Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Ritajanice]

I guess being brought up privileged means, everything was on tap, education, food, home, no money problems, that all sounds great, except, growing up privileged doesn’t stop one from having mental health problems, they have their problems like anyone else.....privileged verses poor imo sounds like a competition....it’s Of the world, it’s certainly not of God, as a human being I’m equal to anyone .....unfortunately the world doesn’t see it this way....Praise God...he does, we are all equal as human beings in Gods eyes....privileged like to be in control ..feel superior to those who were born into poverty..they get off on their education for some, they think that their intellect is far more important than the heart, .......what does God say about searching our hearts?.....I often wonder if some even knows what that means?..just my thoughts like everyone else is voicing here....

I thank God that I grew up poor, regardless of the abuse I suffered emotionally, my mother brought me up with some morals that she instilled in me at a very young age, that was to respect my body and not give it away to every Tom dick and Harry...thank God I did just that, I have only been sexually with the 2 men that I married, ..when I give myself/ body it’s for life, I thought I was going to be married for life, I wasn’t sadly.

When God came into my life that was it, I gave myself to him, as in, never to be unfaithful to him , which I never have been as in sleeping around, that has always made me feel sick to my stomach..each to their own though.

I’ve never understood why some privileged men and woman seem to think that they are superior to poor people, when in fact as “ human beings “ we are all equal in Gods eyes......God showed me that I’m not” inferior “ to anyone, regardless of their education.....actions speak louder than words, God looks at the heart.....we all need each other, everyone plays a part in society...the world imo tends to look at the education..and not the heart..whereas God looks at the heart, he searches the depth of our hearts.....he knows more of what is in our hearts more than we do.......I’m proud of where I came from, it’s made me the person that I am today........I’m a great believer that in life, if there is no “ PAIN “ then there is no “ GAIN”........Pain can either bring you closer to God or it can make you bitter and twisted......thankfully my pain has brought me closer to God, I’m not saying at times I haven’t been bitter, I have, .....but, it never took a deep root, Praise God for that, only His Love has / can get me through..I thank God daily, for taking me out of this superficial world where materialistic stuff, power, control and money are worshipped......I worship God and no other.......I can’t stand phoney superficial people who think they are superior to others, because of their “ educational “status or their “ supposedly “ privileged background/ life. in this corrupt world........although I do pray for them, .........just my thoughts.

 

[Wrangler]

I’ve never understood why some privileged men and woman seem to think that they are superior to poor people

Ego. People will use any rationalization to build themselves up over others. It's not, "why do you think you are superior given?" It's "I'm superior because." If you study the human psychology of "us v them," this has a lot to do with it. We tend not to see others as assets but threats. Perhaps this explains why the most common command in Scripture is some version of don't be scared or worry.

 

[Wrangler]

People will sit back and call you archaic and horrible for saying these things. They want to act like a woman's past doesn't matter.

This is because it affects a woman, primarily, in her ability to pair bond. There is emerging science on this

This exchange shows how ideology trumps science and truth to those who have not triumphed over feminism.

I believe early on in this thread I posted a vid of college feminists in their first year storming out of a biology lecture as the female professors detailed the biological differences between the sexes that was more than sex organs, e.g., hair, odor, muscular, lung capacity, fat quantity and location of deposits, hormonal variation. This is science. These are objective facts. Rather than learn at college, these lovely ladies were overcome emotionally that their ideology was undermined by facts.

I don't know if I told you about the church I stopped going to because of their man-hating. In one sermon the female pastor said that all men are brain damaged. Imagine feminists taking this calmly about women - no matter the rationalization? She explained the pathways between left and right hemispheres are less established in a male brain compared to a female brain as the "support" for the man-hating conclusion. Men are supposed to "take it" as humor.

This is just another biological fact of the differences between men and women, which explain 2 things: why women tend to be better at multi-tasking but also get distracted by being more emotional. A wise person would embrace an ideology that encompasses new information from the sciences, not fight it.

