The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

[Truth7t7]

Brethren in Christ, those who can actually 'read' for themselves... Truth7t7 is telling a FAT LIE against Christ's future LITERAL "thousand years" reign with His elect saints for AFTER the time of "great tribulation"... AS WRITTEN...

Rev 20:1-6
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
KJV

Truth7t7 even is using a forum name that is actually a disguise, so that he can push lies here and make the Biblically illiterate think he represents God's Truth. Those he is listening to are followers of the devil, and the devil well understands Bible Scripture, but goes against God and His Christ and His Word, adding or taking away from it so at to twist it. The devil's position that Truth7t7 is on is the FALSE theory of Amillennialism which wholly rejects the above simple literal Revelation 20 Scripture about Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect saints.

The above timing shown there in Revelation 20 is EASY, because it shows the time when Satan is locked in his pit prison so that he CANNOT DECEIVE the nations, which to this day, has NOT YET happened (See 1 Peter 5:8).

Also in that Revelation 20 Scripture above is shown a time of the saints for AFTER the "great tribulation". That because the time of that false worship of the beast, or worship of his image, or receiving his mark of the beast in one's forehead or hand, is for the "great tribulation" time at the very end of this world, which Jesus returns to end that working and gather His saints. Thus the above Revelation 20:1-6 verses are clearly post-tribulation timing with Christ having returned.

A time marker in the above Scripture that reveals it is post-tribulation timing after Christ has returned is that manifesting of those saints who went through the "great tribulation" (along with the other saints), have then been literally made "priests of God and of Christ". That will occur only at Christ's future return and gathering of His Church and handing out His rewards to His faithful elect saints.

And yet another marker the above Scripture is only for after Christ's future return is that idea of those saints representing the "first resurrection". That resurrection of the saints that have died is still... future to us today, as it will only happen on the day of Christ's future 2nd coming, the last day of this world like Jesus said in John 6:40.

Like the old saying, 'Even a blind hog can find an acorn sometimes', those like Truth7t7 who listen to the devil's doctrines for the blind cannot even find all the many 'acorns' in that above Revelation 20 Scripture about Christ's future LITERAL "thousand years" reign with His elect priests.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

The "thousand years" of Revelation 20 is NOT... symbolism.

Your problem is that you see the words "Thousand Years" as literal earthly time and it's not, the words "Zillion Years" could be used, the words "Thousand Years" represents God's eternal in the spiritual, its that simple

Is the time seen below in 2 Peter 3:8 one literal day or one thousand literal years?

"It's neither", it's doing nothing more than showing the human mind that in the Lord's eternal spiritual realm literal time doesn't exist, it's that simple

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[CTK]

I believe this will be my last response to this issue.... not much more to offer.


1. The 7th Day Sabbath Typology (Millennial Rest)

• Many see human history as a “week” of 7,000 years:

• ~6,000 years of human labor and sin (6 “days” of work),
• followed by 1,000 years of rest with the Lord (the 7th “day” Sabbath).

• This idea echoes 2 Peter 3:8: “With the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
• Just as God rested on the 7th day after creation, so too will there be a global “rest” — a Sabbath millennium — in which Christ reigns and creation enjoys peace.

2. Repetition in Revelation Suggests Literal Intent

• As I mentioned earlier, Revelation 20 mentions "a thousand years" six times (vv. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7), which gives weight to the idea that it’s not symbolic.
• Symbolic numbers in Revelation are often expressed once with additional symbolic context. The repetition of "1000 years" without figurative language surrounding it argues for a literal duration.

3. Consistent with a Linear View of Redemptive History

• Scripture frequently moves in a linear timeline of events: creation → fall → covenant → Messiah → church age → second coming → judgment → restoration.
• The millennium fits neatly between the second coming and the final judgment, giving time for certain promises (like judgment of the wicked, resurrection, Satan’s imprisonment) to be fulfilled before the final re-creation.

4. Literal Resurrection Supports a Literal Millennium

• Revelation 20:4-6 speaks of a first resurrection (of the righteous) and later a resurrection of the rest of the dead (the wicked). These are treated as two distinct events separated by 1000 years.
• If the resurrections are literal, the time span separating them should be taken literally as well.

 

[Marty fox]

It says that the pit is opened in Revelation 9, so why would you not think Satan would be released at that point?

Revelation
9 The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the keyto the shaft of the Abyss. 2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. 3 And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. 4 They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes. 6 During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

7 The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. 8 Their hair was like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. 9 They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle.10 They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. 11 They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).

Because the text only says that the locus are allowed out at that time. Remember they have to be allowed out, it doesn’t say that apollyon is allowed out only that he is their king. If he was allowed out at that time the text would say so. That would be an assumptiom.

Satan is allowed out in Revelation 20:7
7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison

We have to go by what the scriptures say

 

[ewq1938]

I believe this will be my last response to this issue.... not much more to offer.


1. The 7th Day Sabbath Typology (Millennial Rest)

• Many see human history as a “week” of 7,000 years:

• ~6,000 years of human labor and sin (6 “days” of work),
• followed by 1,000 years of rest with the Lord (the 7th “day” Sabbath).

• This idea echoes 2 Peter 3:8: “With the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
• Just as God rested on the 7th day after creation, so too will there be a global “rest” — a Sabbath millennium — in which Christ reigns and creation enjoys peace.

2. Repetition in Revelation Suggests Literal Intent

• As I mentioned earlier, Revelation 20 mentions "a thousand years" six times (vv. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7), which gives weight to the idea that it’s not symbolic.
• Symbolic numbers in Revelation are often expressed once with additional symbolic context. The repetition of "1000 years" without figurative language surrounding it argues for a literal duration.

