tailgator
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Benjamin netanyahu is who apostate Israel has chosen instead of Christ.
You say they chose Christ.They reject Christ and have already chosen Benjamin netanyahu.
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Benjamin netanyahu is who apostate Israel has chosen instead of Christ.
You say they chose Christ.They reject Christ and have already chosen Benjamin netanyahu.
tailgator
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You still think Christ and the saints will.be given Rome to reign in?
Why not Jerusalem?
You still have not answered how Benjamin Netanyahu's name totals 666.
Nor do the Jews consider Benjamin Netanyahu as the messiah.
First of all I never say that the saints will be given Rome to reign in.
When Jesus returns with His saints , the saints will rule all over the world, not one specific place.
tailgator
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Jews don't consider Jesus as Messiah.
The people in Israel have chosen Benjamin netanyahu.Not Jesus
2 percent of the people in Israel choose Jesus.
Somewhere around 144,000.
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tailgator
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Not according to the word of God.
Try paying attention to the word of God for just a moment.
The kingdom being discussed here is not the world.It is the kingdom.where the fourth beast is located.
The kingdom will be consumed and then given to the saints of God.
You said this kingdom is Rome .
I'm asking why you believe the saints will reign with Christ in Rome and not Jerusalem?
Daniel ,7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
The kingdom in Daniel 7:27 is the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God will become the ruling Kingdom here on earth over all nations, when Jesus returns, bringing the Kingdom of Heaven to here on earth to become the Kingdom of God ruling over the nations.
In the Lord's prayer....Thy kingdom come
The Lord’s Prayer
Our Father who art in heaven,hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom and the power, and the glory,
forever and ever.
Amen.
tailgator
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The same kingdom.which is consumed is the same exact kingdom given to the saints of God.
According to you,the saints shall reign from Rome.
Why do you not believe they would reign from Jerusalem?
Daniel ,7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
tailgator
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God made a promise to give Abraham and his seed Christ the land of Canaan .
But you say he gives them Rome.
Stop claiming that I said thing - that I did not say.
Yes, God gave the land of Canaan to Abraham and his seed. Canaanites are ancient people. And were even around at Jesus's time.
But in the end times, which we now live, Canaan is not a nation, for the beast-person to originate from.
The fourth kingdom of iron in Daniel 7, the Roman Empire, future of Daniel, in the end times has manifested itself as the EU.
tailgator
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The word of God says the kingdom of the little horn will be consumed,and then given to the saints of God .This kingdom is an everlasting kingdom.
You said this kingdom being discussed here is Rome
Why do you not believe it is Jerusalem?
Daniel ,7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
tailgator
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You don't believe Jerusalem can kill the saints of God?
Mathew 23:34,
Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
You believe christians in Rome will kill christians in Rome but you don't believe christians could be killed in Israel by antichrist Jews.
I said Roman empire, not Rome the city.
Jerusalem is a city, not a kingdom nor empire.
The verse is speaking about the religious leaders in Israel at the time.
Again, stop saying things I have not stated.
tailgator
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So your saying the roman empire is the little horn whos kingdom is consumed and given to the saints.
Why do you believe God would break his promise to Abraham seed and not give his seed the land of Israel?
You say he gives Abrahams seed the land of Rome.
Daniel ,7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
tailgator
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What city are these saints reigning from?
And who reigned in this city before it was given to these saints,?
Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
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tailgator
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You said the beast that kills the christians is the Christian kingdom of Rome Italy.
There is no Roman empire and never will again.
It has no resources to become anything but broke ,which it is
No, I am saying that the little horn's kingdom will be destroyed. And at that time, the Kingdom of God will be inherited by the saints.
Abraham and his descendants, the children of Israel, will inherit the land of Israel.
In Matthew 24:31, Jesus sends out his angels to gather the Jews out of the nations and brings them to the land of Israel.
Fulfilling a promise that God made to the children of Israel in Deuteronomy 30:1-6.
4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Revelation 20:4-6 is referring to the martyred great tribulation saints who will be resurrected and rule with Christ from Jerusalem.
For the 42 months before Jesus's return, the beast-king will be occupying Jerusalem.
tailgator
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According to the prophecy
The saints inherit the kingdom which of the beast ruled.
Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
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