THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[Scott Downey]

More ponderings...

1 John 5:11
And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.

1 John 5:13
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

1 John 5:20
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

 

[amigo de christo]

Posting scripture quotes is meaningless...only the Living Holy Spirit can show me my error...not by you trying to fear monger,, by posting scriptures ,like I’ve already explained ,we must be reborn in our spirit..you imo, have no knowledge of spiritual matters,all you ever do is post reams and reams of scripture quotes, that you actually think is associated with the trinity, no more no less, I’ve have discernment, I can see many of your scripture quotes are aimed at me at times,ie, false prophets, etc...they bounce off because they come from you and only you..you interpret them to mean what you believe them to mean, like I said, I see no spiritual words ever coming out of your mouth, just religion.and scripture quotes..

Nowhere in scripture does God say that Jesus is God.,Jesus was Born a man and his mother was Mary..

Flesh and blood his name was Jesus, no scripture to support that Jesus was Born a spirit, what a ridiculous statement....he was born a man, he was God’s Son ,just as the word says.,.

Why don’t you try and give some testimony on how Jesus was sent by God to deliver the good news, it would make a nice change from your usual routine of posting bible quotes at random...that don’t even associate with the topics in hand most of the time..I can see you hide behind them and use them as a weapon a lot of the time..which certainly don’t glorify God...also I advise you to look to God Alone, he hates the fact that some follow men and their teaching, worshipping them as though they are God...I'm warning you, because I’ve done the same...I pray that God shows you what he showed me..by idolising and worshipping man’s teaching ...

fear mongering . gee it seems me and this sister you just wrote this too
were just talking about this very thing . someone sees reminders and when they see them reminders
it causes them fear . rather odd me and this other sister were just talking about that . BOY that did not take long to manfest
and be confirmed .

 

[ElieG12]

No, as Christ is the one come down from Heaven, sent by the Father.
The Father remained in Heaven, and after Christ finished His work and was resurrected, Christ went back to the glory He had with the Father, before the world existed. They each have their own roles.

Nice, you got it right. Then why you don't believe the whole thing:

John 1:14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth. (...) 18 No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him.

 

[Ritajanice]

More ponderings...

1 John 5:11
And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.

1 John 5:13
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

1 John 5:20
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

Yes God gave us eternal life.the Living Holy Spirit,,.the scriptures do not, they confirm what the Spirit testifies to our spirit.

 

[Wrangler]

1 John 5:11
And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.

The juxtaposition is proof text and it is ubiquitous. There are 2 people in this verse. God and his son. If they were the same person, language would not be used to indicate they are 2.

And again, notice how the the Holy Spirit gets dissed?

 

[amigo de christo]

Christ had a part.

I think his death was the most important part..

you sure about that . for if Christ is not risen ye are still dead in your sins .
IT ALL WAS EQUALLY IMPORTANT . not a word one of that bible should have ever once been twisted and or omitted of men .
I WONT HEED A WORD OUTTA THEY LIPS who do so . you be blessed now .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes God gave us eternal life.the Living Holy Spirit,,.the scriptures do not, they confirm what the Spirit testifies to our spirit.

or in some peoples case their spirit contradicts scriptures and confirms what they want to beleive is truth .

 

[Scott Downey]

One body, One Spirit, One Lord, One faith One baptism, One God, a unity of men and God and a tri-unity of God.
All these things are joined as One, that is the emphasis here, even though separate.

Ephesians 4

I, therefore, the prisoner [a]of the Lord, [b]beseech you to walk worthy of the calling with which you were called, 2 with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love, 3 endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in [c]you all.

Christ Descended from the Father, went to hell (Hades) and then ascended back to the Father so that Christ filled ALL Things and would have the preeminence. He made quite the journey.

Spiritual Gifts​

7 But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift. 8 Therefore He says:

“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”
9 (Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also [d]first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the [e]edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

 

[Scott Downey]

or in some peoples case their spirit contradicts scriptures and confirms what they want to beleive is truth .

Depends what spirit they are listening to...

 

[amigo de christo]

Depends what spirit they are listening to...

Exactly . it is why i didnt capitilize that spirit .
THE HOLY SPIRIT would not deny the HOLY SCRIPTURES , IT INSPIRED unto men long , long ago .
But it sure seems many like to heed spirits they BELIEVE BE OF THE SPIRIT and yet
them voices SURE SEEM to downplay the importance of scripture , even twisting and omitting certain scrips .
SOMEONE has not been sleeping Scott .
THE DEVIL aint been hid in a cave my friend . HIMS TAKEN A TON of christendom captive now .
As has his men . expect not one utterance of an apology from me for even saying this
FOR TRUE IT IS . we got a mega problem in the house friend .

 

[Ritajanice]

Or they may not even be Born Again.

or in some peoples case their spirit contradicts scriptures and confirms what they want to beleive is truth .

I’d like you to show me my contradiction of scripture?

You need to back up your sly accusation?

That you not only accuse me of, others to on this forum ,poor Epi is one under your wrath.

 

[Ritajanice]

THE HOLY SPIRIT would not deny the HOLY SCRIPTURES

The Holy Spirit is not the scriptures...the scriptures confirm Gods truth..

 

[amigo de christo]

Adam was perfect at one time

After the fall. Yes. We could not see him, But God also can take the form of a man, as the angel of God did with Abraham and others.