3. Consistent with a Linear View of Redemptive History

• Scripture frequently moves in a linear timeline of events: creation → fall → covenant → Messiah → church age → second coming → judgment → restoration.
• The millennium fits neatly between the second coming and the final judgment, giving time for certain promises (like judgment of the wicked, resurrection, Satan’s imprisonment) to be fulfilled before the final re-creation.

4. Literal Resurrection Supports a Literal Millennium

• Revelation 20:4-6 speaks of a first resurrection (of the righteous) and later a resurrection of the rest of the dead (the wicked). These are treated as two distinct events separated by 1000 years.
• If the resurrections are literal, the time span separating them should be taken literally as well.

@CTK Add the specific use of the word that means exactly a thousand:

The following scriptures are from the E-sword bible program, specifically the KJV+ which gives the Strong's numbers for every word side by side with the English words. It might look confusing but it is important to show the English/Greek words and how they are used in scripture.



Proving the thousand years of Revelation 20 is exactly 1000 years.

The Greek word chilias "thousand" G5505 is only used in scripture when there is multiples of thousands of something:


Luk_14:31 OrG2228 whatG5101 king,G935 goingG4198 to make warG4820 G1519 G4171 against anotherG2087 king,G935 sitteth not downG2523 G3780 first,G4412 andG2532 consultethG1011 whetherG1487 he beG2076 ableG1415 withG1722 tenG1176 thousandG5505 to meetG528 him that comethG2064 againstG1909 himG846 withG3326 twentyG1501 thousand?G5505

Act_4:4 HowbeitG1161 manyG4183 of them which heardG191 theG3588 wordG3056 believed;G4100 andG2532 theG3588 numberG706 of theG3588 menG435 wasG1096 aboutG5616 fiveG4002 thousand.G5505

1Co_10:8 NeitherG3366 let us commit fornication,G4203 asG2531 someG5100 of themG846 committed,G4203 andG2532 fellG4098 inG1722 oneG3391 dayG2250 three and twenty thousand.G5140 G1501 G5505

Rev_5:11 AndG2532 I beheld,G1492 andG2532 I heardG191 the voiceG5456 of manyG4183 angelsG32 round aboutG2943 theG3588 throneG2362 andG2532 theG3588 beastsG2226 andG2532 theG3588 elders:G4245 andG2532 theG3588 numberG706 of themG846 wasG2258 ten thousand times ten thousand,G3461 G3461 andG2532 thousands of thousands;G5505 G5505

Rev_7:4 AndG2532 I heardG191 theG3588 numberG706 of them which were sealed:G4972 and there were sealedG4972 an hundred and forty and four thousandG1540 G5062 G5064 G5505 ofG1537 allG3956 the tribesG5443 of the childrenG5207 of Israel.G2474
Rev_7:5 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of JudaG2455 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of ReubenG4502 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of GadG1045 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505
Rev_7:6 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of AserG768 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of NepthalimG3508 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of ManassesG3128 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505
Rev_7:7 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of SimeonG4826 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of LeviG3017 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of IssacharG2466 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505
Rev_7:8 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of ZabulonG2194 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of JosephG2501 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of BenjaminG958 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505

Rev_11:13 AndG2532 the sameG1565 hourG5610 wasG1096 there a greatG3173 earthquake,G4578 andG2532 theG3588 tenth partG1182 of theG3588 cityG4172 fell,G4098 andG2532 inG1722 theG3588 earthquakeG4578 were slainG615 of(G3686) menG444 sevenG2033 thousand:G5505 andG2532 theG3588 remnantG3062 wereG1096 affrighted,G1719 andG2532 gaveG1325 gloryG1391 to theG3588 GodG2316 of heaven.G3772

Rev_14:1 AndG2532 I looked,G1492 and,G2532 lo,G2400 a LambG721 stoodG2476 onG1909 theG3588 mountG3735 Sion,G4622 andG2532 withG3326 himG846 an hundred forty and four thousand,G1540 G5062 G5064 G5505 havingG2192 hisG848 Father'sG3962 nameG3686 writtenG1125 inG1909 theirG848 foreheads.G3359

 

[ewq1938]

Rev_14:3 AndG2532 they sungG103 as it wereG5613 a newG2537 songG5603 beforeG1799 theG3588 throne,G2362 andG2532 beforeG1799 theG3588 fourG5064 beasts,G2226 andG2532 theG3588 elders:G4245 andG2532 no manG3762 couldG1410 learnG3129 that songG5603 butG1508 theG3588 hundred and forty and four thousand,G1540 G5062 G5064 G5505 which were redeemedG59 fromG575 theG3588 earth.G1093

Rev_21:16 AndG2532 theG3588 cityG4172 liethG2749 foursquare,G5068 andG2532 theG3588 lengthG3372 (G848) isG2076 as largeG5118 asG3745 theG3588 breadth:G4114 andG2532 he measuredG3354 theG3588 cityG4172 with theG3588 reed,G2563 twelveG1427 thousandG5505 (G1909) furlongs.G4712 TheG3588 lengthG3372 andG2532 theG3588 breadthG4114 andG2532 theG3588 heightG5311 of itG846 areG2076 equal.G2470


Yet when the number is only one single thousand of something or one thousand plus another number that's less than two thousand, the Greek word chilioi G5507 is used:


2Pe_3:8 But,G1161 beloved,G27 be not ignorantG2990 G3361 of thisG5124 one thing,G1520 thatG3754 oneG3391 dayG2250 is withG3844 the LordG2962 asG5613 a thousandG5507 years,G2094 andG2532 a thousandG5507 yearsG2094 asG5613 oneG3391 day.G2250

