Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Wynona]

Feminism is really effective in sawing at the branch women sit on. That branch in America is Christian patriarchy.

We really don't want to live in a society where men do not feel compelled to support and protect the weak and vulnerable. That's women and children.

Feminism undermines that protection by pitting women against their interest to the harm of everyone involved. Divorce and the 80% female initiation of it is just one example.

 

[Wynona]

Improved things for women? In what way(s)?

Two examples:

Christianity improved on the Jewish treatment of women at the time.

When Jesus walked the earth, the Pharisees loved to debate about reasons to put away their wives and asked Jesus to answer on the topic in Matthew 19:3-11.

Jesus responded that the marriage of a man and woman are two becoming one flesh and putting away one's wife caused her to commit adultery, save for fornication.

The pharisees were cruel and hypocritical for looking for reasons to divorce their wives. The women were dependent on men for survival. Jesus' insistence of men honoring their covenants held them accountable for not protecting their wive's interests and being self centered.



Another example is China. Historically, the best a woman could do was become a concubine to a man of high royal rank. One of many competing to perhaps be empress.

In recent times, under the Chinese one-child per parent set law, unborn females were often aborted so often that there are now not enough women to marry the males. China then had to reverse the one-child policy. In societies where women are judged by percieved value rather than inherent divinely created value, women are treated as disposable and worthless.

The spread of Christianity in China now will only improve women's lives and change the course of the nation's history. Abortion and Christianity are at complete odds and I hope this is obvious.

 

[MA2444]

Improved things for women? In what way(s)?

Patriarchy helped both men and women because it let the Fathers pick her husband. It may sound bad to say it but the reality is that women do not choose husbands wisely. That messes up the whole family when she marry's some jerk. They get divorced, she comes home again and subjects the whole house to her stress and extra outlays of cash because the bum aint around and dont carry his weight. Maybe she'll chosse better next time?

Whoops she got divorced again too because she didnt choose wisely again. No wonder the Fathers started making them pay up front with a Dowry! And the dowry will help care for her after he abandons her. She's got a new boyfriend though! Uh-Oh, wonder what his problem is?
All those guys who will sleep with any woman they can find have no scruples and bring nothing to the table except their seed. They are a sub-culture of good men that know no other but to be like that.
Fathers are men also so we all know what makes a good wife and what makes a good husband.

For some reason the daughter was allowed to choose a husband for herself and the sepent deceived her for a short term thrill. She fell for it. Why do women choose from the sub-culture of men? The so called, bad boys. It's that emotional thrill they get from those guys. They did finally marry her off again, lol. She just called and she's getting divorced again. Her Dad said no again, you should have let ME pick you a husband! Everyone would have been better off. You think us Fathers cant spot bab boys and chase them off? She might hate daddy for awhile but after she was married, she would have understood over time and been happy about it. Everybody wins with a Patriarchy in place!

I can't remember how many times I have thanked God and given Him glory, that I never had daughters! (I might've hurt somebody!). I was blessed with sons.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Feminism is really effective in sawing at the branch women sit on. That branch in America is Christian patriarchy.

We really don't want to live in a society where men do not feel compelled to support and protect the weak and vulnerable. That's women and children.

Feminism undermines that protection by pitting women against their interest to the harm of everyone involved. Divorce and the 80% female initiation of it is just one example.

Whats amazing is how the feminist movement will not even stand up to the trans unit. A unit that is totally destroying not only women’s rights, but what a woman is

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Patriarchy helped both men and women because it let the Fathers pick her husband. It may sound bad to say it but the reality is that women do not choose husbands wisely. That messes up the whole family when she marry's some jerk. They get divorced, she comes home again and subjects the whole house to her stress and extra outlays of cash because the bum aint around and dont carry his weight. Maybe she'll chosse better next time?

