The first horseman of the Apocalypse

[Zao is life]

Question: Who was the first 'twister' in Scripture?

Answer : The Serpent in the Garden

LOL. That's what I meant. In Africa where I grew up the most dangerous ones are in the trees, dangling from the branches waiting for you to walk by without looking up.

 

[David in NJ]

LOL. That's what I meant. In Africa where I grew up the most dangerous ones are in the trees, dangling from the branches waiting for you to walk by without looking up.

Black Mamba or which, in that area is most deadly?

 

[Truth7t7]

R U SURE -
Scripture cannot lie.

The Scripture clearly denotes other.

It's your "opinion" scripture denotes otherwise, I strongly disagree

 

[David in NJ]

LOL. That's what I meant. In Africa where I grew up the most dangerous ones are in the trees, dangling from the branches waiting for you to walk by without looking up.

i thought you meant Judas who hung himself - see how love works when we misunderstand each other.

i am sure you noticed my need in Christ - 'patience' - now you know what to pray for me -

C eye make myself vulnerable - "confess your sins to one another that you may pray for one another" - forgiveness & love in action

 

[David in NJ]

It's your "opinion" scripture denotes otherwise, I strongly disagree

Ok - if you will, please read over Rev 20 - and pray and ask the Lord - do not put your trust in men

thank you

 

[Zao is life]

Black Mamba or which, in that area is most deadly?

The one I was thinking about is called simply "Boomslang" or "tree snake"

 

[Zao is life]

Black Mamba or which, in that area is most deadly?

There are a few that are deadly. Black Mamba being one of them.

 

[Truth7t7]

Ok - if you will, please read over Rev 20 - and pray and ask the Lord - do not put your trust in men

thank you

I have read Revelation 20 my entire 43 years in the Lords saving grace upon my life

No Millennial Kingdom on this earth exist

The first resurrection seen will take place at the second coming on the last day at the final judgement, (The End)

It's my prayer and admonition to you

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

 

[David in NJ]

The one I was thinking about is called simply "Boomslang" or "tree snake"

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did u c my reply - post #244

 

[David in NJ]

I have read Revelation 20 my entire 43 years in the Lords saving grace upon my life

No Millennial Kingdom on this earth exist

The first resurrection seen will take place at the second coming on the last day at the final judgement, (The End)

It's my prayer and admonition to you

So your praying for me to reject the Lord's clear instruction...........

i should believe you saying "there is no Thousand Year Reign" and there is no "Second Death" and there is not the Second resurrection at the End of the Thousand Year Period which is CLEARLY stated in Rev 20.

So clear a child can understand - OH, maybe that's it then..........

 

[Zao is life]

i thought you meant Judas who hung himself - see how love works when we misunderstand each other.

i am sure you noticed my need in Christ - 'patience' - now you know what to pray for me -

C eye make myself vulnerable - "confess your sins to one another that you may pray for one another" - forgiveness & love in action

God bless you brother.

By the way, it's still a good uintended analogy. Judas and the boomslang (translates as "tree snake"). He hung himself (probably in a tree?) when he had already bitten.

 

[Zao is life]

did u c my reply - post #244

Just replied. Thanks :)

 

[Truth7t7]

So your praying for me to reject the Lord's clear instruction...........

i should believe you saying "there is no Thousand Year Reign" and there is no "Second Death" and there is not the Second resurrection at the End of the Thousand Year Period which is CLEARLY stated in Rev 20.

So clear a child can understand - OH, maybe that's it then..........

You claim I deny the second death, this is "false"

The (Second Death) is the second resurrection of the wicked to final judgement, that takes place on the last day at the second coming

I would request you stop the misrepresentation of myself, you have clearly been shown my belief below several times

There is one time of resurrection for all, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second) death resurrection has no power.

1.) (First) Resurrection To Life
2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[Zao is life]

So your praying for me to reject the Lord's clear instruction...........

i should believe you saying "there is no Thousand Year Reign" and there is no "Second Death" and there is not the Second resurrection at the End of the Thousand Year Period which is CLEARLY stated in Rev 20.

So clear a child can understand - OH, maybe that's it then..........

