Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[TLHKAJ]

Per usual, you have missed the point.

No one is denying that poor choices or wrong choices cannot make the unhappy. To me, what you have implied is that women cannot make choices all together and that men should make all their choices for them.

Exactly! :)

 

[Ritajanice]

LOL. Denying women can make choices that make themselves unhappy. So funny! Then blame me for dictating AS IF God's plan is for women to be unhappy. John 10:10

If I was married, which I’m not, just saying if I was, I would submit to my husband and he would have the final word...I would consult my husband before I made any serious choice....a husband and wife are one and should compliment each other...the husband should be respected and obeyed....I don’t mean, like a door mat....

As a divorcee...I try and speak with God and ask him to help me make the right choices in my life....he sent me to a nutritionist, because the food I was eating was making me depressed and unwell.....God is good .

 

[Naomanos]

I would consult my husband before I made any serious choice....a husband and wife are one and should compliment each other...the husband should be respected

That’s pretty much how my marriage with my fiance will be, but she will not need to submit to me and can consult me about serious choices, but I will not have final say. I trust her to make the decision. If it is wrong, it is wrong. We’ll deal with it and move forward. I won’t make right choices either, so not showing her the same respect that she will show me is wrong.

I also do not need her to obey me. She’s not a child. She’s a grown woman. She can make her own choices, even if I do not agree with them.

 

[Ritajanice]

God has shown me that if I was to marry, then the husband is the head of the household...I go by Gods word...

 

[Ritajanice]

That’s pretty much how my marriage with my fiance will be, but she will not need to submit to me and can consult me about serious choices, but I will not have final say. I trust her to make the decision. If it is wrong, it is wrong. We’ll deal with it and move forward. I won’t make right choices either, so not showing her the same respect that she will show me is wrong.

I also do not need her to obey me. She’s not a child. She’s a grown woman. She can make her own choices, even if I do not agree with them.

That’s your choice.

I would submit to my husband as I submit to God.and I would obey him, there is nothing childish in obeying a husband..I obey God is that childish?

God and my would be husband would have my best interests at heart...

My husband would have the final say..a wife shows a husband respect....plus I would want to please my husband more than myself...true love is selfless, it always thinks of the other persons needs.....

 

[Naomanos]

God has shown me that if I was to marry, then the husband is the head of the household...I go by Gods word...

And that’s fine. I have no issues with that, if that is how you want your marriage to be.

I happen to disagree with the interpretation that the woman has to submit and the man doesn’t. I am also not someone that needs submission from my wife. She’s a grown adult woman. If I have to have a woman submit to me, then I am marrying a child, not a woman.

 

[TLHKAJ]

That’s pretty much how my marriage with my fiance will be, but she will not need to submit to me and can consult me about serious choices, but I will not have final say. I trust her to make the decision. If it is wrong, it is wrong. We’ll deal with it and move forward. I won’t make right choices either, so not showing her the same respect that she will show me is wrong.

I also do not need her to obey me. She’s not a child. She’s a grown woman. She can make her own choices, even if I do not agree with them.

Beautiful. And honestly, I don't mind running major choices by my husband to make those choices together. And I don't mind my husband having final say, as long as he gives me a voice and seriously considers my insights, concerns, preferences, and advice. There have been many times that my concerns and advice were not heard and we ended up paying dearly ....financially, emotionally, physically (healthwise), etc. It was his choice, but we'd have been out of debt 15 years ago had he listened.

One thing that stands in the way with some men is pride. They don't want to admit that a woman might have some good and beneficial input. It's frustrating. So much for being a help meet in a relationship like that. They don't want a help meet. They want a piece of property ....a maid, a cook, s.x handy, and have her pinned under their thumb.

Thankfully, not all men are that way.

 

[Ritajanice]

And that’s fine. I have no issues with that, if that is how you want your marriage to be.

I happen to disagree with the interpretation that the woman has to submit and the man doesn’t. I am also not someone that needs submission from my wife. She’s a grown adult woman. If I have to have a woman submit to me, then I am marrying a child, not a woman.

I submit my will over to God, that doesn’t make me a child....

God says wives submit to your husbands...I obey the word of God...and submission to my husband doesn’t make me a child..imo, it shows that I’m honouring God and his word.

Each to their own at the end of the day.

Plus God says, do not argue...unedifying and unfruitful...plus it shows a lack of immaturity, been there done all that...forever learning in Christ.

 

[Naomanos]

I would submit to my husband as I submit to God.and I would obey him, there is nothing childish in obeying a husband..I obey God is that childish?

Obeying God is not childish. I’m not God. I am an adult flawed man.

God and my would be husband have my best interests at heart...

I agree. I have her best interests at heart and she mine. I wouldn’t marry her if she didn’t. Marriage is give and take, by both spouses and it isn’t one-sided.

My husband would have the final say..a wife shows a husband respect

Which is fine, but I don’t have to have final say to be shown respect.

 

[Naomanos]

plus I would want to please my husband more than myself

Yes, and so want to please my future wife more than myself and her me, but she doesn’t need to submit to me for me to feel pleased.

and submission to my husband doesn’t make me a child..imo

That was my opinion.

it shows that I’m honouring God and his word.

Which can be done without the woman submitting. Again, my opinion based of the thinking that only a woman has to submit.

 

[Ritajanice]

One thing that stands in the way with some men is pride. They don't want to admit that a woman might have some good and beneficial input. It's frustrating. So much for being a help meet in a relationship like that. They don't want a help meet. They want a piece of property ....s.x handy and have her pinned under their thumb

Yes, I agree, do you think men have more pride/ ego than woman?