Rev_11:3 AndG2532 I will giveG1325 power unto myG3450 twoG1417 witnesses,G3144 andG2532 they shall prophesyG4395 a thousand two hundred and threescoreG5507 G1250 G1835 days,G2250 clothedG4016 in sackcloth.G4526

Rev_12:6 AndG2532 theG3588 womanG1135 fledG5343 intoG1519 theG3588 wilderness,G2048 whereG3699 she hathG2192 a placeG5117 preparedG2090 ofG575 God,G2316 thatG2443 they should feedG5142 herG846 thereG1563 a thousand two hundred and threescoreG5507 G1250 G1835 days.G2250

Rev_14:20 AndG2532 theG3588 winepressG3025 was troddenG3961 withoutG1854 theG3588 city,G4172 andG2532 bloodG129 cameG1831 out ofG1537 theG3588 winepress,G3025 even untoG891 theG3588 horseG2462 bridles,G5469 by the space ofG575 a thousand and six hundredG5507 G1812 furlongs.G4712

Rev_20:2 AndG2532 he laid hold onG2902 theG3588 dragon,G1404 that oldG744 serpent,G3789 whichG3739 isG2076 the Devil,G1228 andG2532 Satan,G4567 andG2532 boundG1210 himG846 a thousandG5507 years,G2094

Rev_20:3 AndG2532 castG906 himG846 intoG1519 theG3588 bottomless pit,G12 andG2532 shut him up,G2808 G846 andG2532 set a sealG4972 uponG1883 him,G846 thatG2443 he should deceiveG4105 theG3588 nationsG1484 noG3361 more,G2089 tillG891 theG3588 thousandG5507 yearsG2094 should be fulfilled:G5055 andG2532 afterG3326 thatG5023 heG846 mustG1163 be loosedG3089 a littleG3398 season.G5550

Rev_20:4 AndG2532 I sawG1492 thrones,G2362 andG2532 they satG2523 uponG1909 them,G846 andG2532 judgmentG2917 was givenG1325 unto them:G846 andG2532 I saw theG3588 soulsG5590 of them that were beheadedG3990 forG1223 theG3588 witnessG3141 of Jesus,G2424 andG2532 forG1223 theG3588 wordG3056 of God,G2316 andG2532 whichG3748 had notG3756 worshippedG4352 theG3588 beast,G2342 neitherG3777 hisG846 image,G1504 neitherG2532 G3756 had receivedG2983 his markG5480 uponG1909 theirG848 foreheads,G3359 orG2532 inG1909 theirG848 hands;G5495 andG2532 they livedG2198 andG2532 reignedG936 withG3326 ChristG5547 a thousandG5507 years.G2094

Rev_20:5 ButG1161 theG3588 restG3062 of theG3588 deadG3498 lived not againG326 G3756 untilG2193 theG3588 thousandG5507 yearsG2094 were finished.G5055 ThisG3778 is theG3588 firstG4413 resurrection.G386

Rev_20:6 BlessedG3107 andG2532 holyG40 is he that hathG2192 partG3313 inG1722 theG3588 firstG4413 resurrection:G386 onG1909 suchG5130 theG3588 secondG1208 deathG2288 hathG2192 noG3756 power,G1849 butG235 they shall beG2071 priestsG2409 of GodG2316 andG2532 of Christ,G5547 andG2532 shall reignG936 withG3326 himG846 a thousandG5507 years.G2094

Rev_20:7 AndG2532 whenG3752 theG3588 thousandG5507 yearsG2094 are expired,G5055 SatanG4567 shall be loosedG3089 out ofG1537 hisG846 prison,G5438

Mar 5:13 AndG2532 forthwithG2112 JesusG2424 gave them leave.G2010 G846 AndG2532 theG3588 uncleanG169 spiritsG4151 went out,G1831 andG2532 enteredG1525 intoG1519 theG3588 swine:G5519 andG2532 theG3588 herdG34 ran violentlyG3729 downG2596 a steep placeG2911 intoG1519 theG3588 sea,G2281 (they(G1161) wereG2258 aboutG5613 two thousand; )G1367 andG2532 were chokedG4155 inG1722 theG3588 sea.G2281

Here we have a Greek word G1367 dischilioi. "Dis" means two or twice and chilioi (G5507) means a thousand so this word means two thousand. Naturally then if there was one chilioi (G5507) it would be exactly a thousand just as it is in every occurrence of the word in the NT.


This is indisputable evidence that the thousand years is exactly a thousand years.



Rev_11:3 AndG2532 I will giveG1325 power unto myG3450 twoG1417 witnesses,G3144 andG2532 they shall prophesyG4395 a thousand two hundred and threescoreG5507 G1250 G1835 days,G2250 clothedG4016 in sackcloth.G4526

G5507 always means exactly one thousand like it does here. To mean more it needs to have more added to it. Here we have G5507 as exactly one thousand and then 260 added to that one thousand to form 1260. Guess what? If we removed the 260 we would have how many? Exactly one thousand, G5507.

So when we have G5507 alone, it is exactly one thousand. And when scripture speaks of "thousands" in the plural it uses chilias G5505 not G5507.

Rev_5:11 AndG2532 I beheld,G1492 andG2532 I heardG191 the voiceG5456 of manyG4183 angelsG32 round aboutG2943 theG3588 throneG2362 andG2532 theG3588 beastsG2226 andG2532 theG3588 elders:G4245 andG2532 theG3588 numberG706 of themG846 wasG2258 ten thousand times ten thousand,G3461 G3461 andG2532 thousands of thousands;G5505 G5505

If Revelation 20's thousand years was thousands of years like Amillennialism claims, the word needed would be chilias G5505 especially the double appearance of the word as found in Revelation 5:11, "thousands of thousands" which is truly an unknown amount. G5507 strictly means only one thousand and no more. It cannot mean 1001, nor an unknown number of thousands or millions etc.

