The Gospel of Reconciliation

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Robert Pate

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The sinners Christ died for are reconciled to God and saved by Christs Life Rom 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

So no sinner Christ died for can die in their sins in unbelief, if you deny that, you are against Christ.
Jesus is Lord, he is, "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:6. This means that he has defeated sin, death and the devil and is the savior of the whole world, John 3:17. Your Calvinist God will not let you believe that.
 

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UPDATE ::::

God is not a Calvinist
Jesus is not a Calvinist
Paul The Apostle is not a Calvinist
Calvinism : is not Christianity
The Bible does not teach Calvinism
 

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And that is because they didnt "BELIEVE".
That is a CHOICE.... = FREE WILL.

Jesus said...>"IF... you do not believe in me, (that i am the Messiah) you will die in your SINS">.

Not because God pre-destined them to not be chosen to believe, but because they refused to believe.

This is "sinning willfully", as you find in Hebrews 10:26.

This is "trodding underfoot the blood of Jesus", and "doing despite to the Spirit of Grace" as you find in Hebrews 10 and Hebrews 6.

SEE..... when you choose to reject Christ, then "there remains no more sacrifice for your sin"... as you have rejected the SACRIFICE who IS... JESUS.
Again the reason why they dont believe is because Christ didnt die for them.
 

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Jesus is Lord, he is, "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:6. This means that he has defeated sin, death and the devil and is the savior of the whole world, John 3:17. Your Calvinist God will not let you believe that.
He is King and Lord, thats why nobody He died for can go to hell in their sins and must be saved. You teach against Christ
 

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Again the reason why they dont believe is because Christ didnt die for them.

The Cross of Christ is proof that Jesus died for everyone, 2000 Yrs ago.

Calvinism proves that the Devil is alive and well able.... to deceive people so that they do not understand The Cross of Christ.

You ONLY preach Calvinism, because he is your cult leader.

Christians Preach Christ Crucified, only.

Christ is not a Calvinist.
 

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Didnt you read the post response ?
I did.

Maybe I didn't understand what you were saying.

God reconciled the world to Himself, and now He asks/urges us, you be reconciled to God. Passive voice, I get that, God is the one who does it.

Romans 5:7-11 LITV
7) For with difficulty one will die for a just one, (for perhaps one even dares to die for the sake of the good one),
8) but God commends His love to us in this, that we being yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9) Much more then, being justified now by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath through Him.
10) For if while being enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life;
11) and not only so, but also glorying in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we now received the reconciliation.

We were reconciled to God, and now we have received the reconciliation.

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The Cross of Christ is proof that Jesus died for everyone, 2000 Yrs ago.

Calvinism proves that the Devil is alive and well able.... to deceive people so that they do not understand The Cross of Christ.

You ONLY preach Calvinism, because he is your cult leader.

Christians Preach Christ Crucified, only.

Christ is not a Calvinist.
Again the reason why some dont believe in Jesus is because they were not of His Sheep that He died for Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

They cant believe because they are condemned for the sins Christ didnt die for.
 

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There are several scriptures that tell us that Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world.
Those whom Christ atoned for, died for, are reconciled to God by His atoning Death and they are saved by His Life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now they cant die in their sins in unbelief. Now are you telling me nobody is going to die in their sins in unbelief ?
 

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Again the reason why some dont believe in Jesus is because they were not of His Sheep that He died for Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

They cant believe because they are condemned for the sins Christ didnt die for.
You contradict yourself and what the Bible says.

The Bible clearly says, "God so loved the world (everyone) that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16. When you read that your Calvinist God goes berserk and tries to convince you that it is a lie. So far he is doing a pretty good Job.
 

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You contradict yourself and what the Bible says.

The Bible clearly says, "God so loved the world (everyone) that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16. When you read that your Calvinist God goes berserk and tries to convince you that it is a lie. So far he is doing a pretty good Job.
Those whom God loved and Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death and are saved by His Life, they cant die in their sins, impossible.
 

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Those whom God loved and Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death and are saved by His Life, they cant die in their sins, impossible.
Jesus has reconciled the whole world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19. You have been blinded again by your Calvinist God. "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:18. Your Calvinist God is going berserk again because I posted that. I can hear him say... "That's a lie, that's a lie, that's a lie, that's a lie. Why don't you kick him in the ass and tell him that he is the liar?
 

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We cannot reconcile ourselves to God by works, laws or religion. The Catholic church cannot reconcile anyone to God. If you believe that it can, you have been deceived. Many believe that they can reconcile themselves to God by keeping the commandments. Others believe that they can reconcile themselves to God by living holy lives. If you believe that you can do something or become something that will reconcile you into God, you have been deceived.

You are not understanding the biblical narrative. Being reconciled to God is not just about salvation...its about an intimate relationship with God. if you think you can have that kind of relationship with God without holiness, obedience, devotion and a full surrender of the carnal mindset...then it is you who is deceived.
Why is this so? It is so, because we have ALREADY been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ. Multitudes are trying to do in their flesh through works, laws and religion what God has ALREADY done in Jesus Christ.

What Jesus accomplished is now made available in Christ. I stress this...IN Christ. Very few will be able to enter into Christ. The way is very narrow indeed.

We have ACCESS into God's marvelous light through Christ.

Does that mean that all who are unable to enter in are doomed to hell? Of course not. There are more possibilities than that amomg the meek, the weak and the rebellious ones.
"God was in Christ reconciling us and the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the word of reconciliation" 2 Corinthians 5:19.

