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Ritajanice

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Amen, and now we can move beyond this definition and this infant state RJ, and its scripture, and now grow into maturity...

No it’s not an infant state, that’s your opinion that it is...you also posted a commentary, I asked you this question on another thread @APAK ..you didn’t answer my question? Instead you have posted a commentary on this thread, I hope you understand what it truly means.
I am growing into maturity by the power that is within me, are you?

I’m explaining the importance of being Born Of God.

What do you think growing in maturity means?

When we bad mouth some members would you say that ,that was being mature in the Spirit?
 

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Once again David all you do is post scripture, no living testimony from the Holy Spirit what soever
This is sometimes referred to as the Superman fallacy. It is the opposite of the Strawman fallacy, where the illogical tactic is to invite their opponent to come up with an argument against their position.

Scripture is fact. How does it relate to the price of tea in China? The Superman argument implies YOU figure it out! YOU figure out why you’re wrong and my position is better than your claim!

Sometimes people are direct about the Superman fallacy, such as what you YOU say is the best argument for X. Most of the time it is implied, such as @David in NJ. A dead giveaway is the complete absence of an argument.

Poster 1: GE 1:1
Poster 2: Oh yea? Ex 1:1

It’s truly a tactic when one has no argument at all. Intellectually lazy, if not dishonest.
 
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I am growing into maturity by the power that is within me, are you?

I’m explaining the importance of being Born Of God.

What do you think growing in maturity means?

When we bad mouth some members would you say that ,that was being mature in the Spirit?
It depends RJ. What was the true intent of the communique and even tone? Was it justified? Did the Spirit of God reveal that is was? or not?

For me, I attempt to say the truth as the Spirit wants me to reveal, even with my imperfect and biased personality I possess and let the Spirit of God guide my actions, even past ones...
 

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This is sometimes referred to as the Superman fallacy. It is the opposite of the Strawman fallacy, where the illogical tactic is to invite their opponent to come up with an argument against their position.

Scripture is fact. How does it relate to the price of tea in China? The Superman argument implies YOU figure it out! YOU figure out why you’re wrong and my position is better than your claim!

Sometimes people are direct about the Superman fallacy, such as what you YOU say is the best argument for X. Most of the time it is implied, such as @David in NJ. A dead giveaway is the complete absence of an argument.

Poster 1: GE 1:1
Poster 2: Oh yea? Ex 1:1

It’s truly a tactic when one has no argument at all. Intellectually lazy, if not dishonest.
Logic 101 - If you cannot prove what you say, it means you LOST your argument, due to lack of evidence.
 
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Ritajanice

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It depends RJ. What was the true intent of the communique and even tone? Was it justified? Did the Spirit of God reveal that is was?
The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are children of God..= by supernatural divine heart revelation.

We can only learn from the Holy Spirit, I have to wait on him, to bring his word to my understanding...much of the word he has not brought to my understanding.only what he wants me to know so far, I don’t strive by self to understand his word I can’t..as I know nothing unless he chooses to reveal his truth to my heart...it’s all in God’s timing...not mine, I have no say in what he brings to my understanding. Im just obedient to listening to him , keeping my ears open to hear his voice, also to see what is written.

For me, I attempt to say the truth as the Spirit wants me to reveal

Does he witness his truth to your spirit, he gives me scripture in my mind, then he helps me understand it in my spirit, as that is where I communicate with Gods Spirit.,.from my spirit as we are spirit children...
, even with my imperfect and biased personality I possess and let the Spirit of God guide my actions, even past ones...
Did you also see my question that I asked ofyou?

Again I'm not understanding your intellect, sorry.
 
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Go write your own gospel and book on how the spirit tells you the truth apart from God's word and you will have millions of followers - guaranteed
It is written that man shall not live by bread alone but by every lovely word of GOD .
As it is also written there is a way that seems right unto man but the end is death .
Humanity will do as humanity will do
and what pleases a man or a woman is what they will beleive .
THE SHEEP , they HEED CHRIST and
TRUTH is lovely to their taste . Every WORD O GOD is TRUTH .
People do as people do . But the sheep DO as JESUS BIDS them to do .
AND JESUS , THE SPIRIT , will never once contradict what is written . IF IT DO , RUN it aint of GOD , its of man and darkness .
Many sit exactly where they desired to sit
and many heed and will heed any , any version of Jesus , CEPT THE REAL VERSION baby .
MANY NO LIKEY the REAL DEAL my friend .
SO allow me some parting words , which i know ticks a lot of folks off ,
IF what a man loveth , contradicts in any way THE WORDS OF GODS INSPIRED TRUTH in that bible. YA can bet
from you top to bottom and from ya bottom to top dollar and all you own ,IT AINT COMING FROM GOD . GAROWNNTEE YA THAT .
 

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of Mary, Jesus, Peter Paul John Joseph saints etc etc

NONE - ZIPPO - ZILCH - NADA
But you DO have picture, photos, etc.
What's the difference?

How is having a painting of St. Peter or Mary any different than pictures of your kids, parents, Aunt Winne, etc??
 

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God’s seed is a Living seed..it penetrates my heart /spirit, there he has taken up residence , as I was chosen, predestined to become a child of God.

Born Again of imperishable seed, that liveth and abideth forever.