Whoops she got divorced again too because she didnt choose wisely again. No wonder the Fathers started making them pay up front with a Dowry! And the dowry will help care for her after he abandons her. She's got a new boyfriend though! Uh-Oh, wonder what his problem is?
All those guys who will sleep with any woman they can find have no scruples and bring nothing to the table except their seed. They are a sub-culture of good men that know no other but to be like that.
Fathers are men also so we all know what makes a good wife and what makes a good husband.

For some reason the daughter was allowed to choose a husband for herself and the sepent deceived her for a short term thrill. She fell for it. Why do women choose from the sub-culture of men? The so called, bad boys. It's that emotional thrill they get from those guys. They did finally marry her off again, lol. She just called and she's getting divorced again. Her Dad said no again, you should have let ME pick you a husband! Everyone would have been better off. You think us Fathers cant spot bab boys and chase them off? She might hate daddy for awhile but after she was married, she would have understood over time and been happy about it. Everybody wins with a Patriarchy in place!

I can't remember how many times I have thanked God and given Him glory, that I never had daughters! (I might've hurt somebody!). I was blessed with sons.

Men pick wrong women too. Don’t put it on just the woman to chose..

and i will be honest, the parents do nto always chose the right mates either..

 

[Mink57]

Patriarchy helped both men and women because it let the Fathers pick her husband. It may sound bad to say it but the reality is that women do not choose husbands wisely. That messes up the whole family when she marry's some jerk. They get divorced, she comes home again and subjects the whole house to her stress and extra outlays of cash because the bum aint around and dont carry his weight. Maybe she'll chosse better next time?

Plenty of men don't choose their partner's wisely either. Some women can be quite obnoxious, yet the men are captivated by her beauty. Thinking with the little head instead of the big head. So, the pendulum swings both ways in that regard.

Oh...and since MOST women are employed these days, after she gets divorced she doesn't go crying home. Most likely, she can support herself. After my divorce, I never went back home.

Whoops she got divorced again too because she didnt choose wisely again. No wonder the Fathers started making them pay up front with a Dowry! And the dowry will help care for her after he abandons her. She's got a new boyfriend though! Uh-Oh, wonder what his problem is?
All those guys who will sleep with any woman they can find have no scruples and bring nothing to the table except their seed.

I agree. The same with those women who will sleep with any man. She tends to view her 'lady parts' as having power over these men. But what else does she bring to the table? *Crickets*

They are a sub-culture of good men that know no other but to be like that.

No, no. If they were 'good' men, they wouldn't be sleeping with a bunch of women in the first place.

Fathers are men also so we all know what makes a good wife and what makes a good husband.

For some reason the daughter was allowed to choose a husband for herself and the sepent deceived her for a short term thrill. She fell for it. Why do women choose from the sub-culture of men? The so called, bad boys. It's that emotional thrill they get from those guys. They did finally marry her off again, lol. She just called and she's getting divorced again. Her Dad said no again, you should have let ME pick you a husband!

You act as if all Father's know best. I've known of several father's who were disappointed in the mate their daughters chose. They would have chosen someone different who the daughters dated. Meanwhile, the father's would-be choice often turned out to be either abusive, and drug addict or a bum who wouldn't work. Makes me wonder what criteria those father's used in mate selection.

Everyone would have been better off. You think us Fathers cant spot bab boys and chase them off?

Sometimes not.

She might hate daddy for awhile but after she was married, she would have understood over time and been happy about it. Everybody wins with a Patriarchy in place!

That's a crock.

I can't remember how many times I have thanked God and given Him glory, that I never had daughters! (I might've hurt somebody!). I was blessed with sons.

I have 2 daughters. My oldest daughter dated a boy through most of high school. My husband liked her boyfriend. I didn't. My daughter broke up with him right after high school. Husband was disappointed. I was elated. Daughter told me that boyfriend had started to become controlling. He assumed they would get married right out of high school. She told him to take a flying leap. Thank goodness.

No. Father's don't always know best.

