THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[David in NJ]

I don’t need to know anything from you David, your posts speak for themselves, neither do I have to prove anything to you...

My walk with the Lord is between him and myself.

You should know that you haven’t got a hope in Henry of me believing your doctrine, most of which makes no sense.,in fact I understand the JW better than you..,

So maybe I am one..,.LOL....LOL.

YEP

The Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of Truth ALWAYS exposes the falsehood as HE walks us thru the Holy Scriptures.

The Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are incompatible with the jw falsehood/deception.

Salvation exists in no one else,
for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”

 

[David in NJ]

Yes David, well guess what..I’m turning away from your skewed doctrine,/ religion..

Salvation exists in no one else,
for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”

 

[Ritajanice]

Salvation exists in no one else,
for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”

Born Again David Born Again you put the horse before the cart.then saved from eternal damnation.

You can’t be saved unless one is Born Again David...I’m surprised that you don’t know this..

 

[Ritajanice]

YEP

The Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of Truth ALWAYS exposes the falsehood as HE walks us thru the Holy Scriptures.

The Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are incompatible with the jw falsehood/deception.

Salvation exists in no one else,
for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”

All in your opinion David..while you are at it, did you know that God speaks about how we are to respect other religions, ?

Look it up David, ..

 

[Aunty Jane]

Yahweh is Jesus

Not a single scripture says so. It is the assumption of trinitarians through faulty translation and applied inference and suggestion. This is how science teaches evolution and why so many accept it in spite of the fact that there is no evidence that is not implied or suggested. Humans will believe what they want to believe….

The Apostle Peter knew this and thus he wrote: "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

The Apostle Paul knew this: There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling;
one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Again running away with suggestion because that scripture is not saying what you think it does…or rather not what you want it to. “The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ” is Yahweh….Jesus Christ is not his own God and Father…..I wonder about comprehension skills…I really do…

God knows this:
He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
And He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

"....and few there be that find it...."

“King of Kings and Lord of Lords”….who are these other “kings and lords”? Are they mentioned in heaven? Or is Jesus superior to any human Kings or Lords?

If he ‘treads the winepress of the Almighty’s anger’, why not just say it was his own anger?
It is his Father’s anger he is expressing, just as he did when he threw out the money changers out of the Temple….just as he will do when he comes as judge and executioner…appointed by his God and ”given all authority” to do so.(Matt 28:18)
Does God need to give himself “all authority”? He already has this authority. Your arguments though sincere appear to be desperate regurgitation of the lies satan fed to the ancient church….already prophesied to become apostate…..and you believe them? That is on you.
You have avoided my questions, apparently because you cannot answer them within the framework of your own beliefs.
That is rather telling…..

 

[David in NJ]

Not a single scripture says so. It is the assumption of trinitarians through faulty translation and applied inference and suggestion. This is how science teaches evolution and why so many accept it in spite of the fact that there is no evidence that is not implied or suggested. Humans will believe what they want to believe….

Again running away with suggestion because that scripture is not saying what you think it does…or rather not what you want it to. “The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ” is Yahweh….Jesus Christ is not his own God and Father…..I wonder about comprehension skills…I really do…

“King of Kings and Lord of Lords”….who are these other “kings and lords”? Are they mentioned in heaven? Or is Jesus superior to any human Kings or Lords?

If he ‘treads the winepress of the Almighty’s anger’, why not just say it was his own anger?
It is his Father’s anger he is expressing, just as he did when he threw out the money changers out of the Temple….just as he will do when he comes as judge and executioner…appointed by his God and ”given all authority” to do so.(Matt 28:18)
Does God need to give himself “all authority”? He already has this authority. Your arguments though sincere appear to be desperate regurgitation of the lies satan fed to the ancient church….already prophesied to become apostate…..and you believe them? That is on you.
You have avoided my questions, apparently because you cannot answer them within the framework of your own beliefs.
That is rather telling…..

Not a single scripture says so.

Many many scriptures say so!!!

If you do not believe the words of God how can you possibly know the Way the Truth and the Life???

Isaiah 45:22
“Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other.
I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath.

 

[Ritajanice]

You have avoided my questions, apparently because you cannot answer them within the framework of your own beliefs.
That is rather telling…..