On saying that I have also see some woman wanting to rule the nest...I used to be one such woman as a non believer that I once was....I was very dominant and controlling....it was as you say, all about pride and ego.

 

[Ritajanice]

Yes, and so want to please my future wife more than myself and her me, but she doesn’t need to submit to me for me to feel pleased.



That was my opinion.



Which can be done without the woman submitting. Again, my opinion based of the thinking that only a woman has to submit.

God tells us wives to submit to our husbands....if I was married..I would go by Gods word....not the opinions of how other husband and wives live their lives.

If I was in a marriage...there would be 3 of us...God first, then the husband then me.....we would both be submissive to the word of God...devout Born Agains...I could never marry a non believer.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Yes, I agree, do you think men have more pride/ ego than woman?

Absolutely. You may disagree, but in 99.9% of the issues that have popped up in my relationship, it was me who initiated reconciliation, apologizing even when it wasn't my doings that brought the conflict. Men are not as strong as women in most ways ...only physically.

 

[Wrangler]

If I was married, which I’m not, just saying if I was, I would submit to my husband and he would have the final word...I would consult my husband before I made any serious choice....a husband and wife are one and should compliment each other...the husband should be respected and obeyed....I don’t mean, like a door mat....

As a divorcee...I try and speak with God and ask him to help me make the right choices in my life....he sent me to a nutritionist, because the food I was eating was making me depressed and unwell.....God is good .

RJ, you are a Godly women, like @Wynona. Most of the vids I post here reveal the trouble feminism's biggest victims, women, have as a consequence to rejecting God's way.

The vid in post #2528 with the 1960's Twilight episode showed the girl hugging Chad, repeatedly and excitedly saying 'make me happy.' No person can make you happy. This is just one flaw but the biggest is how feminism repeats the Original Sin in attempting to glorify self rather than God. Notice the contentious spirit @TLHKAJ and others reveal in this thread? This is not the spirit of God. Their attack on me - for pointing out the sin of embracing this worldly evil - shows the devotion they have to the feminism IDOL

Walking among the rubble in Nuremberg in 1945, it would have been hard to imagine that of the 3 great isms of the 20th century - feminism, communism, and fascism - feminism would turn out to be the most deadly and destructive to society. As the non-triumphant feminists in this thread stroke their ego in proudly announcing I cannot control them (AS IF that is my goal), Rome burns, society crumbles obliviously around them as they applaud 'you go girl.' Very sad.
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[Ritajanice]

Absolutely. You may disagree, but in 99.9% of the issues that have popped up in my relationship, it was me who initiated reconciliation, apologizing even when it wasn't my doings that brought the conflict. Men are not as strong as women in most ways ...only physically.

I agree..I see the pride and ego of some men on this forum...including mine at times...God is showing me to let go of pride and stop the arguing...he’s been very, very patient with me...I know that if I continue, I will be disciplined by God...I won’t be continuing..I’ve been disciplined by God in the past....I ain’t going through that again..LOL..

 

[TLHKAJ]

On saying that I have also see some woman wanting to rule the nest...I used to be one such woman as a non believer that I once was....I was very dominant and controlling....

That was never my situation. And I have known a handful of women who were domineering and the man was weak and lacking. There is a godly balance. No woman should be denied a voice, or choices, or equal partnership in a marriage. He is the head, and as such, he should make the final choice ....even if his choice is to allow his wife to make choices on her own without him. (But ...I want partnership, not autonomy, in a marriage.) With the right man+woman, something like what @Naomanos explained can absolutely work, and beautifully.

I don't appreciate that a man overrun with pride will rather make his wife and children live in financial bondage (and other bondage) just because he didn't want to hear and receive his wife's concerns and advice.

 

[Naomanos]

not the opinions of how other husband and wives live their lives.

Which is my exact plan, which includes married couples here.

You do marriage your way and I will do it mine. I have no issues with that and believe I have said as much throughout this thread.

 

[Ritajanice]

Notice the contentious spirit @TLHKAJ

Brother, I hope @TLHKAJ is ok with me saying this..if not let me know Sister and I will delete this post.

She has had a horrendous childhood...I can’t even begin to imagine what she went through as a child growing up...I think we need to show compassion and empathy for others and what they have been through.

You probably won’t agree...not sure...I try and understand why people are the way they are...we’ve all come from completely different backgrounds.....I came from a dis functional and emotionally abusive family who broke my spirit...not feeling sorry for myself..just sharing.

Gods Love has changed me beyond my comprehension...He is the only one who has been able to get through to my heart/ spirit..his Love penetrates my heart ....there is no Love on the planet like Gods Love..none can love me like my Father God......no man has ever been able to penetrate my heart or love me like God...plus I’ve been married x 2..LOL.

 

[Naomanos]

Notice the contentious spirit @TLHKAJ and others reveal in this thread? This is not the spirit of God. Their attack on me - for pointing out the sin of embracing this worldly evil - shows the devotion they have to the feminism IDOL

We don’t have a contentious spirit, not in the least. Just because we don’t agree with you, doesn’t make us contentious. We just disagree with you.

I am not a feminist. I didn’t even know what it was till I joined Christian forums. I have always been how I have described. I have never changed my view on marriage and was never influenced on marriage beyond my grandparents who were happily married 59 years and their marriage is what I am basing mine on.

 

[Wrangler]

She has had a horrendous childhood...I can’t even begin to imagine what she went through as a child growing up...I think we need to show compassion and empathy for others and what they have been through.

That's my understanding also, that she had a horrendous childhood and I have expressed compassion several times. Hence my mantra:
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