Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Naomanos]

Are you a man? I thought you was, but maybe you've been hanging out with the girls too much. Know how I can tell? "A real man wont hit his woman and will stand there and take the abuse!"

You have the audacity to call my manhood into question right after you admitted that you let women beat you up. lol! Umm, ok I guess. To each his own lol.

Okay, coward, whatever you say!

I should have said coward then. Only a coward uses physical violence on a woman. I took the abuse, because a man doesn't use physical violence on a woman. Something you either never learned or ignored.

My grandfather taught me that. He fought in WWII. He never hit my grandmother and taught me that a man doesn't hit a woman, no matter what she does,

 

[Wynona]

As a woman, I don't want to BE a man. But I want equal opportunity as men have. The opportunity to vote...to work and make the same wage as a man in the same profession as a man...to work in the profession without being sexually harassed by other men...to not be told that as a woman I "belong in the kitchen and having babies"...

All these opportunities exist in spades. What exactly does feminism have left to fight for?

We are living way downstream from what feminist wanted. At what point is the fight over?

 

[Wrangler]

Bull. My husband(s) didn't "earn" anything, simply because they married me. Takes MORE than that.

It does NOT take more than that as far as God commands. This is where you fail to live up to your God given responsibility.

And you have no one to blame for your misery but yourself.

 

[Mink57]

@Mink57

You asked several times about the husband. Lots of Scriptures address husbands, but if Im a wife, I cannot control the actions of my husband. I focus on what I can control and the verses that apply to me.

And THAT"S the point. LOTS of scriptures address husbands, yet husbands seem to ONLY focus on that ONE scripture....which isn't even correctly described...and that is, that the WIFE should submit. Heck, we're doing this HERE on this THREAD!

Wives and husbands are to submit TO ONE ANOTHER. None of this, "Well, only the WIFE is to submit!" And 'submission' does NOT mean, "Wife, do whatever your husband wants!" Could you just imagine that if your husband wanted to have sex with you in a public park, with children around, that you're supposed to "submit" to him????

How much 'submission' is TOO MUCH? IS there such a thing as "too much" submission for you?

I entered marriage with a mindset that as long as my husband did his part and made me happy, I would do my part.

Except this is not a Godly marriage covenant mindset but a conditional contract. God expects me to do my part as a wife as long as its possible, not based on my husband's behaviour. If he fails to love me as Christ loved the Church, Im only held accountable for how I respond.

There is NOTHING biblical that says that marriage is "unconditional" Even GOD HIMSELF 'divorced' himself from Israel. He HATED it, but he did it anyway.

The vows that we take at marriage aren't necessarily biblical. Even Jesus allowed for divorce if adultery was involved.

Husbands who don't obey the Word are to be won by their wives behaviour without words (1 Peter 3:1-7).

Oh please....how many women have TRIED to "win their husbands over" time and time again, only to have FAILED.

I not only failed to do this, I was a selfish and vain woman who justified leaving three times and having an emotional affair. The affair was the last straw and I finally realized that I was the problem in our marriage as much as my husband was.

O.k. But your selfishness and vanity wasn't because of feminism. A non-feminist woman could have been the same way as YOU.

You've mentioned having an affair before. But you also said that your "affair" had to do with kissing....not sex. Hardly an "affair". Don't keep beating yourself up for that.

It doesn't matter that my husband had his own issues. I can't control him. I can only control me. And I failed to love him. A Christian always loves. But Im thankful now because that event of failing as a wife and being forgiven overhauled my faith.

Actually it DOES matter that your husband had his own issues. It's not ONLY up to YOU to love your husband...

...especially if he doesn't love YOU.

 

[Mink57]

You contradict yourself. You said she slapped you. You HIT her ....no mere slap sends someone flying across the room, or onto the floor.

Yup, and if SHE karate chopped him in the throat, he'd probably cry "foul!"