 

[Wynona]

This exchange shows how ideology trumps science and truth to those who have not triumphed over feminism.

I believe early on in this thread I posted a vid of college feminists in their first year storming out of a biology lecture as the female professors detailed the biological differences between the sexes that was more than sex organs, e.g., hair, odor, muscular, lung capacity, fat quantity and location of deposits, hormonal variation. This is science. These are objective facts. Rather than learn at college, these lovely ladies were overcome emotionally that their ideology was undermined by facts.

I don't know if I told you about the church I stopped going to because of their man-hating. In one sermon the female pastor said that all men are brain damaged. Imagine feminists taking this calmly about women - no matter the rationalization? She explained the pathways between left and right hemispheres are less established in a male brain compared to a female brain as the "support" for the man-hating conclusion. Men are supposed to "take it" as humor.

This is just another biological fact of the differences between men and women, which explain 2 things: why women tend to be better at multi-tasking but also get distracted by being more emotional. A wise person would embrace an ideology that encompasses new information from the sciences, not fight it.

There is a book you may enjoy by Anthony Esolen. It's called No Apologies, why civilization still depends on strong men.

I started reading it because I have a son to raise. I think you would find it encouraging. I learned a lot. For example. men have larger hearts, can tolerate hot temperatures longer, and have a drive for a singular focus of mastery. Men are needed to rebuild the infrastructure of the United States. This would employ so many and have massive benefits for society.

Feminists who hate men still enjoy so many safety features and technology created by men working together in risky conditions to do what is needed.

 

[Wynona]

Ironically, feminism tears down good men and attacks any incentive for them to become virtuous. A lot of men will not marry because they've seen good men gutted in divorce court financially and through custody battles unjustly. If a man opens the door for a woman or tries to help her out of a vulnerable situation, he could be labeled as sexist.

One false accusation of rape or domestic violence can ruin a man's whole career.

The men that benefit from feminism are the bad men--- men who throw up their hands when faced with responsibility, men who want no strings attached sex whenever possible, men who would gladly pressure a woman to abort their child, men who exploit women's sexuality for profit.

 

[Wrangler]

There is a book you may enjoy by Anthony Esolen. It's called No Apologies, why civilization still depends on strong men.


I started reading it because I have a son to raise.

Thank you. Sad that our society is so man-hating that the notion that civilization depends on strong men is even debatable. Strength is a virtue but man-hating feminists deny the existence of virtue in men in practice. I recommend the following for you, your husband and your son:

1. The War Against Men by Richard Hise
2. War Against Boys by Christina Hoff Sommers
3. The Proper Care & Feeding of Husbands by Dr Laura Schlessinger
4. Wild At Heart by John Eldredge
5. Fathered By God by John Eldredge

Fathered By God is the only book I ever sent to all my sons - in love and step. Excerpts of my letter to them:

The bestselling author, John Eldridge is an important force in addressing men’s issues and men’s happiness. The book is actually a sequel. The first book, Wild At Heart, addresses the sense many men have that something is missing from modern life in the routine of going to work, taking care of the needful and engaging in mindless entertainment. Fathered By God addresses the process of not merely “living up to our responsibilities” but living fully and passionately as we were meant. The American coming of age story involves little more than initiation to excess drinking while some tribes in Africa do not allow a boy to date until he has killed his first lion. Boys cannot learn how to be men from their mothers. Eldridge says masculinity must be bestowed, earned; and this by being invited to be dangerous. All men yearn to be a hero.

Eldridge tells of an ancient and powerful story. A boy who never knew his father is sitting by a fire after his town was attacked by invading Muslims, his mother killed. All that he knew is gone. A knight who arrived in time to prevent the entire town’s destruction approaches. He asks the boy his name and tells him that he is his father whose been on a crusade. He invites the boy to learn to be a knight. The boy accepts. Years later he goes on his own crusade. He returns a conquering hero. Throngs of people line the streets to celebrate his improbable victory. At the end of the procession stands the king, his father, who gives him the kingdom.

