THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

[Taken]

Jesus was not God.

That makes not an ounce of sense.

Not God that’s for sure.my opinion.

Sorry none of that says Jesus is God.

Before Jesus came INTO the world IN a body God Prepared….

Jesus was IN Gods Mouth…called a “holy thing”….and revealed IS called the Word of God….And Gods Word came forth out from God….
(IS not your word YOU…?)
Gods Word IS God…

Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Luke 1:
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, (Mary) The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

John 16:
[27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Wrangler]

NO . cause you aint GOD .

See Circular Reasoning.

1. Jesus said X, proving he is God.
2. I said X but that proves nothing.
3. He’s God. You’re not.

 

[Ritajanice]

Before Jesus came INTO the world IN a body God Prepared….

Jesus was IN Gods Mouth…called a “holy thing”….and revealed IS called the Word of God….And Gods Word came forth out from God….
(IS not your word YOU…?)
Gods Word IS God…

Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Yes, that means the Holy Spirit, he’s Gods Living Witness.nothing there that Jesus is God.

Luke 1:
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, (Mary) The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Yes, Jesus was the Son Of God...he wasn’t God.

John 16:
[27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

Glory to God,
Taken

That’s your own understanding of scripture..which I disagree with...none of it says Jesus was God.

With respect, your posts make no sense to me, you can’t make me see what you see, so I should stop trying if I were you...

 

[David in NJ]

See Circular Reasoning.

1. Jesus said X, proving he is God.
2. I said X but that proves nothing.
3. He’s God. You’re not.

Here is the Circular Reasoning that God wants you to know = Romans 8:9

Now you are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you;
but if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him.

 

[David in NJ]

That’s your own understanding of scripture..which I disagree with...none of it says Jesus was God.

With respect, your posts make no sense to me, you can’t make me see what you see, so I should stop trying if I were you...

but if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him.

3 Spirits are spoken of in Romans 8:9

 

[Taken]

Let me ask you this then...How do you explain duality of natures? Can you provide a Scriptural definition to this conundrum?

F2F

Quite simply…God is ALL POWERFUL…

He CAN…HAS…DID…appear in the LIKENESS “AS” a human in ancient Days….and in historical Days….and SHALL AGAIN in the Last days….

Do you not Know that? Or Know why?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Wrangler]

you honestly believe I have nothing of value to say to you

It’s HOW you say it. It’s not that I have attention deficit, it’s that you pontificate beyond reason - way beyond reason.

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Something is seriously wrong when you have to write MUCH longer posts than the average bear. Not sure why you feel entitled to so much of people’s time, including my time, but I am under no obligation to read more than as little as I choose.

You must be aware of this general critic of JW evangelism.

FYI. Normally, I don’t read long posts. It’s not personal. Consider this site a forum for a 30-second commercial. Stop considering each post a primer for War and Peace. LOL.

 

[face2face]

Quite simply…God is ALL POWERFUL…

He CAN…HAS…DID…appear in the LIKENESS “AS” a human in ancient Days….and in historical Days….and SHALL AGAIN in the Last days….

Do you not Know that? Or Know why?

Glory to God,
Taken

Okay so you don't know, and are happy with an unintelligable mystery also.

F2F

 

[Wrangler]

Before Jesus came INTO the world IN a body God Prepared….

This applies to us all. Does to make us God.

 

[David in NJ]

Jesus is not a spirit, the Holy Spirit testified to my spirit that Jesus was the Son Of God and was crucified on the cross...the Holy Spirit did not testify to my spirit that Jesus is a spirit..no he did not.

God is a Spirit..Jesus was the Son Of God, he was not God..no he was not...best you stop forcing me to believe as you do Brother...you can’t force people to see what you see my friend..I’m not forcing my belief onto you am I.not good my friend.

Do you understand that you are denying the Truth by denying that Christ is a Spirit and of the SAME Spirit of God???
THREE Spirits are mentioned in this one verse.

Now you are not in flesh but in Spirit(1), if indeed the Spirit of God(2) dwells in you;
but if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ(3), he is not of Him.


Please take time to read scripture again and again with prayer again and again and then wait for the understanding.

TRUTH declares this - Hebrews 11:3 = "By faith we understand...."

 

[face2face]

Did you mean that some believe that Jesus had two natures?

