True.
John tells us that we re to ask forgiveness for our sins and Jesus, our advocate with our Father, will intercede for us. 1 John 1 and 2
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John tells us that we re to ask forgiveness for our sins and Jesus, our advocate with our Father, will intercede for us. 1 John 1 and 2
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INRI ~ * June 2
Colossians 2:13-14 NIV; He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.
Saint Paul wrote this Epistle, a Letter, to the Church at Colossae. I’ve heard that this Epistle is a shorter version of the Book of Romans. I really like the Epistle to Rome because it is so deep; but my nature is to prefer things short and sweet. After the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Church expanded so quickly; why wouldn’t it? Saints Peter, James and John taught the Church at Israel; but Saint Paul was sent to the Gentiles. As a Missionary, Paul was always building Churches, so of course he taught much about being Saved. There has been NO greater a Theologian than him, and volumes can be written about the things he taught the Church; but there came a day he determined to know only Jesus Christ and him Crucified…
He taught us about how we are Legally indebted to God for breaking his Heavenly Commandments, because his Kingdom includes all the World. When we break worldly Laws, there is a Fine to pay; and this is a Debt. ~ Are you indebted to God? Have you told a Lie? What do you call people who Lie? Thou shalt not Lie. God Charges you for the Crime of Lying. You say “Then he’s got to Charge everyone if he’s going to Charge me!”. Have you ever Stolen? What do you call people that Steal? God could probably Charge everyone with this too. The Bible says if you have broken one Commandment, you are Guilty of breaking all of them; Paul says the Charges against us, have already Condemned us. Being Condemned, you will go to Hell; does this bother you? ~ What we need is to have all of our Charges taken away…
Do you want to know what Charge was nailed to the Cross of Christ? Jesus was tried by Rome, yet Pilate couldn’t find anything wrong with him. But to appease the Sanhedrin, he had Jesus Crucified anyway. Rome always nailed a plank to their Crosses, with the Criminal’s Accusation written on it. At the top of Jesus’ Cross was written in Latin “Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews”. If you’ve seen paintings of Jesus on the Cross with a sign that reads “INRI”, this is shorthand for the accusation written on his plank. ~ For God so Loved the world he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal Life. Jesus Kept God’s Law all of his life; this is why Caesar could only nail a TRUE accusation to his Cross. As a Substitute, he will Accept your Charges and take the Punishment you deserve; by bleeding to death on the Cross. He was buried but arose from the grave, ascending to the right hand of God his Father. We’re Saved by Grace through Faith without Works, lest we should boast. Repent of your Sins, Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord God; then join an Evangelical Church. ~ Praise God he allows me to nail MY Charges to HIS Cross; please don’t read them while you’re there. What might you nail to his Cross if you could get rid of it? Nail it to the Cross, so Jesus can be Charged with it instead of you…
1st Peter 2:24 NIV; “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”
Colossians 2:13-14 NIV; He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.