 

[Mink57]

Whats amazing is how the feminist movement will not even stand up to the trans unit. A unit that is totally destroying not only women’s rights, but what a woman is

Yeah. I never understood that line of thinking. I'm guessing that it's not so much of a feminist issue, but more of a human rights issue. That is, that ANY human being should be allowed to choose their gender, and not simply accept how they were born. As much as I like to remain open-minded in most cases, in THIS case....yeah. No. Just...no.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yeah. I never understood that line of thinking. I'm guessing that it's not so much of a feminist issue, but more of a human rights issue. That is, that ANY human being should be allowed to choose their gender, and not simply accept how they were born. As much as I like to remain open-minded in most cases, in THIS case....yeah. No. Just...no.

A true feminist in my mind, would fight for women’s right. A biological male undressing in a woman’s locker room, or watching them undress, and using their God given male strength to defeat them in sports and take away their medals and awards to me is so anti the feminist movement that I am dumbfounded they do not fight it.

 

[Wrangler]

A true feminist in my mind, would fight for women’s right. A biological male undressing in a woman’s locker room, or watching them undress, and using their God given male strength to defeat them in sports and take away their medals and awards to me is so anti the feminist movement that I am dumbfounded they do not fight it.

The reason feminists don't reject trans is feminism has embraced intersectionality of Cultural Marxism. It's the same with the absurdity of LGBT supporting Palestinian Islamists, who would throw LGBT off roof tops if they were in power. Cultural Marxism makes strange bedfellows when one looks at the Differentia of the different groups.

The genus is none of these disparate groups are progressive but regressive. Aiming at denying ones capacity to differentiate, the end game of all collectivist ideologies, making such a world easy pickings for Satan.

"The patriarchy," by contrast, is a merit based ideology, which has positively moved humanity from the cave men era. Meritocracy cannot co-exist with tribal, collectivist ideologies for they are mutually exclusive. (Of course, society is in a state of flux; meaning, I am not talking about the practical change over time but rather timeless philosophical concepts). That reminds me of the niave bumper sticker "coexist." Such a proponent does not understand the fundamentals.

2 Corinthians 6:14-16
The Voice
14 Don’t develop partnerships with those who are not followers of Jesus’ teachings. For what real connection can exist between righteousness and rebellion? How can light participate in darkness? 15 What harmony can exist between the Anointed and Satan?[a] Do the faithful and the faithless have anything in common? 16 Can the temple of God find common ground with idols? Don’t you see that we house the temple of the living God within us?

 

[Wynona]

Thus revealing the worldly foundation of feminism, seeking external validation from men … if only men did X… Now, a century later, feminists are less happy.

They cannot humbly admit their ideology is inherently and fatally flawed for validation comes from a proper relationship within, with your Creator.

This is great

 

[MA2444]

Men pick wrong women too. Don’t put it on just the woman to chose..

and i will be honest, the parents do nto always chose the right mates either..

Some men do pick wrong women. I aint just putting it on the woman to choose. I'm saying the opposite, the Fathers should choose for them. There'd be less divorce overall.

 

[amigo de christo]

Some men do pick wrong women. I aint just putting it on the woman to choose. I'm saying the opposite, the Fathers should choose for them. There'd be less divorce overall.

That depends . if the father of the woman knows not THE SON they know not the FATHER
and if they know not HIM , watch out they will choose unwisely .
It also depends upon whether or not also the woman knows the SON and the FATHER who sent HIM .
Because many love sin my friend and the heart of all humanity is wicked from their YOUTH and up .
Oh i do understand what you are trying to imply . But my reminder is MANY DO NOT KNOW CHRIST , DO NOT KNOW THE FATHER
and SIN LIES AT THE DOOR .

 

[Wynona]

This has been my life. I wanted submission but my husband tried to support my career and education goals and do chores around the home. Despite him trying to just step out of my way, I was unhappy and saw him as not stepping up.

