Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Wrangler]

They used to tell me that too. I found out that it isnt true. It gets harder.

This is only true if you did not raise them right. One of the great joys in my life is seeing my daughters grow up to be responsible women and mothers. Why is it harder when the kids are grown (or did you mean older kids, like teens?)

 

[Naomanos]

They used to tell me that too. I found out that it isnt true. It gets harder.

Teens, especially female teens, do get harder. It’s the hormones that cause problems in my experience. Once they start hitting puberty, I have found that they just get harder to deal with.

I love all my girls and am happy that four of them are out of the teenage years, but my youngest girl will be 13 this year and she is starting the teenage sass already. We’re actually glad of it for her as it is giving her confidence that she didn’t have before. So, hopefully, her teen years won’t be as rough as my other girls teen years were.

 

[MA2444]

This is only true if you did not raise them right. One of the great joys in my life is seeing my daughters grow up to be responsible women and mothers. Why is it harder when the kids are grown (or did you mean older kids, like teens?)

I didn't raise girls but even so, you got me there. I did not raise them right. I wasnt the spiritual leader of the home that I should have been.

The two boys sure got into their share of trouble. Even the disrespecting Dad stage and it was not fun. It doesnt matter how much money one lets them spend, when one has to work, their friends wind up getting them in trouble and finsish raising them so to speak.

So the problems get bigger and the price tag gets bigger too. Bys will do some scheming but I think I'm still sorta glad that I didn't have to raise girls because they can be even more scheming than the boys are!

It takes a spiritual leader to handle that stuff. And I was all full of pride in those years because of how much money I was making so I wasnt looking to God.

 

[MA2444]

Teens, especially female teens, do get harder. It’s the hormones that cause problems in my experience. Once they start hitting puberty, I have found that they just get harder to deal with.

I love all my girls and am happy that four of them are out of the teenage years, but my youngest girl will be 13 this year and she is starting the teenage sass already. We’re actually glad of it for her as it is giving her confidence that she didn’t have before. So, hopefully, her teen years won’t be as rough as my other girls teen years were.

Four girls?! That sounds...super scary! At least Dad never had to threaten girls boyfriends! That was a blessing right there!

 

[Wrangler]

@MA2444, this could really be its own thread, parenting challenges. It's the #2 cause of divorce and what my first marriage succumbed to.

I didn't raise girls but even so, you got me there. I did not raise them right.

Tough thing to admit. How is your relationship with them now? How are they?

The two boys sure got into their share of trouble. Even the disrespecting Dad stage and it was not fun.

I wondered how it'd be if my son survived (SIDS)? Would he have gotten physical with me in disrespect?

I'm still sorta glad that I didn't have to raise girls because they can be even more scheming than the boys are!

The adage is girls are easier when they are younger and harder in the teen years. Boys are more rambunctious and high energy when young but mellow in the teen years.

Regarding the scheming, I raised 4 adolescent girls + menopausal wife at the same time, making the estrogen level toxic. The menopausal wife seemed to advocate for the scheming!

The girls were about the same physical size, constantly borrowing each other's clothes and accessories and constantly fighting about returning them washed and folded. Then there were the constant sleep overs and arguing over who had precedence for taxi services from mom and dad. I do believe having more than 1 girl neutralized many of the would be schemes. LOL

 

[Naomanos]

Four girls?! That sounds...super scary! At least Dad never had to threaten girls boyfriends! That was a blessing right there!

Yes, four girls and three boys. The boys, thus far, have been the easiest.

My youngest boy at 10 may change that though. He’s super smart, a little too smart for his own good.

 

[MA2444]

Teens, especially female teens, do get harder. It’s the hormones that cause problems in my experience. Once they start hitting puberty, I have found that they just get harder to deal with.

I love all my girls and am happy that four of them are out of the teenage years, but my youngest girl will be 13 this year and she is starting the teenage sass already. We’re actually glad of it for her as it is giving her confidence that she didn’t have before. So, hopefully, her teen years won’t be as rough as my other girls teen years were.