Funny you should say that Aunty, he’s done exactly the same with my questions,,it’s like he’s on a one way track blinkered..very closed mind, that’s very telling as well.

 

[Ritajanice]

The Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are incompatible with the jw falsehood/deception

So you say David, yet I’ve seen them asking you questions, yet you never answer them?

 

[Grailhunter]

Yahweh is Jesus

The Apostle Peter knew this and thus he wrote: "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

The Apostle Paul knew this: There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling;
one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

God knows this:
He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
And He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

"....and few there be that find it...."

A lot of times the Apostles would refer to Yahweh as God and Christ as Lord. Gods that were Father and Son.

testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. Act 20:21

Therefore, having been justified by faith, 1we have bpeace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, Romans 5:1

And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation. Romans 5:11

that you may with one mind and one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Roman 15:6

But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1st Corinthians 15:57

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2nd Corinthians 1:3

The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. 2nd Corinthians 11:31

Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, Galatians 1:3

But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. Galatians 6:14

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, Ephesians 1:3

that cthe God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, dmay give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, Ephesians 1:17

For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Ephesians 3:14

giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, Ephesians 5:20

We give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, Colossians 1:3

remembering without ceasing your work of faith, labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father, 1st Thessalonians 1:3

Now may our God and Father Himself, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way to you. 1st Thessalonians 3:11

so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints. 1st Thessalonians 3:13

Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1st Thessalonians 5:23

in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2nd Thessalonians 1:8

that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ. 2nd Thessalonians 1:12

Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, 2nd Thessalonians 2:16

Now may the God of peace who brought up our Lord Jesus from the dead, that great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Hebrews 13:20

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1st Peter 1:3

keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. Jude 1:21

 

[Scott Downey]

Salvation exists in no one else,
for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”

Yes, we must receive Him, which we will do when born of God
We must be born again to see and enter the kingdom of God
And we are born again of the Spirit, Christ says like the wind that blows, which you do not see but you feel the effects.
We are not born of our will of our flesh, we are born of God according to His will for us.

If anyone is to be enlightened, they will be enlightened by the light coming from Christ.
All of this has been determined for us by God before time began.

John’s Witness: The True Light​

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That[b] was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

When you add up John 1 and John 3, you find God, Son, Spirit, all three.

 

[David in NJ]

Yes, we must receive Him, which we will do when born of God
We must be born again to see and enter the kingdom of God
And we are born again of the Spirit, Christ says like the wind that blows, which you do not see but you feel the effects.
We are not born of our will of our flesh, we are born of God according to His will for us.

If anyone is to be enlightened, they will be enlightened by the light coming from Christ.
All of this has been determined for us by God before time began.

John’s Witness: The True Light​

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That[b] was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

When you add up John 1 and John 3, you find God, Son, Spirit, all three.

Which came first - the chicken or the egg?

No one is born-again by the Spirit except thru...................................???

What does the scripture say???

 

[David in NJ]

Yes, we must receive Him, which we will do when born of God
We must be born again to see and enter the kingdom of God
And we are born again of the Spirit, Christ says like the wind that blows, which you do not see but you feel the effects.
We are not born of our will of our flesh, we are born of God according to His will for us.

If anyone is to be enlightened, they will be enlightened by the light coming from Christ.
All of this has been determined for us by God before time began.

John’s Witness: The True Light​

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That[b] was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

When you add up John 1 and John 3, you find God, Son, Spirit, all three.

When you add up John 1 and John 3, you find God, Son, Spirit, all three.

ABSOLUTELY
It is everywhere in the scriptures but mostly in the NT since it could not FULLY be confirmed until Christ and the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.

Question for you my Brother: When did God first establish in scripture that God is THREE???