I'll use an example to further explain the difference of the two words.

G5505 chilias is like a thousand dollar bill. There is just one in your hand but it's worth a thousand dollars and the word is written in the singular because of this.

G5507 chilioi (the Greek word found multiple times in Revelation 20) is like having one thousand dollar bills. That's worth the same exact amount, but it's a plural word because there is a thousand singles of something rather than one thing that equals a thousand. Imagine in your left hand a thousand dollar bill, and in your right hand a thousand one dollar bills. Same amount but the way each amount is represented is different. G5507 is plural in this sense, not that it means more than a thousand or multiples of thousands like 2000. Some Amill's will falsely claim G5507 is plural because it means an unknown amount but that shows ignorance of the Greek language and how numbers are represented.


Amillennialism will falsely claim that chilioi G5507 can have a symbolic meaning but that is false. It is never used in such a way in the Greek manuscripts. The Greek language doesn't have numbers like other languages have, as in non-alphabet characters. The language uses letters to form words that represent numbers. The only way to express and unknown amount is by using "thousands of thousands;G5505 G5505" but that is not used in Revelation 20.

In Greek if one wanted to say they had 1,000 of something, chilioi G5507 would be used. Revelation 20's "a thousand years" is exactly 1,000 years, not 999, not 1,001, not 2,000.

 

[ewq1938]

The main evidences are:

1. There are no NT examples of chilioi meaning more or less than exactly a thousand.
2. It (chilioi) still means exactly a thousand when paired with other numbers.
3. It's uses in the bible (chilioi) are of exactly a thousand every single time it appears.
4. When an unknown amount is used, the word used is G5505 chilias (not chilioi G5507), and it is used twice in a row.
5. G5507 chilioi is never used in this double fashion.
6. The double appearance of G5505 chilias is not found in Revelation 20.

I think this is a strong case that Revelation 20's "thousand years" is exactly a thousand years. There is no evidence in the NT that this is a longer period of time.

I don't find the "Hebrew occasionally uses thousand in a non-literal way" a very good argument because Hebrew is not the same language as Greek. Something that occurs in Hebrew does not mean it also occurs in Greek. The implication is ridiculous and shows zero knowledge of the two languages.

 

[Davidpt]

The main evidences are:

1. There are no NT examples of chilioi meaning more or less than exactly a thousand.
2. It (chilioi) still means exactly a thousand when paired with other numbers.
3. It's uses in the bible (chilioi) are of exactly a thousand every single time it appears.
4. When an unknown amount is used, the word used is G5505 chilias (not chilioi G5507), and it is used twice in a row.
5. G5507 chilioi is never used in this double fashion.
6. The double appearance of G5505 chilias is not found in Revelation 20.

I think this is a strong case that Revelation 20's "thousand years" is exactly a thousand years. There is no evidence in the NT that this is a longer period of time.

I don't find the "Hebrew occasionally uses thousand in a non-literal way" a very good argument because Hebrew is not the same language as Greek. Something that occurs in Hebrew does not mean it also occurs in Greek. The implication is ridiculous and shows zero knowledge of the two languages.

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

a thousand(chilioi) two hundred(diakosioi) and threescore(hexekonta) days


chilioi + diakosioi + hexekonta = 1260 days

Suppose an Amil was asked to fill in the missing Greek word---what Greek word + diakosioi + hexekonta = 1260 days? If their answer is chilioi they just contradicted that chilioi can never mean exactly 1000. Imagine using their logic, that chilioi means more than a thousand, multiple thousands even, such as 2000, for instance.

chilioi(2000) + diakosioi(200) + hexekonta(60) = 1260. Ummm...no, no it doesn't. Anyone that knows how to add correctly would never conclude that 2000 + 200 + 60 = 1260. Anyone that knows how to add correctly knows that equals 2260 not 1260. In no universe is 2260 and 1260 the same amount.

It is crystal clear to we Premils why Amils can't have chilioi meaning exactly 1000. Because if it means exactly 1000 and that they admitted it did, this means their gig is up, they can no longer insist the millennium precedes the 2nd coming.

 

[ewq1938]

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

a thousand(chilioi) two hundred(diakosioi) and threescore(hexekonta) days


chilioi + diakosioi + hexekonta = 1260 days

Suppose an Amil was asked to fill in the missing Greek word---what Greek word + diakosioi + hexekonta = 1260 days? If their answer is chilioi they just contradicted that chilioi can never mean exactly 1000. Imagine using their logic, that chilioi means more than a thousand, multiple thousands even, such as 2000, for instance.

chilioi(2000) + diakosioi(200) + hexekonta(60) = 1260. Ummm...no, no it doesn't. Anyone that knows how to add correctly would never conclude that 2000 + 200 + 60 = 1260. Anyone that knows how to add correctly knows that equals 2260 not 1260. In no universe is 2260 and 1260 the same amount.

It is crystal clear to we Premils why Amils can't have chilioi meaning exactly 1000. Because if it means exactly 1000 and that they admitted it did, this means their gig is up, they can no longer insist the millennium precedes the 2nd coming.

I wonder what Amills would say if someone asked them how God could speak of exactly a thousand of something using the Greek language. Maybe He can't?

Also, if the Amill version of a thousand is more than a thousand, can it also mean less than a thousand?

