The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

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Douggg

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Again, every response you make is all about the future. You are completely missing the point of Daniel... it is all about the complete restoration of Daniel's people and Daniel's city after their return to Jerusalem. There is no more Daniel's people or city after the cross... After the cross, there is no more Jew or Greek, etc.
There is no more Jew or Greek - in Christ. But there are certainly still the two ethnic groups of Jews and Gentiles.

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There certainly is no EU in Daniel ... you have simply not interpreted Daniel but moved on to try and determine what Revelation is telling you and then you are casting that back to the verses in Daniel
There is not the term "pagan Rome" in Daniel either.'

In Daniel 10, Daniel is visited by an angel. The angel came to make Daniel understand what would befall his people - the Jews - in the latter days.

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

Then the angel begins to tell Daniel what is going to happen to his people in Daniel 11 and Daniel 12. In Daniel 11:36, what the angel tells him picks up in the time of the end (from verse 35) and everything the angel tells him thereafter is time of the end, as the angel goes into talking about the time of the end events involving Daniel's people in Daniel 12.

So, if you are going to interpret what is in the book of Daniel, you are going to have interpret Daniel 11:36 thru to Daniel 12:13, which concludes with the angel telling Daniel....

Daniel 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

So Daniel is told that he would someday die, but would be resurrected (his body) in the end of the days. Daniel will be resurrected (his body) in the rapture/resurrection event and return with Jesus at the end of the 70th week of Daniel 9. Right now, Daniel's soul is in heaven with the Lord.
 
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There is no more Jew or Greek - in Christ. But there are certainly still the two ethnic groups of Jews and Gentiles.

Daniel

There is not the term "pagan Rome" in Daniel either.'

In Daniel 10, Daniel is visited by an angel. The angel came to make Daniel understand what would befall his people - the Jews - in the latter days.

Daniel 11:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

Then the angel begins to tell Daniel what is going to happen to his people in Daniel 11 and Daniel 12. In Daniel 11:36, what the angel tells him picks up in the time of the end (from verse 35) and everything the angel tells him thereafter is time of the end, as the angel goes into talking about the time of the end events involving Daniel's people in Daniel 12.

So, if you are going to interpret what is in the book of Daniel, you are going to have interpret Daniel 11:36 thru to Daniel 12:13, which concludes with the angel telling Daniel....

Daniel 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

So Daniel is told that he would someday die, but would be resurrected (his body) in the end of the days. Daniel will be resurrected (his body) in the rapture/resurrection event and return with Jesus at the end of the 70th week of Daniel 9. Right now, Daniel's soul is in heaven with the Lord.
11:14 is indeed the latter days… it means the time of the Messiah, not the end times in chapter 12.

Pagan Rome was indeed the 4th kingdom and was the kingdom at the time of the Messiah.

The end of chapter 11 discusses the little horn (papacy) who would come to power. He would indeed continue until the end times.

Have a good evening, Dougg.
 

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11:14 is indeed the latter days… it means the time of the Messiah, not the end times in chapter 12.
I made a typo, it is Daniel 10:14, not Daniel 11:14. (I fixed it.)

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

The latter days, the time of the end, begins in Daniel 11:36, with Daniel 11:35 being the transition verse. And the time of the end verses continue all the way to the end of Daniel 12.

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Now if you say - the latter days mean the time of the messiah, not the end times in chapter 12 - then, where is the messiah being spoken of in Daniel 11 ? What verse(s) ?

Note: it is universally understood that Daniel 11:31, the abomination that makes desolate was the setting up of the statue of Zeus in the temple in Jerusalem by Antiochus IV.

Antiochus IV lived 215 BC to 164 BC. So anything about the messiah being spoken of in Daniel 11, would have to after Daniel 11:31.
 
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The end of chapter 11 discusses the little horn (papacy) who would come to power. He would indeed continue until the end times.
What specific verses of Daniel 11 are you claiming discusses the little horn (papacy) ?
 

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I made a typo, it is Daniel 10:14, not Daniel 11:14. (I fixed it.)

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

The latter days, the time of the end, begins in Daniel 11:36, with Daniel 11:35 being the transition verse. And the time of the end verses continue all the way to the end of Daniel 12.

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Now if you say - the latter days mean the time of the messiah, not the end times in chapter 12 - then, where is the messiah being spoken of in Daniel 11 ? What verse(s) ?