Adam was indeed made perfect . As far as HIM seeing GOD in that state , maybe he could , but
I doubt HE did . Notice it said THAT adam heard THE VOICE OF GOD in the garden .
NOW i do understand why you might think it is possible for adam to have SEEN GOD before HIS fall .
BUT I doubt HE EVER DID SEE HIM IN FULL GLORY .
NOT LIKE THE ANGELS DID . NOT LIKE LUCIFER HAD and YET STILL REBELLED and HAS NO HOPE .
HE SEEN GOD and REBELLED AGAINST HIM having SEEN HIM FACE TO FACE .
Now of course i am speculating things . But so may you be . SEE neither of us knows HOW ADAM saw
GOD before his fall . BUT , BUT WE DO KNOW THIS .
INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST and will merge all antichrists to be as one .
Okay maybe some dont realize that YET .
SO let me back the train up . WHILE THIS IS VERY TRUE what i wrote concerning interfaith
its very clear many cannot see this . NOT YET . OH BUT THEY WILL . THE LIE IS ALREADY PRESENTED amongst it .
THE LIE is not to convince the false religoins , THEY ALREADY BUY IT
IT IS TO CONVINCE CHRISTENDOM itself . AND THEY ALL GONNA MERGE AS ONE . well the lambs wont but all else will .

 

[amigo de christo]

Or they may not even be Born Again.

I’d like you to show me my contradiction of scripture?

You need to back up your sly accusation?

Not an accusation . it was a reminder to all that not all who claim tobe of CHRIST are of CHRIST .
never said you or anyone names . But if convicted you are , PRAY about it .
Now if you want me to answer your questions . THEN i need you to answer
mine that i have kept repeatedly asking ya .
WHY did you , dear rita , GO after me for reminding all of the dire need to be in the bible and reading it .
NOW I have long told ya , WE MUST BE BORN of the SPIRIT
i have agreed with you about THE NEED to be born again .
BUT You have yet to agree with And rather kinda accuse , gently accuse , ME
for my dire reminders of THE DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . now why is that .
You answer why YOU DID THIS . I KNOW we are BORN of the SPIRIT
I dont aruge with your statments about that . WHAT WORRIES ME IS
you dont seem to realize that many can lip that same line and yet STILL DO NOT KNOW HIM .
again you might think i accuse you . BUt what i am saying to you
NOW is , YOU HAVE ME VERY WORRIED and VERY CONCEREND SISTER . YOU NEED to start answering
some questions . WHY o WHY did you go after me for SIMPLY REMIDING the believers of THE DIRE NEED
to be in that bible and leraning it

 

[St. SteVen]

No, I go by the testimony of the Holy Spirit..not yours or wrangler.

I'm just giving you a hard time. - LOL

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[Ritajanice]

Not an accusation . it was a reminder to all that not all who claim tobe of CHRIST are of CHRIST .
never said you or anyone names . But if convicted you are , PRAY about it .
Now if you want me to answer your questions . THEN i need you to answer
mine that i have kept repeatedly asking ya .
WHY did you , dear rita , GO after me for reminding all of the dire need to be in the bible and reading it .
NOW I have long told ya , WE MUST BE BORN of the SPIRIT
i have agreed with you about THE NEED to be born again .
BUT You have yet to agree with And rather kinda accuse , gently accuse , ME
for my dire reminders of THE DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . now why is that .
You answer why YOU DID THIS . I KNOW we are BORN of the SPIRIT
I dont aruge with your statments about that . WHAT WORRIES ME IS
you dont seem to realize that many can lip that same line and yet STILL DO NOT KNOW HIM .
again you might think i accuse you . BUt what i am saying to you
NOW is , YOU HAVE ME VERY WORRIED and VERY CONCEREND SISTER . YOU NEED to start answering
some questions . WHY o WHY did you go after me for SIMPLY REMIDING the believers of THE DIRE NEED
to be in that bible and leraning it

 

[amigo de christo]

The Holy Spirit is not the scriptures...the scriptures confirm Gods truth..

auto pilated responses . I NEVER SAID they were rita .
NOW lets answer the question . WHY O WHY did you GO after me for simply REMINDING ALL of the DIRE
NEED to be reading and learning the scriptures . YOU gonna have to answer that rita . I THINK I KNOW
but you need to go ahead and let us know . What is it that is causing you fear .
WHY would you accuse Even marvelous , WHO JUST BRINGS SCRIPS , OF FEAR MONGERING .
YOU BRING SCRIPS , we dont accuse you of fear mongering . ME THINKS you fear things in that bible
that you cannot have peace anymore when you read it for you . SOMETHING in it reminds you
of something you just dont want to hear anymore . BUT if i be wrong , YOU TELL ME sister .
SO lets answer the question . WHY did you come after me FOR reminding the church TO BE READING and learning the scrips .

 

[amigo de christo]

That fear can be broken off you rita. Beleive me it can .

 

[Ritajanice]

auto pilated responses . I NEVER SAID they were rita .
NOW lets answer the question . WHY O WHY did you GO after me for simply REMINDING ALL of the DIRE
NEED to be reading and learning the scriptures . YOU gonna have to answer that rita . I THINK I KNOW
but you need to go ahead and let us know . What is it that is causing you fear .
WHY would you accuse Even marvelous , WHO JUST BRINGS SCRIPS , OF FEAR MONGERING .
YOU BRING SCRIPS , we dont accuse you of fear mongering . ME THINKS you fear things in that bible
that you cannot have peace anymore when you read it for you . SOMETHING in it reminds you
of something you just dont want to hear anymore . BUT if i be wrong , YOU TELL ME sister .
SO lets answer the question . WHY did you come after me FOR reminding the church TO BE READING

 

[amigo de christo]

Rita , being i am not a mind reader or ever claimed to be one . You gonna have to answer
the question rather than just bringing my own reminders back to me without an answer .
YOU THINK i am the enemy , BUT I KNOW something . I can HELP YOU rita . Answer the question sister .