 

[Davy]

Is the beast going to reign for just one hour at the end?

Not for one literal hour, no, for that "one hour" of Rev.17:12 is being used as a symbol for a certain period at the end of this world.

Rev 17:12
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
KJV

Recall Matthew 20 with Christ's parable of the laborers in the vineyard. The laborers that worked only "one hour" at the end got the same pay as those who worked all day.

Recall the "hour of temptation" per Revelation 3:10.

Recall Revelation 12:12 when Satan is kicked out of heaven down to this earth with his angels, and knows he has but a "short time".

What timing do all those Scriptures point to about the end of this world?

You were told in Revelation 13 how long the "beast" will reign over all peoples and nations at the end. 42 months, which is equal to 1260 days, or a time, times, and an half or 3.5 years. What time is that for the end of this world?

 

[Davy]

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

So what are your preachers that push that false theory of Amillennialism involved in? Are they members of occult fraternities like the Masonic Lodge, or Rosicrucians, etc.? I know of pastors who preach man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory that are high level Masons, members of the occult Masonic fraternity.

It's those occult fraternities that are behind today's setting up of a one-world 'beast' kingdom in preparation for Lucifer's coming to reign over it. The high Mason which they recognize as one of their greats, Albert Pike, even said they are preparing the world for the perfect worship of the Light of Lucifer. Lower Masons don't have a clue that's what they are involved in, but the higher level Masons well know about it and agree with that plan for the whole world. This is why the Masonic Lodge has lodges in just about every nation on earth, and recognizes all... religions as being equal, which is a mockery against Christ Jesus.

Do you call your Lodge leader by the title of 'Worshipful Master'?

Only Lord Jesus Christ is man's Worshipful Master. No man is to be worshiped, only GOD is to be worshiped, and that means through His Son Jesus Christ, our ONLY Mediator to The Father.

All of those things is what their design of Amillennial doctrine is designed to do, to create a one-world beast kingdom at the end of this world. That is why that false theory has to deny Christ's future "thousand years" reign of the future that only begins on the day of His future 2nd coming. Lucifer instead, and his servants that run today's occult fraternities, want to reign over the earth NOW.

 

[rwb]

Great post thanks but I would like to add that you also explained the difference between the thousand year reigning and the thousand year binding.

Both sets of thousand years starts at the cross and resurrection but both sets of thousand years end at different times.

The thousand year binding ends in revelation chapter 20:7 when it states and satan is released but the thousand year binding ends at the end of our world as verse 5 states at the great white throne judgement when the rest of the dead rise.

We don’t reign because satan is bound satan being bound makes no difference to the reigning we reign because of Jesus.

Marty, I believe the thousand years is symbolically time given the church on earth to proclaim the gospel to mankind. It coincides with Satan's binding because the Kingdom of God is being built then, as the gospel is proclaimed, and many hear the gospel and believe, and are assured that they too, like Christ will live forevermore. All who believe by faith have been set free from bondage to fear of death that Satan, before the advent of Christ, had power to hold them in. This is how and why Satan was bound by the power of Christ's death and resurrection. If Christ had not proven that He alone possesses power over death by resurrecting from the dead, proclaiming the gospel that brings eternal life to all who believe Christ would be without hope. How could believers be set free from bondage to fear of death if Christ was not risen?

When this symbolic time is finished the Kingdom of God in heaven will be complete. IMO there will be no more people left alive on this earth to be saved once the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven is complete when the thousand years expire. Once the thousand years have ended, Satan will once again be set free for a little season. Since all who shall be saved will have everlasting life in Christ, Satan will once again have power to hold unbelieving mankind in bondage to fear of death. Believers still alive during Satan's little season will not fear death because we have the power of Christ through His living Spirit within us. After Satan has his little season, the last/final/end of days shall be. Christ will return to gather His faithful saints still alive at His second coming, with saints who have died to meet with Him in the air. Then wrath from the Almighty shall come down as fire from heaven upon all the earth to burn up that belong to the old earth and make all things new again. Then Christ with His Bride, the Church, His saints with immortality, and incorruptibility will come down with Christ to the new heaven and new earth, where we shall be with Christ forevermore.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Revelation
9 The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the keyto the shaft of the Abyss. 2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. 3 And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. 4 They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes. 6 During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

7 The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. 8 Their hair was like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. 9 They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle.10 They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. 11 They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).

Because the text only says that the locus are allowed out at that time.

Can we never imply anything from scripture? If we're not told something explicitly then it can't be true? You agree that Abaddon is Satan and he is the king of the demonic locusts. So, it seems clear that he is in the bottomless pit when they are. Why would he not take the opportunity to come out when it is opened? Of course he would.

Remember they have to be allowed out, it doesn’t say that apollyon is allowed out only that he is their king. If he was allowed out at that time the text would say so. That would be an assumptiom.

If you can't believe anything unless it is explicitly spelled out to you, then I just think that's a strange approach to interpreting scripture.

Satan is allowed out in Revelation 20:7
7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison

We have to go by what the scriptures say

I am going by what the scriptures say. Scripture needs to be spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:9-16). We're not always going to have things explicitly spelled out to us. I see no reason to think that Satan would remain in the bottomless pit if it is opened. I think it goes without saying that he would also come out at that time, so we don't need that to be spelled out to us.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

a thousand(chilioi) two hundred(diakosioi) and threescore(hexekonta) days


chilioi + diakosioi + hexekonta = 1260 days

Suppose an Amil was asked to fill in the missing Greek word---what Greek word + diakosioi + hexekonta = 1260 days? If their answer is chilioi they just contradicted that chilioi can never mean exactly 1000. Imagine using their logic, that chilioi means more than a thousand, multiple thousands even, such as 2000, for instance.

chilioi(2000) + diakosioi(200) + hexekonta(60) = 1260. Ummm...no, no it doesn't. Anyone that knows how to add correctly would never conclude that 2000 + 200 + 60 = 1260. Anyone that knows how to add correctly knows that equals 2260 not 1260. In no universe is 2260 and 1260 the same amount.