Chores and money were constant arguing topics.

The second half of our marriage improved dramatically when I quit working at hubby's request. I just felt relief. Like he really was willing to step up after all.

It turns out, God ordered the woman to be the primary keeper of the home (Titus 2:3-5) for a reason. It is the safest and best place for us. It is not stifling. There are endless opportunities for creativity, talent, and improving the lives of family and community.

I was not a great homemaker when I quit working. Some of my baking was awful. I was trash at cleaning. It took forever and it hardly appeared like I worked at it a lot of days.

But I loved it. I was free to manage my day how I wanted and to keep trying till I improved in ways I enjoyed. My cleaning improved. My cooking got great. I began discovering options for making our lives easier and options for a side hustle that still kept my priorities biblical. I lost a lot of extra weight. I lowered the psyche meds down to hardly anything. No more episodes in a five year period. I am thriving, although not free of challenges. But none of the achievements that were supposed to give me all the power and options really compared to becoming a trusted wife and a new mother.

 

[Wynona]

Some men do pick wrong women. I aint just putting it on the woman to choose. I'm saying the opposite, the Fathers should choose for them. There'd be less divorce overall.

I agree in some regards, although my father would not have picked a Godly man for me. Just a financially savvy one.

Money wouldn't have fixed the problems I brought.

 

[amigo de christo]

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This has been my life. I wanted submission but my husband tried to support my career and education goals and do chores around the home. Despite him trying to just step out of my way, I was unhappy and saw him as not stepping up.

Chores and money were constant arguing topics.

The second half of our marriage improved dramatically when I quit working at hubby's request. I just felt relief. Like he really was willing to step up after all.

It turns out, God ordered the woman to be the primary keeper of the home (Titus 2:3-5) for a reason. It is the safest and best place for us. It is not stifling. There are endless opportunities for creativity, talent, and improving the lives of family and community.

I was not a great homemaker when I quit working. Some of my baking was awful. I was trash at cleaning. It took forever and it hardly appeared like I worked at it a lot of days.

But I loved it. I was free to manage my day how I wanted and to keep trying till I improved in ways I enjoyed. My cleaning improved. My cooking got great. I began discovering options for making our lives easier and options for a side hustle that still kept my priorities biblical. I lost a lot of extra weight. I lowered the psyche meds down to hardly anything. No more episodes in a five year period. I am thriving, although not free of challenges. But none of the achievements that were supposed to give me all the power and options really compared to becoming a trusted wife and a new mother.

If a man and a woman learns godliness with contentment
how the household could have thrived .
The reason so many focus on both parties working is , SO THEY CAN HAVE MORE .
that has led to problems as children are left unattened and the SCHOOL and TV become their guide .
WE need to LEARN some godliness with contentment and focus rather on GOD and all the HOPE we have IN HIM and HIS CHRIST .

 

[amigo de christo]

I agree in some regards, although my father would not have picked a Godly man for me. Just a financially savvy one.

Money wouldn't have fixed the problems I brought.

Bullseye sister . most fathers would focus on THE MONEY of said man , NOT ON whether HE be a christain or not .
That was what i was trying to explain to our dear friend .
IF said father of said daughter knows NOT THE SON , HE knows not the FATHER and , well take a peek at how that works out . NOT GOOD .
IF the daughter of said father knows not the SON , she knows not the FATHER
and thus ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ITS TIME we preach JESUS THE CHRIST and get both the husband and the wife IN TUNE WITH HE and HE ALONE

 

[MA2444]

Plenty of men don't choose their partner's wisely either. Some women can be quite obnoxious, yet the men are captivated by her beauty. Thinking with the little head instead of the big head. So, the pendulum swings both ways in that regard.

Oh...and since MOST women are employed these days, after she gets divorced she doesn't go crying home. Most likely, she can support herself. After my divorce, I never went back home.