In my heart / spirit...never ever to leave, all by = supernatural divine heart revelation.
God’s seed is a Living seed.
Absoluetly True

His Word is His SON, who is the Way the Truth and the Life and who gives Eternal Life to those who are His.

Luke 8:11 - "The seed is the word of God."

1 Peter 1:23 - "For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God."
 

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War is bad. Right @Ronald David Bruno? LOL
Interfaith is of anti christ . there is a way which seems right unto man
and it will promise and give the idea that the cause is for the good of man and of the world .
But beware for that is how satan decieves . Interfaith is of satan , of anti christ and all which is of darkness
that has come to merge the decieved to be as one . promisming them all PEACE n SAFETY .
HEY wrangler , that aint what its gonna usher upon the world . THE WRATH OF GOD AND OF THE LAMB
will come upon them all . INTERFAITH is of satan . but beware
for his men can make it seem as though its for the good of the entire world and peace in the middle east .
And by peace shall he destroy many . And he shall establish a convenant of peace .
INTERFAITH is of satan , it is of anti christ , it is of the mystery of inquity .
AND ITS NOT gonna bring peace on earth either . ONLY THE ALLSUION of the DELUSION that it will .
Interfaith finding common ground is of satan , it is of anti christ and it has come
in the name of HE who cometh in His own name . AND YOU have bought into it . I ONLY PRAY
you continue NOT IN IT .
 

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All those chosen before the foundation of the world (the Elect) have already obtained salvation.

2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 (NKJV) 13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
True. And Ephesians describes how this happens.
We in particular, were chosen by God the Father to be in Christ from before the foundation of the world in His love, because of His great love for us.

4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He [a]made us accepted in the Beloved.

And so then, because of that, in our time we trusted in Him. Like Christ says, all that the Father gives me comes to me. And that of all He has given me I lose nothing, this is His will. There is no other name given among men, whereby WE must be saved.
All the 'other sheep' not of this fold (of some from the gentiles), Christ has and says I must go and get them also , they will listen to my voice and follow ME, and there will be one flock and one Shepherd. The sheep hear Him and will not follow the voice of a stranger, they will flee from the stranger.

13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who[d] is the [e]guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
 

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But you DO have picture, photos, etc.
What's the difference?

How is having a painting of St. Peter or Mary any different than pictures of your kids, parent;s Aunt Winne, etc??
#1 - The difference is that we have no idea of what Jesus and Mary and Peter looked like.

#2 - We are commanded not to pray to anyone other then the Lord Jesus Christ and the FATHER.

#3 - We are commanded to pray for each other, while here on earth and never to anyone in Heaven other then JESUS and the FATHER
 

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Absoluetly True

His Word is His SON, who is the Way the Truth and the Life and who gives Eternal Life to those who are His.

Luke 8:11 - "The seed is the word of God."

1 Peter 1:23 - "For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God."
David on the day of the LORD it will be too late .
Now look around this digital room . look around.
If ya house is on fire and i come and knock on your door
and your children are within . And i say to them
hey kiddos want some candy . And i just say
well hey kids have you all noticed a temperature increase as of late .
And they look at me in confusion and say , uh no .
SO then i say OKIE DOKEY you all have a nice night .
And then you come home and find ya house burned to the ground
and er child within burnt to a crisp .
Then i am sitting over on the sidewalk weeping.
So you come over and weep with me
and i tell you , david i did everything i could to save your kids .
And you say , What did you do
AND I TELL you what i did , TELL ME , DID I REALLY DO EVERYTHING I COULD HAVE DONE .
TIME for some seriousness and gravity david . FOLKS is in danger , deadly danger .
 

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Of course being chosen in Him is salvation, as all of those chosen will trust themselves to Christ.
So they when born into this world, all things work to their good as they are the called of Jesus Christ.
They must receive Him, which is why Paul says it like this about the elect.

2 Timothy 2:10
Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

We should also be of the same mind, it is NOT US saving anyone, God can use us to be a witness to others of the goodness of our God, salvation is of the Lord.
Because of Him you are in Christ Jesus.

Glory Only in the Lord​

26 For [k]you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many [l]noble, are called. 27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28 and the [m]base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 that no flesh should glory in His presence. 30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.”
 
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WHAT IF amigo and marvelous are actaully being FALSELY accused of doing something they are not doing .
DO you want to be partaker of false accusations . NO .
You mean like you falsely accuse Catholics of being led by Satan and the Pope of being THE Antichrist and " Interfaith rants" that portray hatred towards _ in reality _ brothers and sisters in Christ?
No, I wouldn't want to falsely accuse you - I just simply don't believe you. I didn't call you a liar, just noticed how odd it was how almost 200 posts by Marvelloustime are favorable responses to you only, minutes apart.
Many of us _ as is evident in many threads _ do not believe what eachother is saying _ regardless of our claim to be Christians. People online wear masks, pretend to be someone they are not _ say all sorts of things about themselves that no one can verify and even use false names - not their real one, to hide their identity. So anything online is questionable, even on a Christian Forum.
Maybe Marvelloustime is your split alter ego and you are not even aware if it?
We won't be able to take you to court on this. You are innocent until proven guilty, but it sure seems like the evidence stacks up against you. You said she disagrees with you sometimes. Okay out of all her posts, find a few, prove it. Doubt you will.
I don't really care much, just thought it was odd and peculiar. I won't bother you anymore about it.
Have a Marvellous Christmas and New Year!
 
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