It is crystal clear to we Premils why Amils can't have chilioi meaning exactly 1000. Because if it means exactly 1000 and that they admitted it did, this means their gig is up, they can no longer insist the millennium precedes the 2nd coming.

My goodness, you Premills continually come up with these lame arguments. No one is saying that the word chilioi can't mean 1000. The point is that it can mean 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 or any number of thousands. It's indefinite. So, this is just the latest in your long line of arguments that prove nothing.



See that? Plural of uncertain affinity. So, just because it can represent 1000 doesn't mean it has to represent 1000. It can represent multiple thousands or a time period of "uncertain affinity".

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So what are your preachers that push that false theory of Amillennialism involved in? Are they members of occult fraternities like the Masonic Lodge, or Rosicrucians, etc.? I know of pastors who preach man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory that are high level Masons, members of the occult Masonic fraternity.

It's those occult fraternities that are behind today's setting up of a one-world 'beast' kingdom in preparation for Lucifer's coming to reign over it. The high Mason which they recognize as one of their greats, Albert Pike, even said they are preparing the world for the perfect worship of the Light of Lucifer. Lower Masons don't have a clue that's what they are involved in, but the higher level Masons well know about it and agree with that plan for the whole world. This is why the Masonic Lodge has lodges in just about every nation on earth, and recognizes all... religions as being equal, which is a mockery against Christ Jesus.

Do you call your Lodge leader by the title of 'Worshipful Master'?

Only Lord Jesus Christ is man's Worshipful Master. No man is to be worshiped, only GOD is to be worshiped, and that means through His Son Jesus Christ, our ONLY Mediator to The Father.

All of those things is what their design of Amillennial doctrine is designed to do, to create a one-world beast kingdom at the end of this world. That is why that false theory has to deny Christ's future "thousand years" reign of the future that only begins on the day of His future 2nd coming. Lucifer instead, and his servants that run today's occult fraternities, want to reign over the earth NOW.

This is unhinged insanity. You have completely lost your mind. I am sure there are lots of Post-trib Premills that are involved in Masonic lodges, so what you're saying here is just downright stupid and idiotic. They don't care what your end times view is.

Amills are true Christians who serve Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. This is slander. You should be ashamed of yourself for condemning true Christians like this. May God have mercy on your soul for doing that.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I believe this will be my last response to this issue.... not much more to offer.


1. The 7th Day Sabbath Typology (Millennial Rest)

• Many see human history as a “week” of 7,000 years:

• ~6,000 years of human labor and sin (6 “days” of work),
• followed by 1,000 years of rest with the Lord (the 7th “day” Sabbath).

• This idea echoes 2 Peter 3:8: “With the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
• Just as God rested on the 7th day after creation, so too will there be a global “rest” — a Sabbath millennium — in which Christ reigns and creation enjoys peace.

This is not taught anywhere in scripture. The context of 2 Peter 3:8 has to do with how long it's taking the Lord to come back (see verse 9) and has nothing to do with the duration of human history.

2. Repetition in Revelation Suggests Literal Intent

• As I mentioned earlier, Revelation 20 mentions "a thousand years" six times (vv. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7), which gives weight to the idea that it’s not symbolic.
• Symbolic numbers in Revelation are often expressed once with additional symbolic context. The repetition of "1000 years" without figurative language surrounding it argues for a literal duration.

Absolutely false. This is the weakest argument imaginable. The beast is referenced over 30 times in the book, but that doesn't make it a literal beast.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Rev_14:3 AndG2532 they sungG103 as it wereG5613 a newG2537 songG5603 beforeG1799 theG3588 throne,G2362 andG2532 beforeG1799 theG3588 fourG5064 beasts,G2226 andG2532 theG3588 elders:G4245 andG2532 no manG3762 couldG1410 learnG3129 that songG5603 butG1508 theG3588 hundred and forty and four thousand,G1540 G5062 G5064 G5505 which were redeemedG59 fromG575 theG3588 earth.G1093

Rev_21:16 AndG2532 theG3588 cityG4172 liethG2749 foursquare,G5068 andG2532 theG3588 lengthG3372 (G848) isG2076 as largeG5118 asG3745 theG3588 breadth:G4114 andG2532 he measuredG3354 theG3588 cityG4172 with theG3588 reed,G2563 twelveG1427 thousandG5505 (G1909) furlongs.G4712 TheG3588 lengthG3372 andG2532 theG3588 breadthG4114 andG2532 theG3588 heightG5311 of itG846 areG2076 equal.G2470


Yet when the number is only one single thousand of something or one thousand plus another number that's less than two thousand, the Greek word chilioi G5507 is used:


2Pe_3:8 But,G1161 beloved,G27 be not ignorantG2990 G3361 of thisG5124 one thing,G1520 thatG3754 oneG3391 dayG2250 is withG3844 the LordG2962 asG5613 a thousandG5507 years,G2094 andG2532 a thousandG5507 yearsG2094 asG5613 oneG3391 day.G2250

Rev_11:3 AndG2532 I will giveG1325 power unto myG3450 twoG1417 witnesses,G3144 andG2532 they shall prophesyG4395 a thousand two hundred and threescoreG5507 G1250 G1835 days,G2250 clothedG4016 in sackcloth.G4526