 

[David in NJ]

A lot of times the Apostles would refer to Yahweh as God and Christ as Lord. Gods that were Father and Son.

testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. Act 20:21

Therefore, having been justified by faith, 1we have bpeace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, Romans 5:1

And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation. Romans 5:11

that you may with one mind and one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Roman 15:6

But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1st Corinthians 15:57

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2nd Corinthians 1:3

The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. 2nd Corinthians 11:31

Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, Galatians 1:3

But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. Galatians 6:14

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, Ephesians 1:3

that cthe God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, dmay give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, Ephesians 1:17

For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Ephesians 3:14

giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, Ephesians 5:20

We give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, Colossians 1:3

remembering without ceasing your work of faith, labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father, 1st Thessalonians 1:3

Now may our God and Father Himself, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way to you. 1st Thessalonians 3:11

so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints. 1st Thessalonians 3:13

Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1st Thessalonians 5:23

in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2nd Thessalonians 1:8

that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ. 2nd Thessalonians 1:12

Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, 2nd Thessalonians 2:16

Now may the God of peace who brought up our Lord Jesus from the dead, that great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Hebrews 13:20

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1st Peter 1:3

keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. Jude 1:21

The correct word used for God is Elohim

In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

Unless we place ourselves on the Foundation of Truth beginning in Genesis, we will struggle to understand FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT

 

[David in NJ]

The Holy Spirit moved me to post this link for everyone to read.

"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" - Exodus 20:16

Bearing false witness is harmful and hurtful to the person who is being slandered.
It is not from the Holy Spirit and thus why the Commandment in the TEN Commandments and the Gospel.
It should never be done by a Born-Again saint, especially to another Born-Again saint.

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[Grailhunter]

The correct word used for God is Elohim

In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

Unless we place ourselves on the Foundation of Truth beginning in Genesis, we will struggle to understand FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT

You are correct the Hebrew word for God is Elohim
The Greek word for God is "theos

But keep in mind that the Hebrews/Israelites very seldom used this word because it is generic term for God,god,goddess. But that is how it reads in your Bible. Ever heard of the word Tetragrammaton YHWH. At one time YHWH appeared around 6,800 times and they removed that word replacing it with Elohim or Adonai or both.

Another little known fact is that the names of God the Father or God the Son do not appear in our Bibles unless you own a Sacred Names Bible. God the Father’s name was removed and the name for God the Son is not a name it is a Greek word, Ἰησοῦς that means healer. And no one knows where the name Jesus came from it just appeared in the 17th century. In Geneva Bible and the first prints of the King James Version the word Ἰησοῦς was used and it is not Yeshua's name.

 

[David in NJ]

You are correct the Hebrew word for God is Elohim
The Greek word for God is "theos

But keep in mind that the Hebrews/Israelites very seldom used this word because it is generic term for God,god,goddess. But that is how it reads in your Bible. Ever heard of the word Tetragrammaton YHWH. At one time YHWH appeared around 6,800 times and they removed that word replacing it with Elohim or Adonai or both.

Another little known fact is that the names of God the Father or God the Son do not appear in our Bibles unless you own a Sacred Names Bible. God the Father’s name was removed and the name for God the Son is not a name it is a Greek word, Ἰησοῦς that means healer. And no one knows where the name Jesus came from it just appeared in the 17th century. In Geneva Bible and the first prints of the King James Version the word Ἰησοῦς was used and it is not Yeshua's name.

In order to discern Who is Who in the OT scriptures we need to look at what JESUS says in His Gospel.
For if we choose to disregard the words of Christ, who is the Way the Truth and the Life, how can we understand the OT scriptures???

JESUS made this 'Matter of FACT statement(s):
John 6:46 - No one has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father.
John 5:37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.

@Grailhunter - do you believe these words spoken by JESUS???

 

[Aunty Jane]

Many many scriptures say so!!!

If you do not believe the words of God how can you possibly know the Way the Truth and the Life???

Isaiah 45:22
“Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other.
I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath.

Who is this written to and for? Who is speaking and what does he mean?
You quote these scriptures as if everyone should see what you are assuming. They do not…..
Where is it saying what you are suggesting?
When will “every knee bow” and “every tongue take an oath”? What is this declaration in connection with?

Isaiah ch 40-66 have as their theme in the Israelites’ release from Babylon, the return of the Jewish remnant, and the restoration of Zion.
Taking a passage out of context is what people do when they have no background knowledge of the words being said…..they are given a context that doesn’t really fit anything but the point they are attempting to make.