Note: it is universally understood that Daniel 11:31, the abomination that makes desolate was the setting up of the statue of Zeus in the temple in Jerusalem by Antiochus IV.

Antiochus IV lived 215 BC to 164 BC. So anything about the messiah being spoken of in Daniel 11, would have to after Daniel 11:31.
Dougg, Chapter 11 is indeed universally understood to speak of the post Alexander period PRIOR to the start of pagan Rome. But Chapter 11 has nothings my to do with that period of our history or those people such as AE, the Ptolemy’s and the Seleucid’s.

But this is the most difficult chapter to interpret and no matter what details I provide to you regarding Chapter 9 or 7 or 8 or even Chapter 2, you completely and immediately reject them…. You have your mind well made up…
 

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Dougg, Chapter 11 is indeed universally understood to speak of the post Alexander period PRIOR to the start of pagan Rome. But Chapter 11 has nothings my to do with that period of our history or those people such as AE, the Ptolemy’s and the Seleucid’s.

Daniel 11 has noting to do with Antiochus IV ?

Daniel 11:31 is universally considered to be talking about Antiochus IV and his setting up the statue of Zeus abomination of desolation in the temple.

Antiochus IV was headed down south to depose the ruler of Egypt, but was encountered by the Romans in Daniel 11:30, who forced him to turn around or face war with Rome. So Antiochus IV turned around and headed back to Greece. And on the way back, took out his frustration on the Jews and setup the statute of Zeus in the temple, in Daniel 11:31.

That is the universal understanding of Daniel 11:31. So since Antiochus IV lived 215 BC-164 BC, before Christ, then any verses in Daniel 11 about Christ would have to be after Daniel 11:31.

You claim is that the latter days in Daniel 10:14 that the angel was about to spell out of what would happen to Daniel's people, is not talking about the time of the end - but about the time of Jesus's first coming. So prove it, from the verses spoken by the angel in Daniel 11, show the verses that the angel spoke about Jesus. Show the verses in Daniel 11 that are speaking about the messiah.

Daniel 10:14 - Daniel 12:13 is the angel speaking to Daniel.

Jesus's death on the cross is not the abomination of desolation, in either Daniel 11:31 (by Antiochus IV), nor the time of the end abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11 (by the false prophet in Revelation).

Your analysis of Daniel 9, the 70th week, as being fulfilled already, is therefore also wrong. The 70th week is time of the end and is still unfulfilled.
 
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Daniel 11 has noting to do with Antiochus IV ?

Daniel 11:31 is universally considered to be talking about Antiochus IV and his setting up the statue of Zeus abomination of desolation in the temple.

Antiochus IV was headed down south to depose the ruler of Egypt, but was encountered by the Romans in Daniel 11:30, who forced him to turn around or face war with Rome. So Antiochus IV turned around and headed back to Greece. And on the way back, took out his frustration on the Jews and setup the statute of Zeus in the temple, in Daniel 11:31.

That is the universal understanding of Daniel 11:31. So since Antiochus IV lived 215 BC-164 BC, before Christ, then any verses in Daniel 11 about Christ would have to be after Daniel 11:31.

You claim is that the latter days in Daniel 10:14 that the angel was about to spell out of what would happen to Daniel's people, is not talking about the time of the end - but about the time of Jesus's first coming. So prove it, from the verses spoken by the angel in Daniel 11, show the verses that the angel spoke about Jesus. Show the verses in Daniel 11 that are speaking about the messiah.

Daniel 10:14 - Daniel 12:3 is the angel speaking to Daniel.

Jesus's death on the cross is not the abomination of desolation, in either Daniel 11:31 (by Antiochus IV), nor the time of the end abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11 (by the false prophet in Revelation).

Your analysis of Daniel 9, the 70th week, as being fulfilled already, is therefore also wrong. The 70th week is time of the end and is still unfulfilled.
Thanks Dougg.
 

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Your analysis of Daniel 9, the 70th week, as being fulfilled already, is therefore also wrong. The 70th week is time of the end and is still unfulfilled.
If you want to be taken seriously in relation to the 70 week prophecy of Daniel then you need to give your understanding of how the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled since you say they haven't been fulfilled yet. Have you figured that out yet, Douggg?
 

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If you want to be taken seriously in relation to the 70 week prophecy of Daniel then you need to give your understanding of how the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled since you say they haven't been fulfilled yet. Have you figured that out yet, Douggg?
How does the last week play out in the one week is seven years view?
 

