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St. SteVen

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who testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God, explain what that means?
Anyone who can testify is a person.

God the Holy Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God.

Romans 8:16 NIV
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.

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David you have evaded all of my questions.
This is the dead giveaway that Trinitarians know they cannot support their doctrine. The simple deflection tactic is only they get to ask questions.

For a given proposition, there are likely to be pro’s and con’s. Let’s say, putting fluoride in the drinking water? Just because there are SOME con’s does not mean the proposition is bad. It’s about the net, all things considered, what is overall better for human health?

The same with most things. I go back to post #148. Why is believing 3=1 important from a Scriptural perspective? It’s telling that trinitarians don’t answer this question.
 
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This is the dead giveaway that Trinitarians know they cannot support their doctrine. The simple deflection tactic is only they get to ask questions.

For a given proposition, there are likely to be pro’s and con’s. Let’s say, putting fluoride in the drinking water? Just because there are SOME con’s does not mean the proposition is bad. It’s about the net, all things considered, what is overall better for human health?

The same with most things. I go back to post #148. Why is believing 3=1 important from a Scriptural perspective? It’s telling that trinitarians don’t answer this question.
LOL x100 friend

Oh dear Wrangler, your questions and @Ritajanice have been answered BEFORE there ever was a Adam & Eve, in the Word that was God.

Genesis - Genesis - Genesis
Us Our Our
Abraham Isaac Jacob
Gospel Gospel Gospel
FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT
TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH
 
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Is that why you are a man-hater?

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St. SteVen

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St. SteVen said:
Anyone who can testify is a person.
Yes.i testified against my ex in court...
Exactly.
You couldn't do that unless you were a person.
The same is true of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God.
Therefore the Holy Spirit is a person.

Romans 8:16 NIV
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.

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For a given proposition, there are likely to be pro’s and con’s. Let’s say, putting fluoride in the drinking water? Just because there are SOME con’s does not mean the proposition is bad. It’s about the net, all things considered, what is overall better for human health?
Just read a big policy issue for RFK Jr; vaccines and autism. The rate of autism is something like 100x higher than a generation ago. Something is causing that.
 
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The Holy Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God.
Therefore the Holy Spirit is a person.

Romans 8:16 NIV
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
God the Father is a person.
Jesus is a person.
The Holy Spirit is a person.

God in three persons.

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I have run into people that reduce the Trinity to a duo.
The Holy Spirit not being a God but rather Yahweh’s spirit.
Not being into the duo thing although God's Spirit or YHWH is Holy. Scripture does not separate God's own Spirit from it being Holy. They ae one in the same, as He is Spirit

And if you do not want to believe that the Holy Spirit is the same Spirit of YHWH, then where in scripture does it speak to another of God's Spirit, if not Holy, especially in the NT?
 

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Prove it then David instead of just voicing your opinion?

David who testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God, explain what that means?

Once again David posting scripture, yet no answer to my Spirit questions.

How do you know Jesus David..just by reading a Bible..where else must we know of him David?

I ask again why must we be Born Of The Spirit other than being set free from eternal damnation?

Your spirit cant deceive my spirit David as it’s trying to do,..you are also trying to deceive others also, because they don’t believe in the trinity as you do.

Whose power keeps us in the knowledge of the truth..who speaks Gods truth out of our mouth,a dead spirit or a Living Spirit..

If anyone is deceived it may well be you my friend...
You are not speaking God's Truth for God's Truth is His Word which you deny - along with @Wrangler

You and @Wrangler are under the deception of jehovah witness false doctrine

The Holy Spirit bears Witness to the TRUTH which is the LORD Jesus Christ.

By your words you have denied Christ = many times on here.

Your own statements prove that you are under the spirit of error.
I wasn’t Born Again of the gospel neither did I hear it, I was Born Of The Spirit.by = supernatural divine heart revelation
and The gospel did not birth my spirit
These are anti-christ statements and never came from the Holy Spirit
 
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St. SteVen said:
Therefore the Holy Spirit is a person.
Not sure..does the word say he is a person?
Certainly.
Something that is not a person is referred to as "it".
Someone that is a person is referred to as he or she, him or her, himself or herself.
You know that the Advocate is the Holy Spirit, correct?

Romans 8:16 NIV
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.

  • John 14:26
    But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name,
    will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

  • John 14:17
    the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him,
    because it neither sees him nor knows him.
    But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

  • John 15:26
    “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—
    the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me.

  • John 16:7
    But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away.
    Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go,
    I will send him to you.

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God IS Sprit.
God IS Omnipotent.
God IS Omnipresent.
God IS Omniscience.

God APPEARING AS an angel, a human man, a star, a bush, a dove… does NOT MAKE God a:
Created angel, human man, a star, a bush, a dove!


God called: Father, Son, Man, Jew, King, Lord, LORD, Yahweh, Jehovah, Jesus, (whatever)…
Does NOT MAKE God any LESS HE who IS Eternal Supreme Power, Everywhere, All knowing, without Beginning or Ending.

If one (as some do desperately try) to understand Spiritual things with their Carnal Mind (and foolishly speak from their Carnal Minds Understanding regarding SPIRITUAL Things)… Expect a Disagreement From Those SET Apart / Sanctified “IN” Christ.

Glory to God,
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You are not speaking God's Truth for God's Truth is His Word which you deny - along with @Wrangler

You and @Wrangler are under the deception of jehovah witness false doctrine

The Holy Spirit bears Witness to the TRUTH which is the LORD Jesus Christ.
Can you also show me these exact words in scripture @David in NJ ?

So tell me where in us does he bear/ witness of this truth?

Or once again are you going to evade my question?
You need more than reading and posting scripture David!
By your words you have denied Christ = many times on here.
Liar.i have denied that Jesus is not fully God.
Your own statements prove that you are under the spirit of error.
In your opinion David.
These are anti-christ statements and never came from the Holy Spirit
Once again David no scripture to back up what we have posted is not Gods truth,

Once again a diversion from answering any of my Spirit questions.

If I’m under the spirit of error what are you under then if you fail to answer Spirit questions?

I never said that I may be in error , unfortunately you think that you are the only one who thinks they are in Gods truth.,
 

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Not being into the duo thing although God's Spirit or YHWH is Holy. Scripture does not separate God's own Spirit from it being Holy. They ae one in the same, as He is Spirit

And if you do not want to believe that the Holy Spirit is the same Spirit of YHWH, then where in scripture does it speak to another of God's Spirit, if not Holy, especially in the NT?
The Holy Spirit is a God.
And Yahweh has a spirit and it holy.
And the confusion factor caused by not divulging the name of the Holy Spirit.
Defining the Deity with loose terms….spirits….Gods…persons.
Using words to define something that cannot be defined or comprehended. It is best to refer the 3 members of the Trinity as Gods and leave it at that…..if you do not the conversation is like a dog chasing his tail.
 
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