Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

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Of the men on this thread who have posted, you pointed to ONE man who has spoken up for women.
If men always decided against the feminist agenda and insisted on forcefully denying it...there's not much women couldve done. The entire movement would have failed if men unilaterally said no.

But men mostly want to make women happy. So feminism got a lot of political power.
 
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I don't think society needed any of it. The right to vote was always tied to being drafted into the military. Its hardly equal to be able to vote without being up to be drafted. I also can see its mostly women voting in favor of abortion. To me, the right to vote means nothing if we dont use it to protect the country's intetests. Abortion is one of the greatest evils of our times and I dont respect its supporters.
I'm 100% against abortion. But I am 100% for women's right to vote (even though elections are 100% set up). Women can speak out against abortion and other issues that they disagree with. Women need options simply because society is not perfect. Women (and children) are easily abused and oppressed. Options are needed for there to be ways for women in need to gain independence from abusers ...whoever they may be. I'm not budging on that. Women having choices, options, and rights does not make them evil or a "feminist." It just gives them (and children) added resources in case it is needed.
 
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If men always decided against the feminist agenda and insisted on forcefully denying it...there's not much women couldve done. The entire movement would have failed if men unilaterally said no.

But men mostly want to make women happy. So feminism got a lot of political power.
I have a voice as a woman, and no man has a right to take that away from me. Just because a small percentage of men will agree with women's rights, doesn't mean women's voices need to be silenced. I am not about LGBTQ, transgender this and that ...nor abortion. But even Biblically, there are allowances given for women to put away their husband.

Again, I'm not an advocate for rampant divorce, or divorce for any old reason. But as I stated before, women and children in danger benefit immensely from the fact women have rights! I speak out and advocate for trauma and abuse survivors. The vast majority of those are women. And many of them have children.

I won't give up my stance. I will fight for them ....and myself. Most men are cowards. A high percentage of men are oppressors, and many are abusers. We see evidence of that in this very thread. No man stood with me nor my children. I had to do it. And that is the case for 98% of women and children in my area of work.
 

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Do you believe this assessment equally applies to women?
Absolutely not! lol
That's laughable when you say that to me because women are the ones who will give their lives for their children. Most of the people who gain freedom from SRA/MK are women ...and I mean, 97%. Most of the people who speak out and spread awareness, and support other trauma victims are women. I know ....I have seen it.

Most of the people who suffer persecution for going against the cult are women. The men stand back, they cower ...they comply .....they do what they're told by their cult handlers, and turn and oppress and control their wives and children. What do you think that does to the boys when they see their fathers cower and without a backbone? Thankfully, they have an example in their mothers who were willing to pay the price for their safety.

As far as abusers... there are female abusers, of course. But it is men who run the SRA/MK network and traumatize infants, children, adults in order to shatter their minds and wills and spirits. It is the women who most often rebel against that oppression and gain freedom... or they will die for it.

And this is widespread, around the world. I'm not talking about a local satanic cult. I am referring to THE cult ...the hidden (and not-so-hidden) network of luciferians who rule the world and control governments.

I'm just speaking the straight up truth. I don't care who dislikes it or disagrees. Live it ...then you'll see.
 

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Don't you see how that is against feminism?
I believe in choice ... for men AND for women ...except where it takes the life of someone else. Killing babies shouldn't be a choice for anyone.
 
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Killing babies shouldn't be a choice for anyone.

May I ask a clarifying question?

Are you for abortion when the life of the mother is in danger?

I do not support abortion for birth control reasons, but do support abortion when the life of the mother is in danger.
 

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May I ask a clarifying question?

Are you for abortion when the life of the mother is in danger?

I do not support abortion for birth control reasons, but do support abortion when the life of the mother is in danger.
I understand. And I know a few other men who feel the same. I know it's an extremely hard thing to consider and there can be so many caveats, but Biblically, it's still murder. I believe God should be the one who decides.