 

[MA2444]

You contradict yourself. You said she slapped you. You HIT her ....no mere slap sends someone flying across the room, or onto the floor.

Oh go back up there to the post and read it. I slapped her because that's what was necessary.

I hit one other woman in my life, and I did hit her like a man. I'll tell you what happened then you can apologize, lol.

I was buying a used car off of my neighbor one time. She was a behemoth of a woman, super fat and big and mean & Mexican. It was only $250 for the car, 50 bucks a week and I was nt behind in any payments.

So very early one saturday morning she showed up at my house and had obviously been on an all night drunk. And she wanted money, she dont care if I'm not behind, give me some money for the car! She was obviously broke and needed more drinking money.

I was making like 8 bucks an hour at the time with two small kids and a wife, so I cant pay no double payments, we didnt agree to that. And she stars getting loud and screaming at my door at 7:30 Am. Both my kids came out to see what was going on, I went to close the screen door as they came out so as to keep them in the house. Now the Mexican Gorilla doesnt want to let me shut the door so she's yelling and steps forward and double fisted my screen door. Which punched the screen out of it and the corner of the frame caught my son right above the eye and it began bleeding all over. I heard him yelp in pain and when I looked down and saw him with a face full of blood I stepped outside immediately and plowed her hard in the face with my fist! And all 3 or 400 pounds of her hit the sidewalk! That was my Son. We were sleeping and she brought trouble to our door so I say I did good.

Now can you tell me that I aint a man because I hit that woman? She asked for it. The next time I saw her (at the courthouse!) she had two black eyes! y wife laughed so hard at her!

So...No. Don't come up slapping me and dont come around the house harming my children or I whup their ass as the situation calls for it and that is the right thing to do.

 

[MA2444]

....no mere slap sends someone flying across the room, or onto the floor.

Maybe not you. Maybe your a heavy woman? This girl was about 105 pounds soaking wet. She went flying across the room and hit the floor on the far side of the bed.

The fat girl I hit didnt go flying, and I full on punched her! She hit the ground but t was a lot different because of the weight.

 

[MA2444]

I should have said coward then. Only a coward uses physical violence on a woman. I took the abuse, because a man doesn't use physical violence on a woman. Something you either never learned or ignored.

I stood up to the girl and the violence stopped. And I'm the coward?!

You stood there and let your girl beat the crap out of you several times and did nothing i response...?? Who's the coward here? Sounds like your scared of your girl, lol.

A man doesnt use physical violence towards a women...Yeah, I used to use that excuse myself. Admit it! She beat you up!! Lol

 

[Wynona]

There is NOTHING biblical that says that marriage is "unconditional" Even GOD HIMSELF 'divorced' himself from Israel. He HATED it, but he did it anyway.

I would not say marriage is 'unconditional' but it is sacrificial. To truly love always costs something.

Oh please....how many women have TRIED to "win their husbands over" time and time again, only to have FAILED.

I see very few women trying 1 Peter 3:1-7. Its not exactly easy. Most commands from Scripture arent. But Ive heard from women who do this and they agree that its more effective than nagging and criticizing a husband to get him to change. God can change a husband much better than we can.

Actually it DOES matter that your husband had his own issues. It's not ONLY up to YOU to love your husband...

...especially if he doesn't love YOU.

Except he did and does love me. Him being human and having his own flaws did not give me the right to leave without even trying to work things out. He changed over time and became a more confident, emotionally stable version of himself. Had I thrown him away like a bunch of people advised, Id never get to see the great man he became or the changed woman I became.

 

[MA2444]

Yup, and if SHE karate chopped him in the throat, he'd probably cry "foul!"

No, that would be Naomanos. I am the one who hit her (slapped)

 

[Wrangler]

yet husbands seem to ONLY focus on that ONE scripture....which isn't even correctly described...and that is, that the WIFE should submit.

You’re doing so many laps on ground already covered to exhaust yourself because you are rebelling against God.

