , i count all persecutoin for CHRIST as gain .
TO silence my mouth , they gonna have to KILL me and cut my tongue out of my thoat .
I had rather be dead than follow satans false love interfaith lets find common ground harlot led lie .
 

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Without the HOLY SPIRIT can none truly understand the scripture as it ought to be understood .
But KNOW THIS rita and KNOW and learn it well .
THE HOLY GHOST INSPIRED THEM SCRIPS and IT WILL NEVER ONCE CONTRADICT A WORD that is written .
IF it do , IT AINT HOLY and thus it aint of GOD , it aint HIS SPIRIT .
now let the BORN AGAIN GET IN THEM BIBLES and love EVERY WORD and learn it well .
She says boldly that scripture is meaningless. That’s coming close to blasphemy…
 

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I believe that "Jesus died for my sins, was buried and rose on the third day according to the scriptures"!

>>>That is the GOSPEL. <<<

That is the prerequisite of Salvation, belief in Jesus and what He did.
As I have suggested to you before, go and talk to Catholics as they come out of church and ask them if they believe the Gospel, as quoted above. Ask the Priest. They will all agree. You would be hard pressed to find any who don't. And if course the Pope does, Cardinals, Bishops, nuns, etc.
I know they have false doctines, but these false doctrines do not invalidate their faith in Christ. A prayer to a Saint or Mary is just an empty prayer. They do pray to the Father, as Jesus instructed us to.
MANY SAY THAT . you need to sit down friend . cause WHILE What you said in big black bold letters is ABSOLUTELY TRUE .
though do you remind this to musilms or any of the lost .
okay back to the subject . What you put in bold black type is ABSOLUTELY TRUE .
but bud i could once quoate that and still i followed SATAN HISMELF . may that put the fear of GOD INTO YOU .
the RCC is of satan andi will not apoligize . not for a second will i apolgize for saying that .
The vatican is of satan . and i will not apologize for saying this .
WHEN are you gonna learn that folks can LIP STUFF and yet USE HIS NAME TO DECIEVE .
NOW
notice the beauty of what you wrote in that big bold true lovely wonderful truth .
TRY TOREMEMBER THIS when SATANS INTERFAITH says , OUR TRUTH IS NO BETTER than any other religoins truth .
HEY buddie , my friend , that is a crock of crap . Them other religoins serve satan , they do not believe
JESUS died for oursins , nor that JESUS is even THE CHRIST . SO MUCH FOR SATANS INTERFAITH ABRAHAM PEACE ACCORDS
which even TRUMPS supporters believe in . WE ARE BEING , let me repeat this , BEING DEICIEVED .
AND IT really is BIBLE TIME . You might ask yourself why would some call me anti christ or son of perdtion or satan .
 
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How did God give Jesus the power to perform these miracles, that is what I’m asking...if he was just a mere human.how could he turn all those few loaves and feed how many?
God didn't give Jesus the power to perform miracles; instead, God allowed Jesus to command that a miracle occur, and God would ensure it happened as Jesus said. In this way, the miracle becomes a salient and profound witness that God was behind what Jesus was teaching. For instance, Jesus told the Pharisees that if they didn't believe what Jesus said, then they should at least believe the works that he performed, which would only be possible if God was behind them.

Remember, Nikodemus was correct to conclude that Jesus couldn't perform the miracles unless God was behind them. John 3:2


Plus how did he raise Lazerath from the dead?
Jesus says that he raised Lazarus from the dead in order to demonstrate that the Father assigned the resurrection to him. When the time comes, the resurrection will take place at the command of Jesus. In order to prove it, Jesus commanded Lazarus to come forth from the dead.

John 11:41-43 So they removed the stone. Then Jesus raised His eyes, and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me. I knew that You always hear Me; but because of the people standing around I said it, so that they may believe that You sent Me.” When He had said these things, He cried out with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth.”

If Jesus were using his own power to raise people from the dead, He wouldn't need the Father to hear His prayer. However, since it is the Father who raises Lazarus from the dead, it is important for the Father to hear Jesus's voice and grant His prayer. Jesus performed these miracles so that the rest of Israel would understand that "You always hear me," meaning, "You always hear and answer my prayers."

Good question.
 
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She says boldly that scripture is meaningless. That’s coming close to blasphemy…
some of us have sat under seeker friendly concepts or at least influences .
You said COMING CLOSE TOO .
IT IS BLASPHEMY . not close to it , IT IS . IF GOD said something or inspired it
AND WE SAY OH ITS MEANINGLESS . I GOT TO SAY THAT IS BLASPHEMY . Get only MORE AND MORE in that bible
friend . let us march onwards in the LORD .
 

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Hey! Take it easy on that interfaith stuff. My checking account is getting low with all these donations to St. Judge and I got 5 hungry kids to feed.
Go sell that song to kenny rogers . INTERFAITH IS OF SATAN bud . you got a crop in the field too .
Some of us have a darn good memory friend . i remember that song from childhood in the nineteen eighties .
I think the wifes name was LUCILLE . ya picked i fine time to leave me lucille . heck maybeit was four kids , no wait it was five .
wasnt it . oh dear its been a long long time ago . but anway the point was and still is interfaith is of satan
now
 
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God didn't give Jesus the power to perform miracles; instead, God allowed Jesus to command that a miracle occur, and God would ensure it happened as Jesus said. In this way, the miracle becomes a salient and profound witness that God was behind what Jesus was teaching. For instance, Jesus told the Pharisees that if they didn't believe what Jesus said, then they should at least believe the works that he performed, which would only be possible if God was behind them.

Remember, Nikodemus was correct to conclude that Jesus couldn't perform the miracles unless God was behind them. John 3:2



Jesus says that he raised Lazarus from the dead in order to demonstrate that the Father assigned the resurrection to him. When the time comes, the resurrection will take place at the command of Jesus. In order to prove it, Jesus commanded Lazarus to come forth from the dead.

John 11:41-43 So they removed the stone. Then Jesus raised His eyes, and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me. I knew that You always hear Me; but because of the people standing around I said it, so that they may believe that You sent Me.” When He had said these things, He cried out with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth.”

If Jesus were using his own power to raise people from the dead, He wouldn't need the Father to hear His prayer. However, since it is the Father who raises Lazarus from the dead, it is important for the Father to hear Jesus's voice and grant His prayer. Jesus performed these miracles so that the rest of Israel would understand that "You always hear me," meaning, "You always hear and answer my prayers."

Good question.
What about the fact that Mary came with child, that the Holy Spirit would come upon her...she didn’t conceive her child by Joseph did she.

She became pregnant by the Spirit, so imo he had to be more than human..

Luke 1:35-38

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35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.
38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
 

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some of us have sat under seeker friendly concepts or at least influences .
You said COMING CLOSE TOO .
IT IS BLASPHEMY . not close to it , IT IS . IF GOD said something or inspired it
AND WE SAY OH ITS MEANINGLESS . I GOT TO SAY THAT IS BLASPHEMY . Get only MORE AND MORE in that bible
friend . let us march onwards in the LORD .
Press on, amigo.
 
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