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If you want to be taken seriously in relation to the 70 week prophecy of Daniel then you need to give your understanding of how the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled since you say they haven't been fulfilled yet. Have you figured that out yet, Douggg?
Start a new thread.
 

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How does the last week play out in the one week is seven years view?
It is clear that God has presented His prophecies in two distinct parts: a dream sequence and an interpretation sequence. Similar to the depiction of the four kingdoms in the metal-man image, the three sections of time in Daniel’s seventy weeks of years prophecy (7 weeks, 62 weeks, and 1 week) each have their own specific actors, events, and purposes. These sections align with the kingdom prophecies in Chapters 2, 7, and 8, suggesting that the three time periods are literal, consecutive, and uninterrupted. This structured approach highlights the orderly nature of the prophetic timeline, showing how each segment unfolds according to God's plan and purpose. There are no gaps or pauses between any of these prophetic sections. The specific language in Daniel 9:24, stating that the seventy weeks are "for your people and your holy city," further supports this consecutive timeline, emphasizing the continuity of events related to the Jewish people and Jerusalem. Considering that both the people and the city faced destruction in 70 AD, it reinforces the prophecy's continuous nature up to its fulfillment. However, there will be a slight departure from this pattern in the final week (7 years), although it will not alter the literal and spiritual events scheduled to occur within these 490 years. This aspect will be explained in more detail later on.

In verse 25b, Gabriel provides Daniel with two interpretation-like verses. The first confirms the rebuilding of Jerusalem, specifying that its walls and streets will be completed within the initial timed section of the prophecy, spanning the first seven weeks (49 literal years) from 457 BC to 408 BC. The second interpretation-like verse pertains to the third timed section of the prophecy, corresponding to the final week (7 literal years). In this last week, Daniel reveals when the Messiah will arrive—on the first day of the start of Daniel’s final week, marking the beginning of His earthly ministry. The Messiah's arrival occurs after the completion of the seven weeks (49 literal years) and the sixty-two weeks (434 literal years), totaling sixty-nine weeks (483 literal years).

Gabriel has outlined the events that will unfold within the two timed prophecies bookending the seventy-weeks-of-years prophecy, but notably absent is any mention of the middle section spanning sixty-two weeks, or 434 literal years. There is consensus regarding the events to be fulfilled within the first 49 years or the first section of the prophecy, however, there is no agreement regarding the third section of the last week of the prophecy. Much like the dream sequence in Chapter 2, Gabriel delineates the external and internal time boundaries to be adhered to. In Chapter 9, these time markers are similarly emphasized and respected. By telling us what will take place during the first section and the third section of the prophecy, God is connecting all three sections within the 70 weeks of years prophecy. If we return to the purpose of the prophecy, it is to restore everything that was taken or destroyed by the Babylonians. Consequently, God’s plan of restoration would have to include all the pieces of the furniture within the Sanctuary, as well as all the physical elements such as the Temple, the walls and streets and of course, the Levitical ceremonies and Sabbatical cycles. Therefore, God would assign those who would be responsible for these specific elements as well as to identify exactly when they were to be completed or fulfilled.
God would assign His people to complete all the physical elements for the restoration prophecy; the Temple, the walls and streets, the Levitical ceremonies and the Sabbath cycles. However, the only piece of furniture that His people could never restore is the Ark of the Covenant. This of course, is the presence of God in the Sanctuary. Thus, God would set aside this final piece of the restoration to take place in the last week of the prophecy, and, this could only be fulfilled by the Messiah. The Ark was the first piece of furniture taken from the Holy of Holies by Jeremiah to ensure it would not be captured and it would be the last piece of furniture to be restored in the restoration prophecy of the 70 weeks by the arrival of the Messiah. Thus, another reason why there can be no gaps or pauses in this prophecy or throwing the last week some 2000 years into the future. God had to restore the Ark within the prophetic timeline of the prophecy – and He did.

While the first section of seven weeks, or 49 literal years, is entirely restorative (the physical elements of the restoration of Jerusalem), the third section, or the last week of seven years, is both restorative and destructive.

1. The Messiah will fulfill all six of the elements found in verse 24 (already, but not yet).

2. The Messiah will put an end to the sacrifices and offerings (immediately at the cross).

3. The Messiah will confirm the covenant with His people (immediately at the cross).

4. The city, the Sanctuary, and the Temple were to be destroyed (in 70 AD).

5. For those of His people who will reject Him as their Messiah, they will experience complete spiritual desolation from their one true God until:

In Hosea 5:15,15I will return again to My place Till they acknowledge their offense. Then they will seek My face; In their affliction they will earnestly seek Me.