Saint Paul wrote this Epistle, a Letter, to the Church at Colossae. I’ve heard that this Epistle is a shorter version of the Book of Romans. I really like the Epistle to Rome because it is so deep; but my nature is to prefer things short and sweet. After the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Church expanded so quickly; why wouldn’t it? Saints Peter, James and John taught the Church at Israel; but Saint Paul was sent to the Gentiles. As a Missionary, Paul was always building Churches, so of course he taught much about being Saved. There has been NO greater a Theologian than him, and volumes can be written about the things he taught the Church; but there came a day he determined to know only Jesus Christ and him Crucified…
He taught us about how we are Legally indebted to God for breaking his Heavenly Commandments, because his Kingdom includes all the World. When we break worldly Laws, there is a Fine to pay; and this is a Debt. ~ Are you indebted to God? Have you told a Lie? What do you call people who Lie? Thou shalt not Lie. God Charges you for the Crime of Lying. You say “Then he’s got to Charge everyone if he’s going to Charge me!”. Have you ever Stolen? What do you call people that Steal? God could probably Charge everyone with this too. The Bible says if you have broken one Commandment, you are Guilty of breaking all of them; Paul says the Charges against us, have already Condemned us. Being Condemned, you will go to Hell; does this bother you? ~ What we need is to have all of our Charges taken away…
Do you want to know what Charge was nailed to the Cross of Christ? Jesus was tried by Rome, yet Pilate couldn’t find anything wrong with him. But to appease the Sanhedrin, he had Jesus Crucified anyway. Rome always nailed a plank to their Crosses, with the Criminal’s Accusation written on it. At the top of Jesus’ Cross was written in Latin “Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews”. If you’ve seen paintings of Jesus on the Cross with a sign that reads “INRI”, this is shorthand for the accusation written on his plank. ~ For God so Loved the world he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal Life. Jesus Kept God’s Law all of his life; this is why Caesar could only nail a TRUE accusation to his Cross. As a Substitute, he will Accept your Charges and take the Punishment you deserve; by bleeding to death on the Cross. He was buried but arose from the grave, ascending to the right hand of God his Father. We’re Saved by Grace through Faith without Works, lest we should boast. Repent of your Sins, Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord God; then join an Evangelical Church. ~ Praise God he allows me to nail MY Charges to HIS Cross; please don’t read them while you’re there. What might you nail to his Cross if you could get rid of it? Nail it to the Cross, so Jesus can be Charged with it instead of you…
1st Peter 2:24 NIV; “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”
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We eat bread and carbs.
But many are getting a reaction to the carbs.
Poor Italians,,,,we have to start cutting down !!
Yes, maybe it's time for Jesus to return!
Plenty of pizza in heaven!
Great post ! Perfect in every way.
Welcome to the forum...we need Strong Christians such as yourself !
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Ritajanice
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Reading The doctrine of grace...does not birth one’s spirit .
Reading any doctrine for that matter does not birth our spirit.
It was because of the death and resurrection Of Jesus..that we can become Born Again.
We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.
Reading any doctrine for that matter does not birth our spirit.
It was because of the death and resurrection Of Jesus..that we can become Born Again.
We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.
What was wrong with the verses I gave you? 2 Pt 2.1 clearly states that the false teachers have had their sins paid for. The sins ARE paid for and they ARE unbelievers. This nonsense that Christ potentially paid for the unbelievers' sins is in clear contradiction to 2 Pt 2.1 and 1 John 2.2, and many others.
Sins only deal with this earthly life. Notice when God punished Adam, Eve, and the serpent for their sin, they had no eternal consequences. Once we leave this life, sins are longer an issue. Sins will not be brought up at the Rewards Ceremony (aka Judgment seat of Christ, a very poor translation). Look at the Great White Throne in Revelation, the word sin does not appear. This is a fairly basic truth of Scripture. I am a bit surprised you are having difficultly with it.
Notice that the unbelieving false teachers have been bought (redeemed), not potentially bought. see 2 Pt2.1k and 1 John 2.2 see also 2 Cor 5.19. There are literally hundreds of verses that teach this dogmatically. Show me the sins at the Judgment seat of Christ or at the Great White Throne.
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I notice Brother; and thanks for the Kindness I see on this Forum. Please read my Gospel Tract, I respond to this Objection in it. Jesus Purchased Adamic Federal Headship over them; he became their Despot, their Master...
