CLEAR as DAY
Luke 23:44
Now it was about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.
Then the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was torn in two.
And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ”
Having said this, He breathed His last.
Yep, clear as day…..he “breathed” his last breath before dying and offering his life for ours.
What did King David say? ‘Thoughts perish at death’…his son Solomon said the same thing. (Eccl 9:5, 10) ….there is NO conscious part of humans that exits the body at death. Christ was in his tomb for three days, just as he said he would be. He didn’t go anywhere until his God raised him from the dead.
His “spirit” was his breath, which is what any Jew would have assumed on hearing his words. Your whole premise is based on the teachings of the Catholic church……whose doctrines were formed long after the death of Christ and his apostles. These are the “weeds” of Jesus’ parable. If you think that counterfeit organization of pathological liars is actually Christianity, then just wait and see what God will do to her and all who swallow her God dishonoring lies. The “weeds” did what weeds always do…the overtake the whole field. The “wheat” are a minority, not a majority. (Matt 7:13-14)
The Word that was God came to earth in the body of a man called JESUS
Again, if you read John 1:1 in Greek, it does not say that “the Word was God”….it says that “the Word was with God” (“ho theos” which is Yahweh) and that “the Word was a god” (theos) a word used for any being who came under Yahweh’s divine authorization….even human judges in Israel were called “gods” (theos) by Yahweh himself. (John 10:31-36)…Look it up.
It was “the Word” identified as “theos” who became flesh”.…not “ho theos”.
An immortal God cannot die and nowhere does it say that Jesus was a God/man. He was not 200%…. He had to be 100% mortal to pay the price of our redemption. Do you understand the mechanics of redemption as Jews understood it?
The Eternal Word now in a human body whereby only His physical body is dying.
The son of God was created “in the beginning“….since God had no beginning (the meaning of the word “eternal”) Jesus did, as he says in Revelation 3:14…
”To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God”….(NASB)
The son is “the beginning of God’s creation”, and the only thing that fights with all the scriptures that prove the trinity is false, is the belief itself, which is not found in a single direct statement by either God or his son in the whole Bible.
Even the Catholic church, who invented this travesty, admits that it’s not scriptural.
You cannot kill God, you cannot kill the Immortal Word that was God in the Beginning.
If Jesus didn’t die, then the redemption is a failure…..he had to pay back what Adam lost….perfect sinless life to balance the scales of God’s perfect justice.
Through this ransom, we then can look forward to going back to God’s original purpose for the human race.
What was that David? Can you tell me? It seems as though you have difficulty answering my questions and there is a lot of smoke screening to hide that fact. I have asked you many but you have not answered them.
After the Word left the dead body on the Cross, HE then went to preach the Gospel to the spirits of the fallen angels that were bound deep in the earth.
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah,
Jesus said he would be in his tomb for three days…..show me where in that scripture he went there and did that before Yahweh resurrected him three days after his death….?
He was not made alive for three days, after which he showed himself to his apostles and at some undetermined time went and delivered a judgment message to the demons in their figurative prison. (Tartarus)
What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before?
Question @Aunty Jane - Where was Jesus BEFORE He came to earth to be Jesus???
He has always been “the only begotten son of God”….from “the beginning”…..someone who is “begotten” needs a ‘begetter’ who existed before them and caused their existence. Since God has millions of other “sons”….what made the pre-human Jesus a unique son? (Monogenes) He was the first and only direct creation of his God and Father….all other creation came into existence “through” the son (Col 1:15-17; John 1:2-3)…..its called agency. This is what the Bible teaches.