My younger son tried the disrespectful sass on my and I decked him for it. Him & his brother got up fighting one saturday and were tearing up the house. When I got up and said No, he put on the sass and asked for it. We scuffled some and then he got the bright idea to cal the cops on me and blame me! Them two boys became friends again so fast it werent funny and they doubleteamed me to the cops to the point that the cops said if they have come back, I am getting arrested!

That empowered the younger son so when they left, he doubled up on the sass and when he did on reflex, I decked him again! He jumped right back on the phone to the cops. I had to leave because I didnt want to get arrested. They were fighting, not me. I wasnt 3 steps up the road before I started appealing to the Lord about it! Help me Lord, I dont want to be arrested! I did nothing wrong.

The Lord answered me almost instantly and said, turn right at the corner, then left, then left, then right, now sit here and rest, get up go quickly and go right...and just all sorts of stuff like that for amost an hour. I followed every instruction to the letter and they never did find me. Later I found out that there were 3 teams of police cars searching for me and I was on foot. I had had a recent auto accident so couldnt walk far and my truck was broke down! The voice was inside of me telling me what to do. A few times I seen cop cars 2 or 3 blocks away crossing an intersection searching for me. But they never saw me. I was also not used to hearing the voice of the Lord yet and it was like, He turned up the volume inside me so I could hear Him easily. Then almost an hour later the Lord said, ok you can go home now, it's safe and they called off the search. !!

So I didnt get arrested! Praise the Lord! If I had been waking with the Lord all the time they was growing up things could have been different But I got a good tetstimony out of it!

 

[Wynona]

@Wrangler

I can't think of any wisdom on how to handle visiting your daughter. But don't underestimate the influence you have on her life. Our families watch our conduct as Christians whether they say it or not.

@MA2444

To be head of household and to be spiritual leader can be different.

My father was a passive non opinionated man most of the time. This frustrated me growing up so I picked a man who had strong opinions and was outspoken. I told him while we were dating I wanted him to be a spiritual leader. He had never considered such a thing but he wanted my hand in marriage so he agreed.

His leadership in the beginning was...immature and somewhat insufferable just like my "submission' was. We didnt see our parents live this out or any other couple. We argued a lot. I separated from him on three separate occasion, running back home away from our problems.

Fast forward.

I have forgiven and choose to honor my Dad because he loves me and it is the right thing to do. In Christ I am perfectly fathered, no daddy issues to speak of.

Elijah's leadership began to take on a Christlike nature and he became several times more confident. I dont get credit for the beginning but once I stopped running and got fully invested, I was committed to building him up. I stopped allowing my mother to criticize him harshly in my presence. She never did it again.

We were poor but I quit working anyway. Elijah said hed figure out the finances. He just drove a cab at the time. He reached success through commercial truck driving.

Christ became the head of our home. Thay is what made the difference. He rose to the call to love me as Christ loved the Church. I became a submissive and supportive Bride no longer wanting the greener grass. My own household is the best place for me and Elijah is the best man for me.

I guess all this to say point your families to Christ. When Christ is head of a household, everything else prospers in due time.

 

[MA2444]

@MA2444, this could really be its own thread, parenting challenges. It's the #2 cause of divorce and what my first marriage succumbed to.


Tough thing to admit. How is your relationship with them now? How are they?


I wondered how it'd be if my son survived (SIDS)? Would he have gotten physical with me in disrespect?



The adage is girls are easier when they are younger and harder in the teen years. Boys are more rambunctious and high energy when young but mellow in the teen years.

Regarding the scheming, I raised 4 adolescent girls + menopausal wife at the same time, making the estrogen level toxic. The menopausal wife seemed to advocate for the scheming!

