The Coming Great Apostasy

[bbyrd009]

Do you think Eternal means forever, Eb?

Let's take that from the Lord's perspective, since the last thing I am ever going to do is give you an actual answer
For our God is a consuming fire. Heb. 12:29.
Being God that He is, only His Fire is Eternal.
Therefore, when Jesus returns in flaming fire, that Fire is Eternal and unquenchable, and shall burn to death everyone who is unsaved, as well as the entire surface of the earth, aka "the lake of fire".
See 2 Peter 3:10

Since all of that which is burned by God's Fire, it all will be burned out, and eventually shall cease to burn.
It's sort of like the flame of a "Welder's Torch" being applied to a napkin. Once it is ignited, of itself it will burn up, but the flames of the napkin will go out, for nothing left burn. However the flame of the Welder's torch remains burning.

So, sorry, is that a yes or a no? In your perspective, if you would

There is only One Immortal

Can you rectify your pov with that v, ty

Strong's Greek: 166. αἰώνιος (aiónios) -- agelong, eternal
"
[166 (aiṓnios) does not focus on the future per se, but rather on the quality of the age (165 /aiṓn) it relates to. Thus believers live in "eternal (166 /aiṓnios) life" right now, experiencing this quality of God's life now as a present possession. (Note the Gk presenttense of having eternal life in Jn 3:36, 5:24, 6:47; cf. Ro 6:23.)]"

See 165, aion (eon)

I answered your question. Ok actually I came up with another deflection, sucker, how do you like me now. Here's another one in case you didn't get the hint, see how I'm using the same words you did and everything!
2Thes. 1[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Since Jesus is God the Son, and Eternal/Immortal, note my most excellent and clear explanation of your obvious confusion on the matter, right here, see, "eternal/Immortal," right out of the Book prolly, (and pls insert "return" for "be revealed" up there in that Scripture v that has nothing to do with the subject while you're at it)
The fire of God is Eternal, as God is Eternal, as my obfuscation is eternal.

God is also Immortal, but the question was
"do you believe that 'Eternal' means 'forever'?"
which I understand why you don't want to answer ok, no prob

Eternity, like Eon, has an ending, as the Word Study makes obv...lol, why am I saying this again lol
Bye

Oh gee well if you're gonna get all huffy then fu pal, I'll take the high ground! All I gotta do is ignore everything in that post except "bye," woo-hoo!

 

[bbyrd009]

and I guess now I'm the one being offensive right

 

[Earburner]

I guess I would take that more seriously if you had not already ignored the only evidence I recollect being presented on the matter, or if you had presented some of yours on the same subject without deflecting, Eb. So eternity means "forever" to you then, ok by me bro
gotcha Eb, ty, surely Scripture has gone to some lengths to clarify the concept in the many ignored refs I gave so that all may find what they seek. Have a nice day
There is only One Immortal
God is from eternity to eternity
It is appointed for a man to live once
etc

I get it, according to YOUR bible version: God lives from one eternity to the next.
What is it that you are trying to make out of the word eternity?
I see that He was Eternal before the world, and is Eternal after this world!! God is Forever!
Now, is God Himself Eternal, or is He not?

The KJV:
Heb. 9[26] For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
[27] And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
> IOWs, in the time of Adam, God appointed men to die!
> But then finally, the judgment CAME, and it was THIS:
[28] So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
> See John 3:18 for the details of that judgment.

 

[bbyrd009]

I get it, according to YOUR bible version: God lives from one eternity to the next.
What is it that you are trying to make out of the word eternity?

perhaps a witness will show up, no offense but you seem to be deliberately making jokes now at my expense? ta till then.

 

[Earburner]

perhaps a witness will show up

You'll have to give a little more detail, on what you mean by "witness".
Other than John the Baptist and Jesus, who already did show up, there will be no others, that were prophetically foretold!

 

[Keraz]

Pre-Trb was around centuries before Darby,

Just a shame that a pre-tribulation rapture cannot be found in the Bible.

 

[Earburner]

Just a shame that a pre-tribulation rapture cannot be found in the Bible.

Yep! As I always say:
"There can always be more than one lie, but there can never be more than one truth"- Earburner

 

[Earburner]

perhaps a witness will show up, no offense but you seem to be deliberately making jokes now at my expense? ta till then.

What?? I am not making jokes!! I am very serious about the topic that you brought up about Eternity!

 

[Earburner]

Oh gee well if you're gonna get all huffy then fu pal, I'll take the high ground

So now, you are going re-post my posts, with you putting your words in my mouth??
If you keep doing that, there will be nothing that you can talk about, except maybe your credibility.

 

[Earburner]

I think we are done here.

 

[bbyrd009]

Just a shame that a pre-tribulation rapture cannot be found in the Bible.

? It's everywhere I guess,
Bible Search: Rapture

 

[bbyrd009]

I think we are done here.

Ha no wait, I got one more,
"All I gotta do is just ignore everything in that post down to 'bye' and then I will be THE WINNA!!!
lol. Thanks for the chuckles ok, made my day

 

[Earburner]

Yeah

Ha no wait, I got one more,
"All I gotta do is just ignore everything in that post down to 'bye'
lol. Thanks for the chuckles ok, made my day

Yeah! You are a real laff a minute yourself. You play dodge ball real good, with Roller blades on.

 

[Earburner]

? It's everywhere I guess,
Bible Search: Rapture

Popular doctrines don't make them to be truth!

 

[bbyrd009]

ah, and the I'm rubber you're glue defense, I even almost called it, well played sir
ya, I'm a wormy guy alright

 

[amadeus]

You'll have to give a little more detail, on what you mean by "witness".
Other than John the Baptist and Jesus, who already did show up, there will be no others, that were prophetically foretold!

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." John 14:12

 

[Earburner]

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." John 14:12

Thanks! I do understand that facet of being a witness. My issue with the poster was I didn't know what he was referring to in the context of our discussion.

 

[Phoneman777]

Thus that great falling away is NOT yet happened today. It is hard-linked to the time of that coming false one exalting himself as Messiah in Jerusalem.

Have you ever heard of the Dark Ages? A time when between 50 - 150 Christians were killed BY ORDER OF THE CHURCH? You're preaching Jesuit Futurism. Protestant Historicism is the correct interpretation of eschatology, and shows how the "falling away" happened right on time and the "man of sin" arose and sat in the "temple of God showing himself that he is God", that temple being the church.

You've probably never heard of Protestant Historicism, right? But did you know that it was the only interpretation taught in the Christian church for over THREE SOLID CENTURIES up until only about 150 years ago when Jesuit "left behind" Futurism began to take over? Yes, it's true. Please investigate.

 

[farouk]

Not really. I am just being polite. Can't help it. I'm Canadian.

The way it works up here is that if you criticize one side, this is being reactionary; if the same criticisms are made about the other side, this is being progressive. :)

Canadian politeness is very nuanced.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

The way it works up here is that if you criticize one side, this is being reactionary; if the same criticisms are made about the other side, this is being progressive. :)

Canadian politeness is very nuanced.

LOL