Isa ch 45-48…..For the sake of Israel’s preservation, Yahweh names Cyrus to vanquish the Babylon world power that God allowed to take them into exile as a punishment lasting 70 years. Cyrus the Persian would be their savior, conquering mighty Babylon in one night with barely an arrow fired, just as it was prophesied.
Men will be made to know that Yahweh alone is God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, and man upon it. He mocks Babylon’s gods Bel and Nebo, for only He can tell “the finale from the beginning”. The virgin daughter of Babylon is to sit in the dust, dethroned and naked, and the multitude of her counselors will be burned up like stubble. God tells the ‘iron-necked, copper-headed’ Israelite idol worshipers that they could have peace, righteousness, and prosperity by listening to him, but “there is no peace” he says, “for the wicked ones.” (Isa 48:4; 22)

Read the whole passage and see what the context is before you post it……that is always a good idea.
That is what makes Bible study superior to the study of theology….I hope you understand the difference.

 

[Aunty Jane]

John’s Witness: The True Light​

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That[b] was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Who was John the Baptist? And what witness did he bear regarding the of whom one he said “was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.”
Who was John talking about?
He said…”He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”

He came to his own people but was rejected by them….but not by all…”as many as did receive him, he gave the right to become God’s children”. These were the first Christians…all Jewish, and taken into the new covenant. Those who rejected Christ as Messiah were then rejected by their God because he had fulfilled his obligation to them, and they had many times broken their covenant with him. (Matt 23:37-39)

And the very next verse says…..
”And the Word became flesh and abode among us and we saw his glory, glory such as that of an only son from the Father, full of grace and truth.“

Did they see God? NO! They saw “an only son from the Father” whose grace and truth were also from his God. Nothing Jesus taught was his….it all came from the Father, just like the Revelation to John which begins with the words….
”A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John.”
Note the chain of command….From God to Jesus, to an angel then to John….Why did God have to give this to Jesus if he is God? Please answer.

When you add up John 1 and John 3, you find God, Son, Spirit, all three.

And this is the conclusion you come to??? It really isn’t there….
There is definitely God, son and spirit, but all three are never said to be one God….and that is the truth of the matter. The trinity is not even mentioned in scripture except by inference and suggestion in ambiguous or mistranslated verses. The first Christians would never have even heard of such a thing. It is blasphemous.

 

[David in NJ]

Who is this written to and for? Who is speaking and what does he mean?
You quote these scriptures as if everyone should see what you are assuming. They do not…..
Where is it saying what you are suggesting?
When will “every knee bow” and “every tongue take an oath”? What is this declaration in connection with?

Isaiah ch 40-66 have as their theme in the Israelites’ release from Babylon, the return of the Jewish remnant, and the restoration of Zion.
Taking a passage out of context is what people do when they have no background knowledge of the words being said…..they are given a context that doesn’t really fit anything but the point they are attempting to make.

Isa ch 45-48…..For the sake of Israel’s preservation, Yahweh names Cyrus to vanquish the Babylon world power that God allowed to take them into exile as a punishment lasting 70 years. Cyrus the Persian would be their savior, conquering mighty Babylon in one night with barely an arrow fired, just as it was prophesied.
Men will be made to know that Yahweh alone is God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, and man upon it. He mocks Babylon’s gods Bel and Nebo, for only He can tell “the finale from the beginning”. The virgin daughter of Babylon is to sit in the dust, dethroned and naked, and the multitude of her counselors will be burned up like stubble. God tells the ‘iron-necked, copper-headed’ Israelite idol worshipers that they could have peace, righteousness, and prosperity by listening to him, but “there is no peace” he says, “for the wicked ones.” (Isa 48:4; 22)

Read the whole passage and see what the context is before you post it……that is always a good idea.
That is what makes Bible study superior to the study of theology….I hope you understand the difference.

When will “every knee bow” and “every tongue take an oath”? What is this declaration in connection with?

All scripture that glorifies God connects to the Lord
There is only One Lord = the Lord Jesus Christ

Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place
and gave Him the name above all names,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

"Without faith it is impossible to please God"

 

[TheHC]

Not saying that at all. I am only saying that perhaps the Devil misjudged Jesus's resolve.

Yeah, the Devil did misjudge Jesus’ resolve, you’re right.

The Devil tried, though… he wouldn’t have, if he didn’t think there was a chance, ie., thought Jesus was God.

A few times, when Jesus was casting out demons from possessed Jews, these demons said to Jesus, “We know exactly who you are, the Holy One of God.”

Never once did they call him ‘God’.
As “sons of God” themselves, albeit rebellious & alienated, they knew who Jesus was…. their former big brother.