The girls were about the same physical size, constantly borrowing each other's clothes and accessories and constantly fighting about returning them washed and folded. Then there were the constant sleep overs and arguing over who had precedence for taxi services from mom and dad. I do believe having more than 1 girl neutralized many of the would be schemes. LOL

Neutralized many of the schemes? Uh...if it were possible for you to be wrong about that, it would mean that, they got away with way more than you ever dreamed of! Maybe, I dunno!.

One thing I can credit to my boys. Neither one has ever done anything stupid with a gun. And that is because, when me & my (then) pregnant girlfriend had the unction to starting thinking up names (lol) then we got to move into toogether because I got us a place and she saw the extent of my gun collection! Which was modest back then, but looked to her ike a lot. And she became worried about the kids with guns in the house, so she said, if even one gun goes off in the house, they are all gone! (You know how mama bears are). I knew that no gun can be "child-proofed" it's impossible. It's a gun. It is dangerous. So since you can't child-proof my guns...I had to Gun-Proof my kids.Just like it was when I was a kid growing up, loaded guns everywhere. Teach them when they are young to be safe and when they are old, they will not depart from it. My two sonshave gotten in plenty of trouble, but neither one has ever been stupid with a gun, so that's a win for me and their grown now. When we were young, it wasnt long before a 2nd boy came along, before the first one was ready to go shooting in fact! So I made the mama come and learn gun safety also! I raised a family of gun-nuts!

My kids had zero mishaps or negligent discharges in the home while they was growing up. But we lived in Colorado and the mountain was only about 20-30 minutes away so I had them up there shooting at around age 3? I would wrap myself them and hold the gun and basically all they'd do is pull the trigger. They loved it, just like on TV! So I shook up some soda cans of pop and let them shoot those and see the spray of pop. Then I would pick up the split can and give it to them and say, fix it, make it better (dumb looks, they couldn't!) so I said, this is real life this is not TV. This is what would happen to your mom or your brother if you shot them!

It worked good. I had both of them small game hunting with me at around 8 yrs old. I learned to trust them so much that I started letting them keep loaded pistols i their room about age 10. One time they had friends over and my older son called me and I went to see what he wanted and he had all the pistols that were in his room and said I trust the one friend that is here but the other one...no so much, and I do have to go to the bathroom sometimes...(!!!) Oh I was proud of him that night! I get along with both my sons when I hear from them. I hear from my younger son more often than the oder one. The older one all wrapped up with 3 kids amd a new wife so he has his hands full and I don't hear from him much.

 

[Wrangler]

At least Dad never had to threaten girls boyfriends!

I didn't have to threaten my girls boyfriends. My reputation proceeded me. The boys were scared to speak to me or even look at me. (They know, I know what they want). Two of my stepdaughters married their 1st boyfriends. It was great to witness the hormonally driven teen boys become men and protective husbands and fathers.

Except for one who was not scared; my oldest stepdaughters first boyfriend. He was the quarterback of the football team and a player. Exuded bad news. My strategy, confident I raised her right, was not to get involved, to let her figure it out as a rite of passage.

I couldn't help notice her one long weekend in the fetal position day after day. With great reluctance I gave the only dating advice. LOL Letting her know that I noticed that she does not seem too happy (understatement), I told her, "There are a lot of jerks in the world. You don't have to date them all." Thank God she moved on. Her 2nd boyfriend was a keeper and she married him. His family is in the restaurant business and he followed suit.

Regarding my reputation, I did not realize I even had one until my daughter, 5 years younger than my youngest stepdaughter, wanted to take her friend with us to visit family in Boston for a week. I was divorced then but knew the girls mother for years. I went to her house to discuss the weeklong vacation in detail, going across not only State lines but international lines (driving through Canada). Near the end of the conversation she told me not to let her daughter get away with being a brat. I told her that I'd treat her like my own daughter.

This caused her to heap praise on my parenting skills - strict and lovingly devoted - that her and other mother's had noticed year after year, daughter after daughter. This single mother even told me that she trusts me with her daughter more than she trusts herself! The reason being that she admitted getting wrapped up in the emotional games and she KNOWS I don't fall for that ONE LITTLE BIT but stay calmly on point.