Rev_12:6 AndG2532 theG3588 womanG1135 fledG5343 intoG1519 theG3588 wilderness,G2048 whereG3699 she hathG2192 a placeG5117 preparedG2090 ofG575 God,G2316 thatG2443 they should feedG5142 herG846 thereG1563 a thousand two hundred and threescoreG5507 G1250 G1835 days.G2250

Rev_14:20 AndG2532 theG3588 winepressG3025 was troddenG3961 withoutG1854 theG3588 city,G4172 andG2532 bloodG129 cameG1831 out ofG1537 theG3588 winepress,G3025 even untoG891 theG3588 horseG2462 bridles,G5469 by the space ofG575 a thousand and six hundredG5507 G1812 furlongs.G4712

Rev_20:2 AndG2532 he laid hold onG2902 theG3588 dragon,G1404 that oldG744 serpent,G3789 whichG3739 isG2076 the Devil,G1228 andG2532 Satan,G4567 andG2532 boundG1210 himG846 a thousandG5507 years,G2094

Rev_20:3 AndG2532 castG906 himG846 intoG1519 theG3588 bottomless pit,G12 andG2532 shut him up,G2808 G846 andG2532 set a sealG4972 uponG1883 him,G846 thatG2443 he should deceiveG4105 theG3588 nationsG1484 noG3361 more,G2089 tillG891 theG3588 thousandG5507 yearsG2094 should be fulfilled:G5055 andG2532 afterG3326 thatG5023 heG846 mustG1163 be loosedG3089 a littleG3398 season.G5550

Rev_20:4 AndG2532 I sawG1492 thrones,G2362 andG2532 they satG2523 uponG1909 them,G846 andG2532 judgmentG2917 was givenG1325 unto them:G846 andG2532 I saw theG3588 soulsG5590 of them that were beheadedG3990 forG1223 theG3588 witnessG3141 of Jesus,G2424 andG2532 forG1223 theG3588 wordG3056 of God,G2316 andG2532 whichG3748 had notG3756 worshippedG4352 theG3588 beast,G2342 neitherG3777 hisG846 image,G1504 neitherG2532 G3756 had receivedG2983 his markG5480 uponG1909 theirG848 foreheads,G3359 orG2532 inG1909 theirG848 hands;G5495 andG2532 they livedG2198 andG2532 reignedG936 withG3326 ChristG5547 a thousandG5507 years.G2094

Rev_20:5 ButG1161 theG3588 restG3062 of theG3588 deadG3498 lived not againG326 G3756 untilG2193 theG3588 thousandG5507 yearsG2094 were finished.G5055 ThisG3778 is theG3588 firstG4413 resurrection.G386

Rev_20:6 BlessedG3107 andG2532 holyG40 is he that hathG2192 partG3313 inG1722 theG3588 firstG4413 resurrection:G386 onG1909 suchG5130 theG3588 secondG1208 deathG2288 hathG2192 noG3756 power,G1849 butG235 they shall beG2071 priestsG2409 of GodG2316 andG2532 of Christ,G5547 andG2532 shall reignG936 withG3326 himG846 a thousandG5507 years.G2094

Rev_20:7 AndG2532 whenG3752 theG3588 thousandG5507 yearsG2094 are expired,G5055 SatanG4567 shall be loosedG3089 out ofG1537 hisG846 prison,G5438

Mar 5:13 AndG2532 forthwithG2112 JesusG2424 gave them leave.G2010 G846 AndG2532 theG3588 uncleanG169 spiritsG4151 went out,G1831 andG2532 enteredG1525 intoG1519 theG3588 swine:G5519 andG2532 theG3588 herdG34 ran violentlyG3729 downG2596 a steep placeG2911 intoG1519 theG3588 sea,G2281 (they(G1161) wereG2258 aboutG5613 two thousand; )G1367 andG2532 were chokedG4155 inG1722 theG3588 sea.G2281

Here we have a Greek word G1367 dischilioi. "Dis" means two or twice and chilioi (G5507) means a thousand so this word means two thousand. Naturally then if there was one chilioi (G5507) it would be exactly a thousand just as it is in every occurrence of the word in the NT.


This is indisputable evidence that the thousand years is exactly a thousand years.



Rev_11:3 AndG2532 I will giveG1325 power unto myG3450 twoG1417 witnesses,G3144 andG2532 they shall prophesyG4395 a thousand two hundred and threescoreG5507 G1250 G1835 days,G2250 clothedG4016 in sackcloth.G4526

G5507 always means exactly one thousand like it does here. To mean more it needs to have more added to it. Here we have G5507 as exactly one thousand and then 260 added to that one thousand to form 1260. Guess what? If we removed the 260 we would have how many? Exactly one thousand, G5507.

So when we have G5507 alone, it is exactly one thousand. And when scripture speaks of "thousands" in the plural it uses chilias G5505 not G5507.

Rev_5:11 AndG2532 I beheld,G1492 andG2532 I heardG191 the voiceG5456 of manyG4183 angelsG32 round aboutG2943 theG3588 throneG2362 andG2532 theG3588 beastsG2226 andG2532 theG3588 elders:G4245 andG2532 theG3588 numberG706 of themG846 wasG2258 ten thousand times ten thousand,G3461 G3461 andG2532 thousands of thousands;G5505 G5505

If Revelation 20's thousand years was thousands of years like Amillennialism claims, the word needed would be chilias G5505 especially the double appearance of the word as found in Revelation 5:11, "thousands of thousands" which is truly an unknown amount. G5507 strictly means only one thousand and no more. It cannot mean 1001, nor an unknown number of thousands or millions etc.