Oh, those girls. Yeah they can do that, but when the hit the wall they can go home to their cats and be lonely.

I agree. The same with those women who will sleep with any man. She tends to view her 'lady parts' as having power over these men. But what else does she bring to the table? *Crickets*

Well those are the 304's that are all run through and will be whining when their beauty fades that all men are jerks and why does nobody want her?

No, no. If they were 'good' men, they wouldn't be sleeping with a bunch of women in the first place.

Right, so they pass out of being a good man and begin to be bad boys. The kind that wont marry you.

You act as if all Father's know best. I've known of several father's who were disappointed in the mate their daughters chose. They would have chosen someone different who the daughters dated. Meanwhile, the father's would-be choice often turned out to be either abusive, and drug addict or a bum who wouldn't work. Makes me wonder what criteria those father's used in mate selection.

I didnt say Father cant make mistakes, but instead of being divorced 3 times it might be once. A Father doesnt choose for his daughter the same way that a man chooses his own wife. But they can be wrong. I said the Patriarchy system would make less divorces overall. Not eliminate divorces.

Sometimes not.

So? So men arent perfect. The Father can choose the husband but he cant live the man's life for him.

That's a crock.

You disagree. What else is new? WHat's on the menu for Dagwood sandwiches today?

 

[Mink57]

Oh, those girls. Yeah they can do that, but when the hit the wall they can go home to their cats and be lonely.

Why do you seem to believe that if a woman is alone she is automatically an unhappy lonely cat owner? Not everyone is meant to be or desires to be paired up. Plus, statistically, the HAPPIEST group is younger, single women without children.

By the way, I've lived alone and have had no desire to date for over 10 years. No cats. VERY happy.

Well those are the 304's that are all run through and will be whining when their beauty fades that all men are jerks and why does nobody want her?

Possibly.

Right, so they pass out of being a good man and begin to be bad boys. The kind that wont marry you.

Yeah? And who's fault is that?

I didnt say Father cant make mistakes, but instead of being divorced 3 times it might be once.

Or it STILL might be three times.

A Father doesnt choose for his daughter the same way that a man chooses his own wife.

Not having any daughters, how would you know this?

But they can be wrong.

Since marriage is supposed to be for life, can a father really afford to be wrong?

I said the Patriarchy system would make less divorces overall. Not eliminate divorces.

Patriarchy didn't allow women to get divorced. So yes, of course there would be less divorces. But it is an unfair system.

So? So men arent perfect. The Father can choose the husband but he cant live the man's life for him

Since men aren't perfect then why should the father chose his daughter's husband for her? Shouldn't she have the right to make her own mistakes?

I ask you again, what criteria would a father use to choose a husband for his daughter?

You disagree. What else is new? WHat's on the menu for Dagwood sandwiches today?

 

[Wrangler]

the home... is the safest and best place for us. It is not stifling.

But I loved it. I was free to manage my day how I wanted

I find anyone who says such a thing tells on themselves. Being able to manage how your day goes the way you want means it is only stifling if that is how you want it to be. Seems like many just never grow up, coveting "fun and excitement" all the time and feel responsibility is a drudgery to be hated and is hateful.

 

[MA2444]

Why do you seem to believe that if a woman is alone she is automatically an unhappy lonely cat owner? Not everyone is meant to be or desires to be paired up. Plus, statistically, the HAPPIEST group is younger, single women without children.

Yeah that's something that divorced older women say.

Yeah? And who's fault is that?

It must be those mens fault. Your point?

Not having any daughters, how would you know this?

It's a man secret. I know it. I could tell you what t is but then I'd have to...you know the rest, lol.

Patriarchy didn't allow women to get divorced. So yes, of course there would be less divorces. But it is an unfair system.

What's unfair about it?

Since men aren't perfect then why should the father chose his daughter's husband for her? Shouldn't she have the right to make her own mistakes?

Because women make worse decisions? How stupid was Eve?