THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[RLT63]

Predicable

2Co 13:5 - Examine yourselves, whether ye bein the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

 

[IronMaiden]

Be careful Brother,

There are THREE that are Echad/One

The Hebrew word 'echad' is used to speak of a plurality that acts as a single Unit/One.

Modalism is the belief that GOD changes from Father to Son to Holy Spirit which is contrary to the Truth

changes?! God never changes.

John 1:1-5 (NKJV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

 

[face2face]

2Co 13:5 - Examine yourselves, whether ye bein the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

After the original Gospel had been given those with reprobate minds eventually turned the Godhead into a lie. Imagine being responsible for that? The innocent are deceived by a man made formula.

F2F

 

[RLT63]

After the original Gospel had been given those with reprobate minds eventually turned the Godhead into a lie. Imagine being responsible for that? The innocent are deceived by a man made formula.

F2F

You are deceived by not knowing who Jesus is. I pray that you are saved despite your error

 

[David in NJ]

After the original Gospel had been given those with reprobate minds eventually turned the Godhead into a lie. Imagine being responsible for that? The innocent are deceived by a man made formula.

F2F

So you admit to believing a lie from a false gospel.

Get rid of that NWT - but FAST

 

[face2face]

So you admit to believing a lie from a false gospel.

Get rid of that NWT - but FAST

I don't use the NWT David...you should pay more attention

 

[RLT63]

After the original Gospel had been given those with reprobate minds eventually turned the Godhead into a lie. Imagine being responsible for that? The innocent are deceived by a man made formula.

F2F

What denomination do you belong to?

 

[face2face]

You are deceived by not knowing who Jesus is. I pray that you are saved despite your error

When you come out of the dark hole and back into the light I'll be here ready to explain those difficult passages for you.

 

[David in NJ]

I don't use the NWT David...you should pay more attention

Well you certainly are one or more of the following:
a.) using a false gospel
b.) Not believing the TRUTH of Genesis thru OT Prophets, Gospel, Apostles and Revelation
c.) You believe in the LORD Jesus Christ but are resisting the Holy Spirit

 

[RLT63]

When you come out of the dark hole and back into the light I'll be here ready to explain those difficult passages for you.

They're not difficult to me, I don't need your explanation

 

[St. SteVen]

Looks like the Trinitarians finally showed up. - LOL

This topic has been strange.
Like arguing for 60 pages with people who claim that the sky isn't blue. Say what?

I knew there were a few fringe wackos that didn't believe in the Trinity.
But this has been an eye-opener. Haven't had to defend the Trinity for decades.
And that was with atheists.

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[David in NJ]

They're not difficult to me, I don't need your explanation

When anyone relies on their own intellect they stumble over the simplicity that is in the Gospel, in Christ, in the Truth.

Furthermore, it is God who calls us and gives us the understanding thru faith in the Word.

Hebrews 11:3 - "By faith we understand...."

Many try to understand without applying the faith, the faith which God requires of us.

 

[RLT63]

When you come out of the dark hole and back into the light I'll be here ready to explain those difficult passages for you.

Which seminary did you graduate from? What are your qualifications to be teaching?
Since I know you'll ask, I graduated from Andersonville Theological Seminary

 

[RLT63]

This topic has been strange.
Like arguing for 60 pages with people who claim that the sky isn't blue. Say what?

I knew there were a few fringe wackos that didn't believe in the Trinity.
But this has been an eye-opener. Haven't had to defend the Trinity for decades.
And that was with atheists.

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It was like this when I first joined. Someone told me "Welcome to Cultianity Board "

 

[face2face]

This topic has been strange.
Like arguing for 60 pages with people who claim that the sky isn't blue. Say what?

I knew there were a few fringe wackos that didn't believe in the Trinity.
But this has been an eye-opener. Haven't had to defend the Trinity for decades.
And that was with atheists.

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The defense of it is evident.

However, as you know, your contribution has been minimal at best, and when challenged, you seldom, if ever, offer a rebuttal.

Although this seems to be your approach in all discussions

F2F

 

[St. SteVen]

It was like this when I first joined. Someone told me "Welcome to Cultianity Board "

Yes. - LOL
And there's a lot of finger pointing from every direction.
As I have maintained...

It's easy to identify a religious cult. They attend the church across the street from your church.
And they feel the same way about you. Where does that get us?

[

 

[Aunty Jane]

Well even in your response here you confer that the Word is the Lord even though you try to evade

As you said in TRUTH, no sin and no human(all are contaminated with sin) can approach the FATHER.

THREE Blessings for you to embrace in your heart of God's love for you so that you may have HOPE of GLORY

The hope I have is much more in line with what God purposed when he put human beings here on this carefully prepared planet “in the beginning”….what was it “the beginning” of? What is our purpose here?
I have a wonderful hope that is a restoration of all that was taken away by Adam’s sin….Jesus death allows us to regain all that we lost.....so what did we lose?