Eldridge explains the masculine journey is a continuum, where we go back and forth as the situation requires but we tend to mainly be in one stage or another. He identifies 6 stages of the masculine journey and the consequences of being wounded in any given stage.

​

1. Beloved Son – Adored for who you are, before doing anything.​

2. Cowboy – Adventure to answer the question, “Do I have what it takes?”​

3. Warrior –Mastery of self and calling. Learning there is evil and how to defeat it.​

• Every man must realize there are things worth fighting for.​

• No man is more of a man than when he enters a battle he is not sure of winning.​

4. Lover – Not just of women but life itself and the world around us.​

5. King – Provides, protects, and prepares for your people’s needs that they can’t and may not even know or admit they have.​

• Master of your domain in doing what is right, regardless of criticism.​

• No one wants a king who has not mastered himself or doesn’t love his own people.​

6. Sage – Respected advisor who has lived long and well and given up the burdens of the kingdom.​

Many boys grow up in America without fathers in their lives. They miss the foundation of the masculine journey and don’t know what it is to be loved without doing anything. They’re a Cowboy, pursuing adventure for its own sake with no ambition beyond the next thrill.

Feminists who hate men still enjoy so many safety features and technology created by men working together in risky conditions to do what is needed.

Agreed. No appreciation, only contempt for how building civilization could have been built better. I call this The Hateful More Standard; No matter how much a man does, he is condemned for not doing more. Easy to see why modern men bow out, MGTOW. Feminists lack the humility to realize they have created their worst nightmare. Responsibility just is not theirs.

Ironically, feminism tears down good men and attacks any incentive for them to become virtuous. A lot of men will not marry because they've seen good men gutted in divorce court financially and through custody battles unjustly.

And a rational person cannot blame men for avoiding the man-hating trap. I've posted vids in this thread about the real power of the feminine, to inspire men to become virtuous, is destroyed by feminism. If you have not seen this women's channel, check it out. I think you'd enjoy it. In this vid she compares and contrast a woman from a wife

 

[Wynona]

Thank you. Sad that our society is so man-hating that the notion that civilization depends on strong men is even debatable. Strength is a virtue but man-hating feminists deny the existence of virtue in men in practice. I recommend the following for you, your husband and your son:

1. The War Against Men by Richard Hise
2. War Against Boys by Christina Hoff Sommers
3. The Proper Care & Feeding of Husbands by Dr Laura Schlessinger
4. Wild At Heart by John Eldredge
5. Fathered By God by John Eldredge

Fathered By God is the only book I ever sent to all my sons - in love and step. Excerpts of my letter to them:

The bestselling author, John Eldridge is an important force in addressing men’s issues and men’s happiness. The book is actually a sequel. The first book, Wild At Heart, addresses the sense many men have that something is missing from modern life in the routine of going to work, taking care of the needful and engaging in mindless entertainment. Fathered By God addresses the process of not merely “living up to our responsibilities” but living fully and passionately as we were meant. The American coming of age story involves little more than initiation to excess drinking while some tribes in Africa do not allow a boy to date until he has killed his first lion. Boys cannot learn how to be men from their mothers. Eldridge says masculinity must be bestowed, earned; and this by being invited to be dangerous. All men yearn to be a hero.

Eldridge tells of an ancient and powerful story. A boy who never knew his father is sitting by a fire after his town was attacked by invading Muslims, his mother killed. All that he knew is gone. A knight who arrived in time to prevent the entire town’s destruction approaches. He asks the boy his name and tells him that he is his father whose been on a crusade. He invites the boy to learn to be a knight. The boy accepts. Years later he goes on his own crusade. He returns a conquering hero. Throngs of people line the streets to celebrate his improbable victory. At the end of the procession stands the king, his father, who gives him the kingdom.

Eldridge explains the masculine journey is a continuum, where we go back and forth as the situation requires but we tend to mainly be in one stage or another. He identifies 6 stages of the masculine journey and the consequences of being wounded in any given stage.