It’s not biblical either is it?

Yes, all Trinitarians must believe Jesus had Divine Nature (Eternal) and Sins Flesh (Dominion of death) simultaneously for Jesus to be God.

Otherwise Jesus is flesh and blood like you and I and not God.

F2F

Correction, many T believers state that Jesus had whats called clean flesh meaning he did not inherit fallen nature from his mum.

 

[Ritajanice]

Do you understand that you are denying the Truth by denying that Christ is a Spirit and of the SAME Spirit of God???
THREE Spirits are mentioned in this one verse.

Now you are not in flesh but in Spirit(1), if indeed the Spirit of God(2) dwells in you;
but if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ(3), he is not of Him.


Please take time to read scripture again and again with prayer again and again and then wait for the understanding.

TRUTH declares this - Hebrews 11:3 = "By faith we understand...."

Goodbye David..I won’t stand for you forcing what you believe onto me...

 

[Taken]

Yes, that means the Holy Spirit, he’s Gods Living Witness.nothing there that Jesus is God.

Yes, Jesus was the Son Of God...he wasn’t God.

That’s your own understanding of scripture..which I disagree with...none of it says Jesus was God.

With respect, your posts make no sense to me, you can’t make me see what you see, so I should stop trying if I were you...

You are not me. And I am not surprised when people who reject Jesus IS God have difficulty trusting the knowledge in scripture because it makes no mindful sense to them.

John 10:
[30] I and my Father are one.

Your spiritual thought should be….the Father (and speaker; Jesus) are ONE GOD.

Isa 48:
[12] Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

Why oh why did the Jews want to KILL Jesus?
They tell you…

John 10:
[33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.



Glory to God,
Taken

 

[David in NJ]

Goodbye David..I won’t stand for you forcing what you believe onto me...

You are respected , loved and never being forced.

i am asking you a question to see if you are aware of your own thought process in Light of Scripture.

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

 

[Ritajanice]

You are not me.

I never said I was you.

And I am not surprised when people who reject Jesus IS God have difficulty trusting the knowledge in scripture because it makes no mindful sense to them.

John 10:
[30] I and my Father are one.

Your spiritual thought should be….the Father (and speaker; Jesus) are ONE GOD.

Isa 48:
[12] Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

Why oh why did the Jews want to KILL Jesus?
They tell you…

John 10:
[33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.



Glory to God.

None of that scripture you post says that Jesus was God..

 

[Taken]

Yes, all Trinitarians must believe Jesus had Divine Nature (Eternal) and Sins Flesh (Dominion of death) simultaneously for Jesus to be God.

Otherwise Jesus is flesh and blood like you and I and not God.

F2F

Correction, many T believers state that Jesus had whats called clean flesh meaning he did not inherit fallen nature from his mum.

Jesus was not A human….Jesus did not have a SIN nature……any more than than men who change their outer appearance to LOOK “AS”a Female….on the inside gained a wider pelvis, uterus, Fallopian tube, milk glands and Ovaries.

 

[Ritajanice]

You are respected , loved and never being forced.

i am asking you a question to see if you are aware of your own thought process in Light of Scripture.

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

I am quite aware that Jesus is not God..and yes his word is truth only not your truth.

 

[Ritajanice]

Jesus was not A human….Jesus did not have a SIN nature…

Jesus chose not to sin, he could have quite easily have sinned if he chose to , he didn’t choose to ,he stayed in perfect harmony with the will of his Father....that’s how committed he was to serving his Father.my opinion.

…any more than than men who change their outer appearance to LOOK “AS”a Female….on the inside gained a wider pelvis, uterus, Fallopian tube, milk glands and Ovaries.

Jesus was a human he was born to a woman, makes him human....when he was baptised in the Spirit then he received his anointing to go and teach the good news.he was the Son Of God, he was not God,my opinion.

 

[Taken]

I never said I was you.



None of that scripture you post says that Jesus was God..

1 John 5:
[20] And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

I am “IN CHRIST”….the true God…..but do not speak for you who rejects Scripture that does not appear in your words.

Prayers for you to come to the truth.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[David in NJ]

I am quite aware that Jesus is not God..and yes his word is truth only not your truth.

i NEVER spoke of "my truth"

All i gave to you, in love, are the scriptures of Truth = Truth speaks for Itself

SHALOM