I’m not going heaven because that is the privilege of “the chosen ones”…the “saints” who are chosen by God, not themselves, for that role in heaven as “joint heirs with Christ”. These alone will be “kings and priests“ in God’s kingdom (Rev 20:6) so that these ones will rule over redeemed mankind with Jesus and be the very best rulers we could ever have. I am more than happy to be one of their subjects, but I find those in Christendom who want nothing less than a heavenly resurrection…..for them it will come as a great disappointment. They will offer their excuses to the appointed judge, but he will have already judged them as worthy of life as citizens of his Kingdom….or not. (Matt 7:21-23)

#1 - Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist.
And there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we exist.

Again you conflate the two titles as if they mean the same thing…I assure you, they do not.
Only Yahweh is the Father (God) and if Jesus had come claiming to be God incarnate, the Jews would have done worse to him than by simply claiming to be “the son of God”. (John 10:31-36)

They accused him of blasphemy just claiming to be God’s son. They did not accuse him of being God because he never said he was...not once.

#2 - But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you.
Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

#3- the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints.
To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles:
which is Christ in you, the hope of Glory.


The FATHER's Will is for CHRIST to be in you = the Hope of Glory = DON'T MISS OUT

I do not have “the hope of glory”....that is reserved for the “saints”.....I am not one of the chosen ones....and I am more than happy to serve my God on earth as part of his original plan for this planet.....does your hope involve the earth David....? Did he go to all this trouble just to create a training ground for heaven?

What is the meaning of the Lord’s Prayer?....”thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven” is when “the Kingdom comes”.....How does the Kingdom “come”?

 

[RLT63]

Yes. - LOL
And there's a lot of finger pointing from every direction.
As I have maintained...

It's easy to identify a religious cult. They attend the church across the street from your church.
And they feel the same way about you. Where does that get us?

[

Someone is claiming that he is correct based on the fact that we don't argue with him enough.
I just let the posts speak for themselves

 

[David in NJ]

Yes. - LOL
And there's a lot of finger pointing from every direction.
As I have maintained...

It's easy to identify a religious cult. They attend the church across the street from your church.
And they feel the same way about you. Where does that get us?

[

So THAT'S the church you belong to!!!!

I KNEW IT, I just knew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[David in NJ]

The hope I have is much more in line with what God purposed when he put human beings here on this carefully prepared planet “in the beginning”….what was it “the beginning” of? What is our purpose here?
I have a wonderful hope that is a restoration of all that was taken away by Adam’s sin….Jesus death allows us to regain all that we lost.....so what did we lose?

I’m not going heaven because that is the privilege of “the chosen ones”…the “saints” who are chosen by God, not themselves, for that role in heaven as “joint heirs with Christ”. These alone will be “kings and priests“ in God’s kingdom (Rev 20:6) so that these ones will rule over redeemed mankind with Jesus and the very best rulers we could ever have. I am more than happy to be one of their subjects, but I find those in Christendom who want nothing less than a heavenly resurrection…..for them it will come as a great disappointment. They will offer their excuses to the appointed judge, but he will have already judged them as worthy of life as citizens of his Kingdom….or not. (Matt 7:21-23)

Again you conflate the two titles as if they mean the same thing…I assure you, they do not.
Only Yahweh is the Father (God) and if Jesus had come claiming to be God incarnate, the Jews would have done worse to him than by simply claiming to be “the son of God”. (John 10:31-36)

They accused him of blasphemy just claiming to be God’s son. They did not accuse him of being God because he never said he was...not once.

I do not have “the hope of glory”....that is reserved for the “saints”.....I am not one of the chosen ones....and I am more than happy to serve my God on earth as part of his original plan for this planet.....does your hope involve the earth David....? Did he go to all this trouble just to create a training ground for heaven?

What is the meaning of the Lord’s Prayer?....”thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven” is when “the Kingdom comes”.....How does the Kingdom “come”?

THANK YOU for your openness and honesty along with @Ritajanice

i was raised RCC and then God called me out of the Harlot and chose me to belong to Him.
So the FATHER, of His Good Pleasure, brought me to Christ.

When HE brought me to Christ i was overwhelmed of my sin and shame as His Word reveled the TRUTH of His Holiness and Purity.
But HE did not leave me like that, for HE poured out His Grace and covered all my sins.
GREAT JOY filled me to overflowing as HE placed me in Christ.

A few months later the Lord Baptized me in the Holy Spirit, which again left me on the floor because of the POWER that was flowing down from Heaven Above.

This LOVE of God in His Holy Spirit is , is, i cannot express it in human words, other then being FILLED with Peace and Great JOY.
HE gave me great desire to know Christ and to read and FEED and be Nourished in the Holy Scriptures.
Reading and praying and reading and praying in my room, on my knees before my Savior.

That was 40 years ago and as i get older i long for the day HE takes me Home to SEE Him who died for me on that Tree on Calvary.
By the Precious Blood of Christ and His Holy Spirit i am His saint, His elect, His little stone in His Temple of Radiant Glory.
No one ever imagined that God would save a sinner as David, but HE did - HalleluYAH

In His Great Mercy HE brought to me a wife, who i was praying for though i did not know her previously until the day we met.
My wife received Adonai Yeshua HaMashiach, her MESSIAH and Alison became a FULFILLED Jew under the Brit Chadashah.
Love the Lord God with all your heart mind soul and strength for there is no other Way then the LORD Jesus Christ.

No one comes to the FATHER but thru JESUS.

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true,
and we are in Him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. ”
1 John 5:20 KJV