Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Mink57]

We agree to that.

In the book Women Can’t Hear What Men Don’t Say, the author points out how there are 3 types of feminism and only the first one is good.

1. Empowerment Feminism
2. Victim Feminism
3. Competitive Feminism

I have sisters, a wife, 7 daughters and 9 granddaughters. I want them to be all they can be, get the most out of life, etc. I don’t want them embracing victim mentality or blaming men for their foolish choice to embrace a an anti-empowerment world view.

Sadly, my wife’s oldest daughter is like you, a Competitive Feminist. The worst part of this foolish choice is she has to live with herself and is absolutely miserable with no coping skills poisoning her 3 children to also have no coping skills. Most affected is not her oldest, a 15 yo football player, already showing signs of rejecting her Competitive Feminism. Most affected is my dear 12 yo granddaughter. Like her mother, showing signs of depressive disorder.

Girl power and girls rule has set her up for catastrophic ego collapse in facing the real world.

I don't even know what competitive feminism is.

 

[Mink57]

Lol. One time I was between girlfriends and my friends set me up on a blind date. I was still half and half sowing my oats and growing up. said ok. We all met at my friends house and the setting was let's all play cards. And while we're sitting there playing cards and drinking a beer I heard my blind date mumble something to herself I think. She said man if I could just get pregnant then I could get on Assisstance and get my chit together...

I had some sort of emergency that nigh. Right after she said that in fact! If I remember right, my mom stubbed her toe, lol. I was out of there! I couldnt believe she said that! Maybe she was drunk and taking out loud? Scared me off quick!

Can you see the abusive girl behind what she said? She showed me the Tatoo on her forehead right then when she said it! A promise of Drama. No thank you.

Oh NOOOOOO to the Heck, NO!!! That's just...

...No.

 

[MA2444]

Figures. Women cannot compete on that plane. Violence solves problems, despite the indoctrination to the contrary.

Not only that but I talked to a chemist and he said that Alcohol is a solution! Sorry, couldnt resist.

 

[MA2444]

Thank you.

Did you notice she did not congratulate me on having moral standards and using them to guide my life and filter people I let into my life based on those standards?

Instead, she asks me to explain why the very first value led filter is even a red flag. Recently, I’ve learned a new movement from man-hating feminists is to attempt to shame men for having ANY preferences. (I referred to that other thread at CyB shaming men for not be willing to marry women with high body counts and even prostitutes. Remember that?

I remember that!

It's a prefrence, lol.
Women like tall men who make over 100K a year, and men like women who really do have a very very small body count. They need to get used to it.

If they can judge men by how tall they are then we can judge them by body count OR how much they weigh. Equality!

 

[Mink57]

Thank you.

Did you notice she did not congratulate me on having moral standards and using them to guide my life and filter people I let into my life based on those standards?

Instead, she asks me to explain why the very first value led filter is even a red flag. Recently, I’ve learned a new movement from man-hating feminists is to attempt to shame men for having ANY preferences. (I referred to that other thread at CyB shaming men for not be willing to marry women with high body counts and even prostitutes. Remember that?

Why should I congratulate you for having moral standards? Aren't you SUPPOSED to have morals?

And I don't think there's anything wrong with EITHER gender having any preferences. But I DO think that there's something wrong with having double standards. Don't expect a LOW 'body count' if YOU DON'T HAVE ONE YOURSELF.

I remember that!

It's a prefrence, lol.
Women like tall men who make over 100K a year, and men like women who really do have a very very small body count. They need to get used to it.

If they can judge men by how tall they are then we can judge them by body count OR how much they weigh. Equality!

Most women I knew weren't deliberately seeking tall men. It wasn't even an issue way back when. Not even during our 'girl talks'. I think the tallest man I dated (yes, dated, not slept with) was 6'4". Talk about awkward! And the shortest man I dated (yes, dated, not slept with) was 5'3". I had no issue with his height, but HE did. Only went on 3-4 dates with the first, and 2 with the second.

I married two men who were around 5'7" (I'm 5'5"). My late husband was CONSTANTLY talking about his height, as he was the 'smallest' in his class up until high school.

And NO ONE that I dated or even married made 100K. Did not bother me.

 

[MA2444]

"According to the New World Encyclopedia, the term's earliest roots encompass two things feminists are often associated with, whether rightly or wrongfully: France and socialism. In fact, its French translation "feminisme" was first used by French socialist Charles Fourier in 1837 to describe the emancipation of women he envisioned for his utopian future."