• Can you imagine the feminists in this thread admitting they trust a man with their daughter more than they trust themselves?
• Can you imagine the feminists in this thread being told they should trust a man with their daughter more than they trust themselves?

It was humbling. (The mother gave me a great reputation to live up to. That is the true power of the feminine. The last thing I wanted to do is not live up to the trust she invested in me.) These mother's were in awe of the father I was yet my marriage ended over it.

 

[MA2444]

To be head of household and to be spiritual leader can be different.

My father was a passive non opinionated man most of the time. This frustrated me growing up so I picked a man who had strong opinions and was outspoken. I told him while we were dating I wanted him to be a spiritual leader. He had never considered such a thing but he wanted my hand in marriage so he agreed.

His leadership in the beginning was...immature and somewhat insufferable just like my "submission' was. We didnt see our parents live this out or any other couple. We argued a lot. I separated from him on three separate occasion, running back home away from our problems.

Fast forward.

I have forgiven and choose to honor my Dad because he loves me and it is the right thing to do. In Christ I am perfectly fathered, no daddy issues to speak of.

Elijah's leadership began to take on a Christlike nature and he became several times more confident. I dont get credit for the beginning but once I stopped running and got fully invested, I was committed to building him up. I stopped allowing my mother to criticize him harshly in my presence. She never did it again.

We were poor but I quit working anyway. Elijah said hed figure out the finances. He just drove a cab at the time. He reached success through commercial truck driving.

Christ became the head of our home. Thay is what made the difference. He rose to the call to love me as Christ loved the Church. I became a submissive and supportive Bride no longer wanting the greener grass. My own household is the best place for me and Elijah is the best man for me.

I guess all this to say point your families to Christ. When Christ is head of a household, everything else prospers in due time.

His leadership in the beginning was...immature and somewhat insufferable just like my "submission' was. We didnt see our parents live this out or any other couple. We argued a lot. I separated from him on three separate occasion, running back home away from our problems.

Sounds like you made a good call there, Sister. !! I was a day late and a dollar short. I was still looking at spiritual issues, uh philosophsically so I didnt begin looking at Him as God until later.

 

[Wynona]

Sounds like you made a good call there, Sister. !! I was a day late and a dollar short. I was still looking at spiritual issues, uh philosophsically so I didnt begin looking at Him as God until later.

Sometimes I wonder what it wouldve been like to have not separated. I regret certain aspects of the separations. But I had come from a peaceful home and he had learned endurance arguing from his household.

I had no clue what to do with that. We each had so much adjustinh to do. And I had a lot of single college girlfriends and unsupportive parents to give me bad advice.

Everyone thought we would divorce.

I think the main reason we didn't was God convicting Elijah's heart to forgive me and us both being our first serious relationship. People dont want to hear this today but body count and virtue does greatly affect a marriage.

I would never tell a woman I cared about to go sleeping around for "empowerment". This was a horrible thing for the women's lib movement to do.

 

[Wrangler]

Neutralized many of the schemes? Uh...if it were possible for you to be wrong about that, it would mean that, they got away with way more than you ever dreamed of! Maybe, I dunno!.

LOL Possibly. What I meant is their sisters unintentionally neutralized their schemes. Using sleep overs as an example. My wife and I became experts in logistics.

• Drop off child A at time A.
• Pick up child B at time B.
• Drop off Child C at time C.
• Next day do it all again in reverse.

We could tell it would be easier logistically if we altered the times a bit. This caused all kinds of angst with no good explanations = scheme neutralized. LOL

One scheme involved sleeping over a friends house the middle child slept at for years. Before she was dropped off a mother of another friend told of the scheme. There was a high school basketball in Canada and hotel rooms with all night parties.