​

1. Beloved Son – Adored for who you are, before doing anything.​

2. Cowboy – Adventure to answer the question, “Do I have what it takes?”​

3. Warrior –Mastery of self and calling. Learning there is evil and how to defeat it.​

• Every man must realize there are things worth fighting for.​

• No man is more of a man than when he enters a battle he is not sure of winning.​

4. Lover – Not just of women but life itself and the world around us.​

5. King – Provides, protects, and prepares for your people’s needs that they can’t and may not even know or admit they have.​

• Master of your domain in doing what is right, regardless of criticism.​

• No one wants a king who has not mastered himself or doesn’t love his own people.​

6. Sage – Respected advisor who has lived long and well and given up the burdens of the kingdom.​

Many boys grow up in America without fathers in their lives. They miss the foundation of the masculine journey and don’t know what it is to be loved without doing anything. They’re a Cowboy, pursuing adventure for its own sake with no ambition beyond the next thrill.



Agreed. No appreciation, only contempt for how building civilization could have been built better. I call this The Hateful More Standard; No matter how much a man does, he is condemned for not doing more. Easy to see why modern men bow out, MGTOW. Feminists lack the humility to realize they have created their worst nightmare. Responsibility just is not theirs.


And a rational person cannot blame men for avoiding the man-hating trap. I've posted vids in this thread about the real power of the feminine, to inspire men to become virtuous, is destroyed by feminism. If you have not seen this women's channel, check it out. I think you'd enjoy it. In this vid she compares and contrast a woman from a wife

Thank you so much for sharing all of these resources. I will save this post. My husband and I love discussing these things together.

 

[Wynona]

@Wrangler

I watched the woman or wife video. Shw did a great job of summarizing a  huge topic.

I like Genesis 2:18

Adam was alone so God made a companion suitable for him.

Eve was to be a beloved companion and a suitable helper. This to me is the definition of a wife. The one that contradicted my own way of thinking : "my man should support his own dreams of individual success along with my dreams of individual success".

This is not biblical and this way of think8ng caused us to argue endlessly. Him vs me vs him vs me. I said I wanted a spiritual leader but without Genesis 2 and Titus 2:3-5 as a foundation, I found myself to be not suited for marriage. I hated serving anyone. I wanted us to have more money. And I just knew getting married was a mistake.

Not knowing my role cost me. I wouldve loved to have started having children earlier in hindsight.

A woman is consumed with her own goals even if they have no benefit to the husband. This was me.

A wife is determined to give her all to invest in her marriage and knows that investing in the husband helps them both advance as a one flesh team.

To be one flesh in marriage is not 50 50. It is a husband taking on a wife to be "bone of his bone, flesh of his flesh".

 

[Wynona]

Submission makes me more than a woman to my husband.

The Proverbs 31 woman is a trusted wife.

My husband trusts me not to overspend, break confidence, be idle all day and neglect the home and kids, or bring shame by flirting with other men or dressing immodestly.

He trusted me so much, we moved into a place he had not even seen himself and signed the lease. I chose our current home and my husband had no issue with it. He enjoys it here now. I feel honored by that. I feel honored that he chose to marry me at 19. And that he relies on me to help him support our household and his added responsibilities.

The Bible purposely humbles women in particular. But to be humble puts men and women right back in the place of honor in due time---by God Himself if not the spouse.

A woman who fears the Lord shall be praised.

 

[Wrangler]

Thank you so much for sharing all of these resources.

War Against Boys by Christina Hoff Sommers

I gave this book to my stepdaughter as a Xmas present so she could be more prepared raising her son.

Being a man-hating, gyno-centric feminist, she refused to read this book, written by a first wave feminist, calling it BS. Locked into the false narrative that only females are victims, is she.

Not even the love of her son could overcome her man hating.

 

[Wynona]

I gave this book to my stepdaughter as a Xmas present so she could be more prepared raising her son.