The Golgatha Purchase ~ * October 27
2nd Peter 2:1 KJV; But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
I’ve recently been debating with an Atheist who uses Slavery as a reason to NOT believe in the God of the Bible. I told him about the Voluntary Servitude the Bible endorses, but he insists on debating about God endorsing Involuntary Servitude; citing Leviticus 25. I said, “I see what you are saying; you're drawing a distinction between the acceptable Servitude of a Jew to a Jew, and the unacceptable Slavery of Gentiles to a Jew. May I suggest that these Verses are a Type for the New Testament; If Israel were not permitted to buy people, then Peter couldn’t have said Jesus bought the Heretics.” The Lord Jesus Christ couldn’t have Purchased the World, if it were not legal for Jews to purchase Gentiles; and be their Sovereign…
If it were illegal for Jews to own Slaves, the Jewish Jesus Christ wouldn't have been able to buy the World from Satan; who gained Dominion from Adam, through the Fall. It is like the Louisiana Purchase; Dominion over the Land and the People was purchased. ~ But you Object, “What’s all this Slavery guff? I’ve never been a Slave”. When you Sin, you’re a Slave to Sin and Satan; have you ever told a Lie? What do YOU call people who Lie to you? If you’ve ever found yourself compelled to tell a Lie and you couldn’t help yourself, you are a Slave to Sin and Satan; or you were. You’re still a Slave to Sin but now you are Christ’s Slave as he paid for his Kingdom with his Blood. Your Lies used to deliver you out of trouble but now that you have a new Master, they bring you under his Judgment. As God Incarnate, the Son of God owns you; but through the 'Golgatha Purchase', the Human Jesus Christ bought All of Humanity. ~ If the Bible is true, then you are the Slave of Christ; awaiting either swift destruction; or Forgiveness of Sin...
Forgiveness of Sins is found only in one Name under heaven. ~ For God so loved the World he gave us his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not swiftly perish, but have everlasting Life. Jesus Christ bore the Sin of the world while dying on a Cross, to pay the Death Penalty God requires for our Trespasses and Sins; but he arose from the Grave to prepare a place for us in Heaven to be with him. We’re Saved by the Gracious Forgiveness of God, through Faith in Jesus Christ and what HE'S done for us; instead of anything we could ever do for ourselves. Repent of your Sins, Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord God, and become his Voluntary Servant at a Bible loving Church. ~ Sinners are Involuntary Servants of Jesus Christ, as they choose their Sin over their Righteous Master; remaining Voluntary Slaves to Sin…
1st Corinthians 7:22-23; KJV; For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord's freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ's slave. You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings.
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Please quote Scripture.
You believe the saved can sin and have no eternal consequences on their salvation?
If that's your belief, you believe in eternal security. A doctrine that I believe is not taught in the Bible.
Can you quote some scriptures that teach individual sin has no eternal consequences on the sinners soul?
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Great post ! Perfect in every way.
Welcome to the forum...we need Strong Christians such as yourself !
The fiery trials are coming my friend . REMEMBER WHO SAVED US and let none take a knee to interfaith and its false love lie .
Using the literal, grammatical, contextual, cultural method of interpretation, I would say absolutely. Using the interpretive method you use, no. We don't have different interpretations, but we have radically different interpretation methods.
I can tell you do not read a lot of theology. Since sin is only related to this earthly existence it has no eternal consequences.
Don't be lazy. Look up the verses I have provided for anyone. ALL SINS HAVE BEEN PAID FOR.
Agreed.
But I'm starting to see that Christianity itself is being watered down.
I think this is much worse than interfaith....
We MUST uphold Christian value and doctrine and not allow them to become trampled upon.
Adam's sin seperated Him from God.
How could that not have eternal consequences?
Jesus had to die on the cross because of Adam's sin.
If Jesus had not, what would have happened to Adam?
You use the literal method of interpretation.
Therefore that method will not allow Scripture to be taken figuratively.
What do you make of this verse Kuwn?
Is it literal?
John 3:36
36“He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
Sounds VERY literal to me.
Jesus told us that sin has ETERNAL consequences:
Matthew 7:19
19“Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:21
21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father,
We have to obey and do the will of the Father HERE ON EARTH...
IF we want to spend eternity IN HEAVEN.
All sins have been paid for IF we are sorry for them and IF we ask forgiveness.
Don't be lazy... (and it would be nice if you treated a member well that treats you well).
look up 1 John chapters 1 and 2
What does this verse have to do with a literal interpretative method? Try to answer this question without posing another question. Anyone can ask questions all day, but to make propositional statements takes a lot of studying the Word.
The only eternal consequences that unbelievers will ever experience is if they reject God's offer of salvation.
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