I played it cool. Said the jig was up. Still, the girl protested accusing the mother of lying. I asked why would a mother drive over to my house to lie about this? She could offer no good reason. So, I retreated to the bedroom to take care of some bills. Confident her mother, my wife, recognizing this was W-W-W-W-W-W-wrong and would have the moral fortitude to impose proportional disciplinary measures.

I was wrong.

My wife came into the closed bedroom door to humbly ask me what I think - as if it was rocket science. You see, she was so used to being the defense lawyer for the kids with me in the role of prosecutor, she could not function in my absence. She needed me as the bad guy. LOL

I got her to stipulate that whatever punishment we come up with that we do no alter it upon teen angst and emotionalism, etc. She agreed but later regretted me holding her accountable to her word as a cheer leading banquet loomed during the grounding interval. A stupid couples counselor said she should have gone back on her word since the banquet meant so much to the teen. What integrity means to the father being deemed irrelevant. Feminism is an evil ideology.

 

[Wrangler]

People dont want to hear this today but body count and virtue does greatly affect a marriage.

This is because it affects a woman, primarily, in her ability to pair bond. There is emerging science on this, what everyone already knows. I already posted dozens of vids on this point. In one vid, the couple said their body counts out loud at the same time. He said 8 while she said 315. She could not figure out why he dumped her that very day.

No man wants to be with a woman with a history of treating men as disposable. The past IS an indicator of future performance. One lie our society tells is how hard it is to get a man to commit. Wrong. The man is committed. He asks the girl on a date. He stands at the alter before God and family risking humiliation. It is women who struggle to commit and body count is an objective measure of this virtue lacking.

There is a song by the Cars with a line that says, "It doesn't matter where you've been - as long as it was neat." It means a history of LTR, of commitment is OK. Feminists who put themselves in the pump and dump category have no one to blame but themselves. My stepdaughters are in the 30's and their resume's consist of 1 man since high school. I believe I taught them commitment.

The stupidly arrogant feminist mantra is, "I don't need a man." Well if you don't need one, you shouldn't have one. The only reason I have a screw driver, hammer or wrench is because I need them!

 

[Wynona]

This is because it affects a woman, primarily, in her ability to pair bond. There is emerging science on this, what everyone already knows. I already posted dozens of vids on this point. In one vid, the couple said their body counts out loud at the same time. He said 8 while she said 315. She could not figure out why he dumped her that very day.

No man wants to be with a woman with a history of treating men as disposable. The past IS an indicator of future performance. One lie our society tells is how hard it is to get a man to commit. Wrong. The man is committed. He asks the girl on a date. He stands at the alter before God and family risking humiliation. It is women who struggle to commit and body count is an objective measure of this virtue lacking.

There is a song by the Cars with a line that says, "It doesn't matter where you've been - as long as it was neat." It means a history of LTR, of commitment is OK. Feminists who put themselves in the pump and dump category have no one to blame but themselves. My stepdaughters are in the 30's and their resume's consist of 1 man since high school. I believe I taught them commitment.

The stupidly arrogant feminist mantra is, "I don't need a man." Well if you don't need one, you shouldn't have one. The only reason I have a screw driver, hammer or wrench is because I need them!

People will sit back and call you archaic and horrible for saying these things. They want to act like a woman's past doesn't matter.

I used to volunteer at a crisis pregnancy resource center. We interviewed a woman who admitted to a 15 plus body count. But the other things we had to count were her laundry list of sexually transmitted diseases.

The sad thing is that greed is now motivating all. these women in Gen Z and Gen Alpha to rack up bodies to sell content online. Not only does this expose them to STD's it ruins their reputations forever and makes their children targets for bullying.

Bullies are now singling out those they don't like by pulling up their Mom's content for the schoolyard to see.


Some of you are older than me. No, I do not think feminism was ever the solution to anything in the past. But I just want to say that I have heard many women lie about beinv victims of abuse when it either never happened or they themselves were the abusers. By the time the truth is discovered, the man's reputation is destroyed.

My generation is the #meToo, "believe all women, "trans women are women", "more than two genders", "toxic masculinity", "genderless bathroom" "conservative gen z men liberal gen z women", "shout your abortion" era.