I'll use an example to further explain the difference of the two words.

G5505 chilias is like a thousand dollar bill. There is just one in your hand but it's worth a thousand dollars and the word is written in the singular because of this.

G5507 chilioi (the Greek word found multiple times in Revelation 20) is like having one thousand dollar bills. That's worth the same exact amount, but it's a plural word because there is a thousand singles of something rather than one thing that equals a thousand. Imagine in your left hand a thousand dollar bill, and in your right hand a thousand one dollar bills. Same amount but the way each amount is represented is different. G5507 is plural in this sense, not that it means more than a thousand or multiples of thousands like 2000. Some Amill's will falsely claim G5507 is plural because it means an unknown amount but that shows ignorance of the Greek language and how numbers are represented.


Amillennialism will falsely claim that chilioi G5507 can have a symbolic meaning but that is false. It is never used in such a way in the Greek manuscripts. The Greek language doesn't have numbers like other languages have, as in non-alphabet characters. The language uses letters to form words that represent numbers. The only way to express and unknown amount is by using "thousands of thousands;G5505 G5505" but that is not used in Revelation 20.

In Greek if one wanted to say they had 1,000 of something, chilioi G5507 would be used. Revelation 20's "a thousand years" is exactly 1,000 years, not 999, not 1,001, not 2,000.

LOL at "indisputable evidence". What an absolute joke. You are not fooling me by pretending to be a Greek expert. I know that you are not. Yes, the word IS plural of unknown affinity because actual Greek experts like Strong's say so. I don't believe Strong was ignorant of the Greek language.




It's not a word used to represent an exact amount of time. It can represent 1000, 2000, 3000 or any amount of time. Just like how the word "thousand" is used figuratively in other verses like the ones that refer to God's promises to "a thousand generations" and God owning the cattle on "a thousand hills".

 

[Davidpt]

I wonder what Amills would say if someone asked them how God could speak of exactly a thousand of something using the Greek language. Maybe He can't?

Also, if the Amill version of a thousand is more than a thousand, can it also mean less than a thousand?

In the NT, in the KJV in this case, there is no exact phrase for 'one thousand'. Yet there is an exact phrase for 'two thousand', 'three thousand', 'four thousand', etc. It then begs the question, what then in the NT means one thousand? 'A thousand' of course. What else if not that? After all, it doesn't stand to reason that 'a thousand' can mean two thousand if two thousand is what means two thousand. Therefore, 'a thousand' has to mean 'one thousand' since it can't mean anything else.

And like I showed, it certainly can't mean two thousand if two thousand is what means two thousand. The same logic would have to be true pertaining to 'three thousand', so on and so on. Which kind of addresses your point about whether or not God can speak of exactly a thousand of something using the Greek language? Of course He can though Amils likely disagree, therefore, making something that is logical something impossible for God to do.

 

[Marty fox]

Can we never imply anything from scripture? If we're not told something explicitly then it can't be true? You agree that Abaddon is Satan and he is the king of the demonic locusts. So, it seems clear that he is in the bottomless pit when they are. Why would he not take the opportunity to come out when it is opened? Of course he would.

If you can't believe anything unless it is explicitly spelled out to you, then I just think that's a strange approach to interpreting scripture.


I am going by what the scriptures say. Scripture needs to be spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:9-16). We're not always going to have things explicitly spelled out to us. I see no reason to think that Satan would remain in the bottomless pit if it is opened. I think it goes without saying that he would also come out at that time, so we don't need that to be spelled out to us.

Because only the locus are called out and allowed to come out and only for a purpose. Remember the bottomless pit is actually a spiritual condition and not a literal place

 

[Marty fox]

Marty, I believe the thousand years is symbolically time given the church on earth to proclaim the gospel to mankind. It coincides with Satan's binding because the Kingdom of God is being built then, as the gospel is proclaimed, and many hear the gospel and believe, and are assured that they too, like Christ will live forevermore. All who believe by faith have been set free from bondage to fear of death that Satan, before the advent of Christ, had power to hold them in. This is how and why Satan was bound by the power of Christ's death and resurrection. If Christ had not proven that He alone possesses power over death by resurrecting from the dead, proclaiming the gospel that brings eternal life to all who believe Christ would be without hope. How could believers be set free from bondage to fear of death if Christ was not risen?

When this symbolic time is finished the Kingdom of God in heaven will be complete. IMO there will be no more people left alive on this earth to be saved once the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven is complete when the thousand years expire. Once the thousand years have ended, Satan will once again be set free for a little season. Since all who shall be saved will have everlasting life in Christ, Satan will once again have power to hold unbelieving mankind in bondage to fear of death. Believers still alive during Satan's little season will not fear death because we have the power of Christ through His living Spirit within us. After Satan has his little season, the last/final/end of days shall be. Christ will return to gather His faithful saints still alive at His second coming, with saints who have died to meet with Him in the air. Then wrath from the Almighty shall come down as fire from heaven upon all the earth to burn up that belong to the old earth and make all things new again. Then Christ with His Bride, the Church, His saints with immortality, and incorruptibility will come down with Christ to the new heaven and new earth, where we shall be with Christ forevermore.

Yes I fully agree with your view but by point was that revelation chapter 20 verse 7 verse 5 and verse 12 show that the reigning and binding ends at different time.

Read the whole chapter again and you will see that verse 5 is fulfilled in verse 12 which is after satans release and little season in verses 7-10.

The Holy Spirit works through the church and this holds satan back but if there’s no one else who will receive the gospel then satan is released but that doesn’t mean that the church stops reining