Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Mink57]

See now waaay long time ago (Lol) when we me & my wife set up shop together it was different generation then and I told her that I pay all the bills and she don't have to work because she does work at taking care of the kids and cleaning house, and that's fine. But that, after the kids were a little older and she ever wanted to get a job then she could keep all her money for her self. Just because she got a job doesn't relieve me of my responsibilities nor should it. So she can keep it. And I stuck to it over the years. She did eventually get herself a job and I never did ask her her for any money.

But I would catch her on payday after a busy week and ask her, did you have a good week this week? And she looked at me sideways and said slowly, yees. Then I said, me too, I did two installs this week so I figured share the wealth and I hand her $1500 bucks. I figured providing for her and the family is one thing but she's still my girl and a guy likes to give his girl cash, they always like that! If she didn't have a job, I would give her money, so why not because she got a job? And I used to do that to her quite a bit so she knew I spoke the truth.

I was short for my bills a few times because the economy started sliding down and she paid the bills and handled al my books for the family and for the business and she never let anything go that she had the money for if she pitched in, so she did because she knew I wasn't stingy with her. I never asked her for money. I don't get it how more modern generations gen z or whatever make their girl split the bills? Like she has to work and she shouldn't have to except at home. But girls don't want to clean house any more, wow.

I'll admit that eventually after my wife divorced me I live alone now and have to do all the housework all the time myself. Now I know just how hard that little girl worked all those years. She kept a spotless house. It's so much work constantly every day that I found an awesome appreciation for just how hard she did work. I used to cook for her maybe once a year on her birthday. She cooked dinner that night so she cooked 365 days per year. I'll help my next girl (If) with the cooking. Maybe twice a week instead of once a year!

Ok. So you discovered that housework IS work, because you do it yourself. Good for you to appreciate what your wife was doing. But hold on...she was doing that work AND taking care of the kids AND taking care of YOU. Think you could do the same thing?

That's how it used to be. That's how it's supposed to be. We worked together as a team and gave to each other what we had. So those women who come into the relationship saying, I dont cook or clean...don't enter into a relationship at all. Uh no I'm sorry, I can't make it I have plans this Saturday...Lol! Till death do we part is a long time. Sorry. I've said no to more women than have said yes to me in my life! That's significant if you think about it!

The women on the Internet who make those vids saying they don't cook or clean are not ALL telling the truth.
Plus, there probably ARE SOME men out there who don't want their wives to cook or clean. Of course, those men are probably very wealthy.

 

[Wrangler]

The shooter was apparently a ‘moderate’ feminist. See manifesto excerpt.

 

[Wrangler]

Does supposing there is a spectrum of thought within patriarchy make patriarchy morally good?

Intellectual cowardice to not answer simple questions.

 

[Wrangler]

Maybe you shoulda picked a better guy? Just sayin'

Exactly … I make bad choices; it’s the patriarchy’s fault!

 

[MA2444]

Ok. So you discovered that housework IS work, because you do it yourself. Good for you to appreciate what your wife was doing. But hold on...she was doing that work AND taking care of the kids AND taking care of YOU. Think you could do the same thing?

There's no way that I could do what she did. If I could, my house would look like it had that feminine touch to it. And...it decidedly does not have that feminine touch to it anymore.

I thought it was funny in the 80s when women first started saying, if we got paid for housework, it'd be $50.000 a year! Haha. But minimum wage back then was was about $3.50 an hour and 50 grand works out to $25 an hour!

Somebody should have told them to shut up then, lol. Look where that brought us to today!

The women on the Internet who make those vids saying they don't cook or clean are not ALL telling the truth.
Plus, there probably ARE SOME men out there who don't want their wives to cook or clean. Of course, those men are probably very wealthy.

That's right huh? Women do lie a lot.