In Acts 3:19-21,19Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, 21whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

In Matthew 23:39, For I say to you, from now on you shall not see Me until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!
 

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It is clear that God has presented His prophecies in two distinct parts: a dream sequence and an interpretation sequence. Similar to the depiction of the four kingdoms in the metal-man image, the three sections of time in Daniel’s seventy weeks of years prophecy (7 weeks, 62 weeks, and 1 week) each have their own specific actors, events, and purposes. These sections align with the kingdom prophecies in Chapters 2, 7, and 8, suggesting that the three time periods are literal, consecutive, and uninterrupted. This structured approach highlights the orderly nature of the prophetic timeline, showing how each segment unfolds according to God's plan and purpose. There are no gaps or pauses between any of these prophetic sections. The specific language in Daniel 9:24, stating that the seventy weeks are "for your people and your holy city," further supports this consecutive timeline, emphasizing the continuity of events related to the Jewish people and Jerusalem. Considering that both the people and the city faced destruction in 70 AD, it reinforces the prophecy's continuous nature up to its fulfillment. However, there will be a slight departure from this pattern in the final week (7 years), although it will not alter the literal and spiritual events scheduled to occur within these 490 years. This aspect will be explained in more detail later on.

In verse 25b, Gabriel provides Daniel with two interpretation-like verses. The first confirms the rebuilding of Jerusalem, specifying that its walls and streets will be completed within the initial timed section of the prophecy, spanning the first seven weeks (49 literal years) from 457 BC to 408 BC. The second interpretation-like verse pertains to the third timed section of the prophecy, corresponding to the final week (7 literal years). In this last week, Daniel reveals when the Messiah will arrive—on the first day of the start of Daniel’s final week, marking the beginning of His earthly ministry. The Messiah's arrival occurs after the completion of the seven weeks (49 literal years) and the sixty-two weeks (434 literal years), totaling sixty-nine weeks (483 literal years).

Gabriel has outlined the events that will unfold within the two timed prophecies bookending the seventy-weeks-of-years prophecy, but notably absent is any mention of the middle section spanning sixty-two weeks, or 434 literal years. There is consensus regarding the events to be fulfilled within the first 49 years or the first section of the prophecy, however, there is no agreement regarding the third section of the last week of the prophecy. Much like the dream sequence in Chapter 2, Gabriel delineates the external and internal time boundaries to be adhered to. In Chapter 9, these time markers are similarly emphasized and respected. By telling us what will take place during the first section and the third section of the prophecy, God is connecting all three sections within the 70 weeks of years prophecy. If we return to the purpose of the prophecy, it is to restore everything that was taken or destroyed by the Babylonians. Consequently, God’s plan of restoration would have to include all the pieces of the furniture within the Sanctuary, as well as all the physical elements such as the Temple, the walls and streets and of course, the Levitical ceremonies and Sabbatical cycles. Therefore, God would assign those who would be responsible for these specific elements as well as to identify exactly when they were to be completed or fulfilled.
God would assign His people to complete all the physical elements for the restoration prophecy; the Temple, the walls and streets, the Levitical ceremonies and the Sabbath cycles. However, the only piece of furniture that His people could never restore is the Ark of the Covenant. This of course, is the presence of God in the Sanctuary. Thus, God would set aside this final piece of the restoration to take place in the last week of the prophecy, and, this could only be fulfilled by the Messiah. The Ark was the first piece of furniture taken from the Holy of Holies by Jeremiah to ensure it would not be captured and it would be the last piece of furniture to be restored in the restoration prophecy of the 70 weeks by the arrival of the Messiah. Thus, another reason why there can be no gaps or pauses in this prophecy or throwing the last week some 2000 years into the future. God had to restore the Ark within the prophetic timeline of the prophecy – and He did.

While the first section of seven weeks, or 49 literal years, is entirely restorative (the physical elements of the restoration of Jerusalem), the third section, or the last week of seven years, is both restorative and destructive.