I was the victim of forced late term abortion as a girl (age 10 and up) and it was devastating. It was a man who impregnated me, and men who forced the abortion/s on me and performed them. I wanted my baby/babies and fought so hard not to push my baby into this world for them to kill. (They gave me something orally to cause contractions, then took my baby/babies with forceps.)

Then when I was about 18, I tried to rescue my younger cousin (age 15) when she was pregnant and being told she was getting an abortion. That rescue failed ...but she desperately wanted her baby as well.


Those incidents don't fit with what you asked, but it just gives some added insight to the subject of abortion.

I guess what brought that to mind to share was that as a mother, it's my place to fight for the life of my baby ...not to take it.
 

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I understand. And I know a few other men who feel the same. I know it's an extremely hard thing to consider and there can be so many caveats, but Biblically, it's still murder. I believe God should be the one who decides.

I was the victim of forced late term abortion as a girl (age 10 and up) and it was devastating. It was a man who impregnated me, and men who forced the abortion/s on me and performed them. I wanted my baby/babies and fought so hard not to push my baby into this world for them to kill. (They gave me something orally to cause contractions, then took my baby/babies with forceps.)

Then when I was about 18, I tried to rescue my younger cousin (age 15) when she was pregnant and being told she was getting an abortion. That rescue failed ...but she desperately wanted her baby as well.


Those incidents don't fit with what you asked, but it just gives some added insight to the subject of abortion.

I guess what brought that to mind to share was that as a mother, it's my place to fight for the life of my baby ...not to take it.

I have seen the devastation that losing a wife and mother does when a woman dies because of not getting an abortion. I am also not of the impression that God thinks of it as murder.

I respect your position though.
 
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Feminism convinced women that home was captivity and work was liberation.

Feminism also convinced women that submission to a husband was oppression and submitting to a boss was empowerment.

I don't believe that there would be a utopia without feminism because I don't believe any ideology will give people utopias.

I just know feminism has made society objectively worse.
 

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Women having choices, options, and rights does not make them evil or a "feminist." It just gives them (and children) added resources in case it is needed.
I agree with this. Women can have access to resources without feminism.

I volunteered at a pregnancy resource center for years. Many feminists were against us because its a pro life ministry for crisis pregnancies. But that place did and does a lot of good for women.

Women organized and did a lot of good in their communities before feminism. They did not need any political movement to do so.
 
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I agree with this. Women can have access to resources without feminism.
And yet the fact is, they have come about because of "feminism" ....or the simple fact that women advocated for their own rights. I am grateful that there are options. I don't believe we would have these rights today had women not risen up and fought for their God-given rights.
 

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Women organized and did a lot of good in their communities before feminism.
And yet, they did nothing for actual women's rights as far as voting, work, etc. (I am not referring to a "woman's right to 'reproductive services.'")
 

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Absolutely not! lol
That's laughable when you say that to me because women are the ones who will give their lives for their children.
LOL huh?

1st, this is an anti-truth. The EXACT OPPOSITE is true. Not too many headlines are Men and Children flee for their lives while the women stayed and paid with their lives so their families will survive. This is well documented in Jim Collins Women Can't Hear What Men Don't Say.

2nd, there are other measures to determine how abusive and women are than this. For instance, women are the primary abusers of children, starting with killing them in the own womb.

3rd, so much for equality. You can't assert equality for women while simultaneously denying women are equally bad as men and be taken seriously.
 

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I believe in choice ... for men AND for women ...except where it takes the life of someone else. Killing babies shouldn't be a choice for anyone.
That's a start. I recently heard something like 97% of abortions are for convenience rather than the health of the mother. It's way past time feminists came to terms with the consequences of their evil ideology.
 

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That's a start. I recently heard something like 97% of abortions are for convenience rather than the health of the mother. It's way past time feminists came to terms with the consequences of their evil ideology.
I am not a feminist. lol
 

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Don't you see how that is against feminism?
Oh because I don't support abortion makes me an anti-feminist?

Let me ask you a question: Do you support Female Genital Mutilation? Feminism DOESN'T.

So, if you don't, does that make YOU a feminist?
 
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