My friends in Colorado that, she worked and he did want her to work because he was functionally illiterate plus he hustled on the side and grew pot and stuff so they got along fine. And they sure aint wealthy! They live next door to the city Mission and bought that house because it was a good deal. When me & my wife were shopping for house one time, that place was for rent and we drove over there and out front...and my wife wouldn't even get out of the car and look at the place or tour it. It looks like an abandoned hillbilly shack and is only about 800 sq ft! And my friends came along and bought it! She said see? I wont live south of Uintah St...So we kept looking, lol. So he aint wealthy! A total section 8 type of guy. (He tried to tell me one day that OBama was the greatest president ever and I hit him with some facts and made him real mad!) So I wouldn't discuss politics with him after that, lol.

 

[MA2444]

Exactly … I make bad choices; it’s the patriarchy’s fault!

I been telling her that for months I think, lol. Poor choices have consequences and I don't think she's ever admitted to making a mistake? I don't think so. But, four times? That's not bad luck, that's bad choices!

 

[Mink57]

The shooter was apparently a ‘moderate’ feminist. See manifesto excerpt.

The police have been urging that this manifest NOT be shared until they can authenticate its origin.

The shooter was a 15 year old girl. Doesn't make any sense that a 15 year old girl would write a manifest condemning men, yet kills a 14year old girl.

Not gonna jump to any conclusions here.

 

[Wrangler]

Disney tells the story.

 

[Wynona]

And yes, I also witnessed terrible mother's. But they were terrible because of how they were treating their kids...and NOT because of how clean their house was or wasn't.

Messy is fine. Filthy is not.

 

[Wynona]

And no...egalitarian doesn't mean the woman gets her way 90% of the time. Many men and women these days want an EQUAL partner. Shared responsibilities. Shared decision-making. If SHE wants Chinese food and HE wants Mexican food, HE doesn't get to have the final say, and insist on Mexican! They NEGOTIATE. Maybe SHE comes up with a third option. Maybe HE does.

Negotiation goes on in any healthy relationship. Leadership and micro managing aren't the same thing.

 

[Wynona]

And while you may pride yourself on your own happy marriage, how many egalitarian marriages have you seen?

Pretty much all the married folk I know approach things this way. This includes my parents and my husband's parents. My brother and both uncles.

How many submissive wives have you seen?

 

[MA2444]

Messy is fine. Filthy is not.

My ex-wife kept a spotless house so anything I do around here falls short of her housekeeping, lol. I'm with you on this one, messy & clean underneath is fine, just not filthy.

One time the Lord said something to me like, there are no crowns in heaven for a clean house! I feel better now! I miss that feminine touch to the house though.

 

[Wynona]

My ex-wife kept a spotless house so anything I do around here falls short of her housekeeping, lol. I'm with you on this one, messy & clean underneath is fine, just not filthy.

One time the Lord said something to me like, there are no crowns in heaven for a clean house! I feel better now! I miss that feminine touch to the house though.

Merry Christmas!

Cleaning well takes skill. I put it above scrolling on social media but below enjoying life with hubby and kids. I try to clean well and fast so I don't have to do it all the time.

When my cleaning matches my cooking, Ill know Ive really done something. However, even that is a baseline. Clean and well decorated what stands out.

 

[Wrangler]

And yes, I also witnessed terrible mother's. But they were terrible because of how they were treating their kids...and NOT because of how clean their house was or wasn't.

Terrible mothers are also terrible because of how they treat the kids father.

 

[Naomanos]

Merry Christmas!

 

[Mink57]

Pretty much all the married folk I know approach things this way. This includes my parents and my husband's parents. My brother and both uncles.

How many submissive wives have you seen?

Depends on what you mean by "submissive".

Plus, Eph 5 CLEARLY says that we are to "submit to one another" That INCLUDES husband's submitting to their wives!

 

[Mink57]

Terrible mothers are also terrible because of how they treat the kids father.

And terrible father's are terrible because of how they treat the kid's MOTHER.

 

[Wrangler]

And terrible father's are terrible because of how they treat the kid's MOTHER.

Equality is not an escape from responsibility.

 

[Mink57]

Messy is fine. Filthy is not.

Messy and filthy are both subjective.
What one person calls 'messy' another calls 'lived-in'.

 

[Mink57]

Equality is not an escape from responsibility.

You're right...
...which is WHY both the husband AND the wife have the responsibility to submit to one another.