As I see it, the prophetic statements made by the apostles were made under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. These all omit mention of a thousand years (at least explicit mention of it, as in the Revelation), although Peter, speaking under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit when writing about the beginning of creation and its final end, was inspired to say, "With the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day."

John never wrote the Revelation merely under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit - he received it direct from Christ Himself:

"A Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to Him to declare to His servants things which must shortly come to pass. And He signified it by sending His angel to His servant John." Revelation 1:1

Jesus has the final say. The book of Revelation is the final say, and in it, the Lord does not contradict Peter's statements and Paul's statements regarding the coming of Christ and the resurrection - He complements and completes it.

Complement: To complete, to bring to perfection, to make whole.

But Truth7t7 and all Amillennialists want to give the apostles the final say, instead of Jesus. They want the Apostles' statements to be the final book of the Bible.

 

[Truth7t7]

But Truth7t7 and all Amillennialists want to give the apostles the final say, instead of Jesus.

Your claim is in left field and in error

 

[Zao is life]

Your claim is in left field and in error

That's why I don't argue with you any longer about the millennium. You're arguing with Jesus about it.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to Him to declare to His servants things which must shortly come to pass. And He signified it by sending His angel to His servant John (Revelation 1:1).

 

[David in NJ]

As I see it, the prophetic statements made by the apostles were made under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. These all omit mention of a thousand years, although Peter, speaking under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit when writing about the beginning of creation and its final end, was inspired to say, "With the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day."

John never wrote the Revelation merely under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit - he received it direct from Christ Himself:

"A Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to Him to declare to His servants things which must shortly come to pass. And He signified it by sending His angel to His servant John." Revelation 1:1

Jesus has the final say. The book of Revelation is the final say, and in it, the Lord does not contradict Peter's statements and Paul's statements regarding the coming of Christ and the resurrection - He complements and completes it.

Complement: To complete, to bring to perfection, to make whole.

But Truth7t7 and all Amillennialists want to give the apostles the final say, instead of Jesus.

You said:
Jesus has the final say. The book of Revelation is the final say, and in it, the Lord does not contradict Peter's statements and Paul's statements regarding the coming of Christ and the resurrection - He complements and completes it.

This is the MESSAGE i am trying to convey when i say Scripture cannot lie and is self correcting from man's 'adding to and taking'.

You said it beautifully.

 

[David in NJ]

That's why I don't argue with you any longer about the millennium. You're arguing with Jesus about it.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to Him to declare to His servants things which must shortly come to pass. And He signified it by sending His angel to His servant John (Revelation 1:1).

and now you know why i lost patience in the past, to another, and said: 'If you add or take away you are lying.'

now, the hockey player has simmered down - i leave it at His Feet, ask for forgiveness and let Him do the correcting.

 

[Zao is life]

and now you know why i lost patience in the past, to another, and said: 'If you add or take away you are lying.'

now, the hockey player has simmered down - i leave it at His Feet, ask for forgiveness and let Him do the correcting.

I was about to add this to my last post to @Truth7t7, but it's true for all of us:

@Truth7t7 I do not mean that I believe Jesus is angry with you for telling Him what He means in His Revelation (instead of letting Jesus tell you what He means). Jesus understands. He understands you better than you understand yourself. And He has more patience with all of us than we give Him credit for. It's not a sin to have a faulty understanding of prophecy. The apostles all did before the Holy Spirit was given them to enlighten their understanding in a way far more complete than we have today. But they still did not know all things - this is why Jesus has the final say.

 

[Truth7t7]

@Truth7t7 I do not mean that I believe Jesus is angry with you for telling Him what He means in His Revelation (instead of letting Jesus tell you what He means). Jesus understands. He understands you better than you understand yourself. And He has more patience with all of us than we give Him credit for. It's not a sin to have a faulty understanding of prophecy. The apostles all did before the Holy Spirit was given them to enlighten their understanding in a way far more complete than we have today. But they still did not know all things - this is why Jesus has the final say.

Your claim is in left field and in error

 

[Zao is life]

Your claim is in left field and in error

LOL.

I wonder how many times you've typed "and in error". I've seen you do it hundreds of times already, and I'm still "new" here.