1. The Messiah will fulfill all six of the elements found in verse 24 (already, but not yet).

2. The Messiah will put an end to the sacrifices and offerings (immediately at the cross).

3. The Messiah will confirm the covenant with His people (immediately at the cross).

4. The city, the Sanctuary, and the Temple were to be destroyed (in 70 AD).

5. For those of His people who will reject Him as their Messiah, they will experience complete spiritual desolation from their one true God until:

In Hosea 5:15,15I will return again to My place Till they acknowledge their offense. Then they will seek My face; In their affliction they will earnestly seek Me.

In Acts 3:19-21,19Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, 21whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

In Matthew 23:39, For I say to you, from now on you shall not see Me until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!
Thanks for your reply. I believe Daniels 70 weeks are literal 7 day weeks.

I believe “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city” means Israel and earthly Jerusalem will cease to exist.
 

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How does the last week play out in the one week is seven years view?
In my view Jesus was cut off (crucified) in the middle or in the midst of the 70th week. We know He was crucified after the end of the 69th week because it indicates as such in Daniel 9:26. I believe His ministry, which was for about 3 or 3 1/2 years, is what started the 70th week and then He was crucified.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

I hope you understand that Jesus established the new covenant with His shed blood by way His "once for all" sacrifice? And do you understand that made the old covenant sacrifices and offerings obsolete (Heb 8:13)? That is what I believe it's talking about when it says "he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease". I see the preaching of the gospel through the power of the Holy Spirit, which started in Israel (Acts 1:8) as being the rest of the 70th week. So, His ministry, His death and resurrection and the preaching of the gospel first in Israel before going to the Gentiles is what confirmed the new covenant.
 
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Start a new thread.
Oh, so you can talk about the 70 week prophecy in this thread, but I can't? Why not just answer my question? Afraid to do so? If you still have no idea of how Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled, as was the case the last time I talked to you about it, you can just say so.
 

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Oh, so you can talk about the 70 week prophecy in this thread, but I can't? Why not just answer my question? Afraid to do so? If you still have no idea of how Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled, as was the case the last time I talked to you about it, you can just say so.
Discussion of the 6 things in Daniel 9:24 is expansive and takes this thread more off topic than it already is. Start a new thread about the 6 things in Daniel 9:24 and how they apply to the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.
 

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In my view Jesus was cut off (crucified) in the middle or in the midst of the 70th week. We know He was crucified after the end of the 69th week because it indicates as such in Daniel 9:26. I believe His ministry, which was for about 3 or 3 1/2 years, is what started the 70th week and then He was crucified.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

I hope you understand that Jesus established the new covenant with His shed blood by way His "once for all" sacrifice? And do you understand that made the old covenant sacrifices and offerings obsolete (Heb 8:13)? That is what I believe it's talking about when it says "he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease". I see the preaching of the gospel through the power of the Holy Spirit, which started in Israel (Acts 1:8) as being the rest of the 70th week. So, His ministry, His death and resurrection and the preaching of the gospel first in Israel before going to the Gentiles is what confirmed the new covenant.
I agree with most of that but not the last part of the week. The verse says HE shall confirm the covenant with many for one week meaning the events confirming the covenant would be accomplished by Jesus.

I don’t see how the disciples preaching the gospel for 3 1/2 years after his death could be considered something that Jesus did.
 

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Discussion of the 6 things in Daniel 9:24 is expansive and takes this thread more off topic than it already is. Start a new thread about the 6 things in Daniel 9:24 and how they apply to the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.
I have actually already done that before. That's how I first found out that you have no idea how Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled. Please don't act like you have any understanding of the 70 weeks prophecy until you are able to explain the fulfillment of Daniel 9:24. If you don't have any understanding of that verse then you can't possibly have any understanding of the rest of the prophecy, either.
 

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I agree with most of that but not the last part of the week. The verse says HE shall confirm the covenant with many for one week meaning the events confirming the covenant would be accomplished by Jesus.

I don’t see how the disciples preaching the gospel for 3 1/2 years after his death could be considered something that Jesus did.
Why not? Do you understand that Jesus spiritually lives in us who belong to Him?

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

The Spirit of Christ lives in us, right? And the preaching of the gospel is through the power of the Spirit, right? Well, there you go. Need I say more?
 
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Why not? Do you understand that Jesus spiritually lives in us who belong to Him?

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

The Spirit of Christ lives in us, right? And the preaching of the gospel is through the power of the Spirit, right? Well, there you go. Need I say more?
With that reasoning you could say the 70th week is still going on today.

You’re trying to cram a square peg in a round hole.