I have never seen a woman criticized for being rebellious. I have seen many men constantly henpecked, cuckolded, and ultimately discarded by their girlfriends. The type of women who do goddess worship and tarot cards.

This is where America is now. I have been mocked for respecting my husband and nowlt working a traditional job. Yet, had I kept trying to have a career, I wouldn't have had my two beautiful children. The other women in my family struggle with infertility and childlessness in their mid thirties and 40s. Is their career success making up the difference? Apparently not.

 

[Wrangler]

People will sit back and call you archaic and horrible for saying these things.

Still true. It takes courage to speak the truth when people are indoctrinated with a lie.

But I just want to say that I have heard many women lie about beinv victims of abuse when it either never happened or they themselves were the abusers. By the time the truth is discovered, the man's reputation is destroyed.

My generation is the #meToo, "believe all women,

Showing todays feminists are the biggest sexists.

I have never seen a woman criticized for being rebellious.

Sinful women today are applauded, called ‘strong.’

I have seen many men constantly henpecked, cuckolded, and ultimately discarded by their girlfriends.

Feminists take no responsibility for the direction and hateful place feminism is today. There is a sick pleasure in causing men to suffer. Demonic.

 

[Wrangler]

motivating all. these women in Gen Z and Gen Alpha to rack up bodies to sell content online. Not only does this expose them to STD's it ruins their reputations forever and makes their children targets for bullying.

The science is even worse on the psychological level. In the street it ms called ‘damaged goods’, technically her ability to pair bond is ruined, never achieving the joy with a man her husband that God intended.

 

[Wynona]

The science is even worse on the psychological level. In the street it ms called ‘damaged goods’, technically her ability to pair bond is ruined, never achieving the joy with a man her husband that God intended.

I wont cower from representing and telling the truth. A woman's first time is meant to be with a worthy committed man ---a husband.

A husband is a covering. Today we act like a husband is useless but he is a covering for his wife.

When I return to the same man and work in my home, I am way more safe, fulfilled, and protected than I am alone or trying to live some independent lifestyle with a series of failed relationships or one night stands. Our children are just that ---ours together.

IMuch of Scripture is preventative and not prescriptive. Once your pair bonding is gone, its gone.

 

[Wrangler]

Much of Scripture is preventative and not prescriptive. Once your pair bonding is gone, its gone.

Evil is guilty of false advertising by necessity. No one would fall for, "Enter this door to destroy yourself psychologically." Pride, vanity, flattery is a far more effective hook.

I would never tell a woman I cared about to go sleeping around for "empowerment". This was a horrible thing for the women's lib movement to do.

Enter this door to be empowered and strong and the line is generations long.

Many of the vids I've posted reveal a sad fact. Older women are so competitive, they don't warn younger women of the dangers of feminism. About a month ago I posted a vid featuring the actress who played Lois Lane in Lois and Clark. She is now a 50+ year old single cat lady who would be mocked by her younger self.

Also, she'd admitted her dating life has cooled off but pretends the cats more than make up for it. The wall is undefeated and these women sound like a person who's trying to convince themselves of what they do not believe. She refused to "settle" for a 1%er.

Not "settling" is another ego, vanity gambit that works very well. Do you remember the joke I posted about the wife store? It is funny because it is so true.

 

[Wynona]

Many of the vids I've posted reveal a sad fact. Older women are so competitive, they don't warn younger women of the dangers of feminism.

I will.

Feminism pretends to be pro-woman when it is really a cocktail of misery designed to give more taxable income to the government, promote lgbtq and pedophilic rights, erase the nature of what a woman is, and convince countless women to pursue career and independence at the expense of their future happiness, children and a good romantic relationship.

Abortion, the murder of the unborn, is undeniably the worst result of the movement. But lets not forget the needless divorces, broken families, and sexually transmitted diseases following the advent of the women's liberation movement.