Being a man-hating, gyno-centric feminist, she refused to read this book, written by a first wave feminist, calling it BS. Locked into the false narrative that only females are victims, is she.

Not even the love of her son could overcome her man hating.

Not good. I made sure to write down each book on your list.

My son is three months old. I want to be prepared. Plus, I love learning about masculinity and femininity. I have a duty to not add to the failures of previous generations.

I will likely start with Wild at Heart. Ive heard of that one before.

 

[Wynona]

 

[Wrangler]

I will likely start with Wild at Heart. Ive heard of that one before.

The first half was one of the best books I’ve ever read. The 2nd have became more personal, taking risks that I would not now advocate given the sexist laws against men, etc.

One story was about the risk he took to ask his wife to dance at a ball when they were not getting along at all for a long time.

His wife, Stacey, felt a great insecurity being played out - that she was not worth the pursuit. Pastor John did not want to ask her to dance. Damn it! The Holy Spirit kept prompting him.

Anticipating the request would provide the opportunity for sarcasm, rejection and criticism (if you asked me earlier….), his wife surprisingly said yes BUT could not even look at him.

HIM: This is it! This marriage is on its last leg. It’s over. Here we are. All dressed up. Beautiful palace. Beautiful music. I took the romantic step to ask to dance AND NOTHING. Nothing but contempt. Contempt so deep and profound she cannot say a word or even look at me. Emotionally, we are world’s apart.

HER. I cannot believe he still thinks, after all the horrible ways I’ve treated him, all the horrible things I’ve said to him - that I am STILL worth pursuing. Maybe my Dad was wrong? Maybe God has blessed me with the man of my dreams? I’m so ashamed. I cannot speak. So ashamed I cannot even look at him.

John was shocked that at the end of the dance, she broke into tears, fled the dance floor for the balcony to be alone.

HIM. Good! She deserves to be alone. I’ll let her find her own ride home. I’m done. Done, I tell you!

The Holy Spirit prompted John to follow her to the balcony.

HIM: No damn it! Just no. How much abuse and humiliation can a man take? I’m not going to do it.

The Holy Spirit prompted John stronger than any promoting he ever got. He went out there, meekly said her name, ‘Stac.’ She ran into his arms, wept deeply as she repeatedly said, ‘I’m so sorry. I love you so much. Thank God for you.” This rekindled their marriage.

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Or something like that. Like I said, the first half was better. I don’t remember the details of the 2nd half of the book.

 

[Wrangler]

Some funnies ...

 

[Wrangler]

Powerful video on equality and false witness.

 

[Wynona]

A great servant of God who had triumphed over feminism and had been married over 40 years: Lori Alexander.

She teaches younger women emotional self control and how to be good wives through Scripture.

Here is an example of her teaching. In this video, I love how she points out that women go to church a lot and do a lot of religious activity but fail to be patient with and love their husbands.

 

[Wynona]

 

[Wynona]

Powerful video on equality and false witness.

I say women who act this obnoxious need to be alone. Men need to avoid this type of woman all together rather than argue with them.

Ive had a lot of female friends that used my friendship to validate their horrible lifestyles. They loved having a Christian friend. But as I began to cut them out of my life, some of them got better because they slowly realized they were the problem and no one wanted to deal with them.

 

[Wynona]

Even now, Im still unlearning feminism.

1 Peter 3 mentions women being the 'weaker vessel". I used to not like this. All my life Ive been expected to compete with men and be a "go-getter".

But owning up to being the weaker vessel means I don't have to compete with men at all. And its a relief to have a husband who understands that I need more rest more often than he does.

The fact is, women cannot compete with men without negative consequences. Being chronically stressed is just one of them.

Relaxing into my femininity helps me remain soft and nurturing. Still a work on progress but way less stressful.

 

[Wynona]

Feminism can identify problems all day but it cannot make women happy.

Ive known happiness. It's serving others like your family for Christ. Agreeing with Paul: "With food and clothing, we shall be content." and "Godliness with contentmemt is great gain".