Before we were ever born Jesus had ALREADY reconciled us and the world unto God.

Historically speaking Jesus had already come. But this is confusing you. You are mimicking the text but without understanding it.
This is the good news of the Gospel. God now stands before us with open arms saying... "Though your sins be as scarlet, they can be as white as snow" Isaiah 1:18. God offers reconciliation to everyone that wants it.

No. To everyone that meets the criteria. God chooses who He will be intimate with...not men. So you are putting yourself in the driver's seat...the very thing you say men can't do.

You say we can't do anything to enter into Christ and His life. Well, we can repent...but we can't translate ourselves into Christ. Only God can accept us and translate us into Himself.

In your scheme you think we have control over God and His benefits by simply naming and claiming. Well, that is a legalistic attitude that does NOT produce a Christ-like walk. That should be obvious. Our destiny is not in our hands to dictate how saved we are or will be.
If you don't want to be reconciled unto God, you don't have to. God is not going to threaten you. It's your choice.

It's God's choice. Our role is to repent, seek, ask and knock. God remains free to respond or not as He deems fit. Remember that God is in control...not you. (it's hard to do that, I understand)
Those that have rejected God's offer of reconciliation through Jesus Christ and are trying to reconcile themselves to God through works, laws and religion are still enemies with God.

Not so much. If we are not fit for intimacy with God, we can still be saved as a guest in the great wedding feast of the Lamb. You are making things so black and white...in order to prove that you are on the good side and others are on the bad side. God has promised salvation to the meek, the righteous, the broken-hearted. But what does that have to do with us in the spoiled Western world? We either want to be the star in the narrative or nothing at all.
When they die in their sins, they will go into the judgment and be judged and condemned. God has done all that he can do to save us and reconcile us to himself through Jesus Christ. All that we have to do to be saved is to accept our reconciler, who is Jesus Christ and God's offer to be reconciled.
What about the many Christians who believe they are saved but still die in their sins? Don't worry about those who are not of the faith. Instead fear the Lord and depart from evil....whether physical, soulish, or spiritual.
 
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Jesus has reconciled the whole world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19. You have been blinded again by your Calvinist God. "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:18. Your Calvinist God is going berserk again because I posted that. I can hear him say... "That's a lie, that's a lie, that's a lie, that's a lie. Why don't you kick him in the ass and tell him that he is the liar?
Those whom God loved and Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death and are saved by His Life, they cant die in their sins, impossible.
 

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Those whom God loved and Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death and are saved by His Life, they cant die in their sins, impossible.
Are you saying that a dog cannot return to its vomit? I think you are missing the point of all the writings in the bible. We have free agency as long as we live in these mortal bodies. There is a judgment coming based on what we did with what we have been given. Being smug at this time will prove to have been a very foolish stance on that day. (But who nowadays has any wisdom?) :rolleyes:
 
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Yes, Jesus knew who was going to betray Him..
So, did Jesus CAUSE Judas to betray Him? ???
Just my thoughts...Jesus knew from the beginning that Judas was going to betray him...he chose him because it was to fulfil the will of God?

I don’t believe God caused Judas to betray Jesus...he was chosen by God as the vessel he would use to fulfil his will.

Judas had a choice...he chose to betray Jesus....as for God causing Judas to betray Jesus....I wouldn’t even entertain the idea,

We all have a choice.and God knows what our choice will be.

God uses us for his purpose and his plan, to bring about his will, he does it via the Holy Spirit.

As I say...just my thoughts on the matter.
 

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26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

Before we are born, The all Knowing God (God's Foreknowledge).. KNOWS, who is going to NEVER BELIEVE In Christ.

They CHOSE it.

God KNEW this, about them, before they were born on earth.

God didnt CAUSE this.... He Fore-KNEW IT...

Its just like your issue, @brightfame52
God KNOWS you are going to continue to worship Calvin, as you preach Calvin, Not Christ.
God KNEW you would, before you were born.
God KNEW you would become a victim of Calvinism, before you were BORN.

God FOR-KNEW IT.... @brightfame52 .... (Foreknowledge) be He didnt CAUSE IT.

The CAUSE of your Cult Theology = is because someone TAUGHT YOU to believe Calvin's Lies.
And GOD KNEW you would, learn them, and preach Calvin's Lies, before you were born.

Do not blame God for your Calvinism.
He didnt' cause it.
But God KNEW YOU WOULD BECOME Calvin's VICTIM..... BEFORE, you were born.

= God's Foreknowledge.
 
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Just my thoughts...Jesus knew from the beginning that Judas was going to betray him...he chose him because it was to fulfil the will of God?

Jesus didn't choose Judas to be a "devil".
He was one already, when Jesus chose Him

Jesus Said, "i have chosen you, and one of you is a Devil".


Jesus was born, when it was time for Him to come, according to bible prophecy.
All the parts regarding this amazing situation, were in place.
You had Bethlehem... where Christ was born.. .and that was OT Prophecy.. and this name means "House of Bread" and Jesus is the Bread of Life, the Living Bread come down from Heaven.

Psalms 22 says that Jesus will have His hands and feet "pierced"... This whole Psalm describes Jesus's Crucifixion.and it was written 600 yrs before Jesus was born..

So, the Bible is the Revelation of what God has done, is doing, and will do next.
And Judas was born for the situation He fulfilled as his life and death.
 
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