 

[Wynona]

You've mentioned having an affair before. But you also said that your "affair" had to do with kissing....not sex. Hardly an "affair". Don't keep beating yourself up for that.

Girrrrrrlllll

smh lol

 

[Wrangler]

Wives and husbands are to submit TO ONE ANOTHER.

Not one verse in Scripture says this. There are verses that say wives are to submit to their husband.

LAP #852.

 

[MA2444]

Okay, coward, whatever you say!

I should have said coward then. Only a coward uses physical violence on a woman. I took the abuse, because a man doesn't use physical violence on a woman. Something you either never learned or ignored.

My grandfather taught me that. He fought in WWII. He never hit my grandmother and taught me that a man doesn't hit a woman, no matter what she does,

I struck women two times in my life and you act like you want me to be branded a woman beater/Wife beater. Neither time I have struck women in my life was to the woman I married and was with for 26 years. She never hit me and I never hit her. I'm sorry that you have poor choice in women and your first wife beat you up. But that dont make me no wife beater because I admit I hit women twice!

How long were you married? Did you file for abuse? That's a big man there!

 

[Mink57]

All these opportunities exist in spades. What exactly does feminism have left to fight for?

We are living way downstream from what feminist wanted. At what point is the fight over?

Are you serious? Feminism isn't some local "club". It fights for women's rights WORD-WIDE.

Would *you* like to live in a land where Female Genital Mutilation" is O.K? How about the right to vote in countries where voting by women isn't allowed? How about getting a FAIR wage for doing the SAME job as a MAN does....even in THIS country?

You really dont seem to get that even though LAWS have been passed, not EVERYONE agrees with the laws. Like I said in an earlier post, if you a get a credit card in your own name, WITHOUT your husband's or some other male relative's approval, thank FEMIMSM for that!

 

[MA2444]

where voting by women isn't allowed?

We can only dream...

 

[Wrangler]

It fights for women's rights WORD-WIDE.

Bull. No angry protests in the streets for women in Africa who endure FGM, Female Genital Mutilation, or in the Arab world where honor killing is respected in the courts, etc.

Also, notice the sexism, the gyno-centrism? No angry protests in the streets for men who suffer inequality worldwide.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Which punched the screen out of it and the corner of the frame caught my son right above the eye and it began bleeding all over. I heard him yelp in pain and when I looked down and saw him with a face full of blood I stepped outside immediately and plowed her hard in the face with my fist! And all 3 or 400 pounds of her hit the sidewalk! That was my Son. We were sleeping and she brought trouble to our door so I say I did good.

Now can you tell me that I aint a man because I hit that woman? She asked for it. The next time I saw her (at the courthouse!) she had two black eyes! y wife laughed so hard at her!

That is 100% different than the previous situation. Protecting your son is what you should do. Hitting a woman who simply slapped you was not necessary. Those are 2 different situations. The woman who slapped you wasn't a threat to you, let alone your son. I do not excuse what she did. (And Idk what provoked her to slap you, either.) But you could've done much better.

 

[Wynona]

Are you serious? Feminism isn't some local "club". It fights for women's rights WORD-WIDE.

Why are feminists still protesting in America?

You really dont seem to get that even though LAWS have been passed, not EVERYONE agrees with the laws.

Is there any law on earth that everyone agrees with?

Like I said in an earlier post, if you a get a credit card in your own name, WITHOUT your husband's or some other male relative's approval, thank FEMIMSM for that!

I don't need a credit card cause my man pays the bills and for things I like. I thank patriarchy for that.

Also, you spelled feminism wrong.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Like I said in an earlier post, if you a get a credit card in your own name, WITHOUT your husband's or some other male relative's approval, thank FEMIMSM for that!

Many women are perfectly happy and safe not getting a credit card or bank account in their name, and do just fine because they have honorable husbands. But for women living in an abusive marriage whose life and possibly that of their children are in danger, this is a very important option to have.