Oh it was the French who did this to us huh? Doesnt surprise me after that huge joke they played on us with the statue of Liberty! And no one got it! It stands there today.

Lady Liberty looks like a man. Dang French! Grrr.

I can agree that feminism has DEvolved into something...unrecognizable...these days.

Well you should shake that stuff off and quit talking about it like it means something. When I get you talking about other stuff than feminism you sound like a nice girl who deserves respect and love. But when you start talking pro feminism, it...doesn't look good on you, shall we say?

Not ALL men want that. Or, maybe I could say, not ALL men want ONLY that.

Weeeellllll, Choose Wisely. The men who do want that, would treat you nicer than the bad boys. Sorry to hear you friend zoned the good guys.

Why can't I fix a tire and still be considered 'feminine'?

The only 'perfect' world I can think of would be God's world: Heaven.

You could be feminine and change a tire. One feminist I talked to was at some sort of tent meeting and she was on staff and after it was iver she started taking up tent stakes to the tent, and some man walked up and offered to help her and she got mad and yelled at him because she dont need no man and he insulted her by trying to imply that she needed help...whoa. She prolly beat him up, lol.

I've always liked the tomboy types rather than the Princess types (OOOHHH! I broke nail!_ when I could have a girl that would wrestle me in the straw!
And saying I prefer the tomboy types isnt saying that I want a masculine woman. (Some jerk lady tried to tell me I'M Not Masculine !!! She didnt get it at all. Just a capable woman, not a masculine one. Help me with this honey...and she isnt afraid to!

My exwife was like that. She'd wrestle with me in a heartbeat but she was actually very feminine. Just not the oh I broke a nail type, lol.

The Iroquois women didn't usually hunt, as that was seen as the man's job. BUT, she DID have say over WHICH men would hunt!
Plus, the Iroquois were mostly farmers...and guess who tended the farms by plowing the field, sowing the seeds, harvesting the produce and distributing the food?

If she isnt a hunter then it's largely not her business which hunter goes and where. Go make us some sandwiches.. That's largely a so what anyway. You aint no Iroquois indian, you're a white girl. So who cares if a certain tribe of Indians gave their strength to women? That's irrevelant to a feminism discussion.

That used to my favorite joke with my wife, lol! Honey go plow the North 40....lol.

 

[MA2444]

LOL!!! So did I!!!

See? There may be hope for you yet!

Sometimes when I daydreamed, I would dream of a time when ALL schools had a REQUIRED course of Domestic Relations. The discussions would be about what red flags are, how to spot them, what to do when you DO spot them, how to avoid being coerced into sex...and more...all being done in COED classrooms.

Yeah, I know. Hey, a girl can dream, can't she?

Lol! I hear ya'!
But what would be on the curriculam for that class?
How to be a mind reader of women?
How to do their work for them after I get off of work?
How to know that she is not really fine when you ask is everything ok honey? And she says fine, so the man says ok and walks away and then she gets mad at him for not knowing that she really isnt fine?
How to never hold them responsible for anything?

Yep, a woman can dream!

 

[Wrangler]

If they can judge men by how tall they are then we can judge them by body count OR how much they weigh. Equality!

Even then, man’s height is not a function of choice. Not a moral indicator. (An indicator of preferred genes, for sure).

By contrast, body count is totally a function of choice.

 

[Mink57]

What’s interesting is how under-stated this fact is. We are made in God’s image. God is a warrior called the LORD of Heaven’s Armies and he gave us dominion over all the Earth.

Yes, we are created in God's image. Male and Female. Somehow, I don't believe that God looks at the Female part of His "image" and thinks it's inferior to the Male part.

Men did not acquire dominion over all animals by eloquently talking like Dr Doolittle.

Both men AND women were given dominion over all the animals.

Figures. Women cannot compete on that plane. Violence solves problems, despite the indoctrination to the contrary.

Enter the Iroquois. As a Matrilineal society, violence is VERY rare...especially violence against women. What do the Iroquois know that the 'modern men' of Patriarchy don't?

The world is, was and always will be ruled by the effective use of violence. Civilization is based on violence, forever burdened to more effectively use violence than barbarians and beasts. If not, society crumbles.

I'm SURE Jesus wouldn't agree with you.

As I stated near the beginning of this thread, the Patriarchy was not a philosophy to oppress women but a survival strategy - an effective survival strategy. It is only AFTER men built civilization that it became safe for women to leave protective shelters

Seriously?? You really think it's "safe" for women these days?? With all of the domestic violence and sexual harassment that women in general receive on a daily basis...is that your idea of "safe"?

- then ungrateful feminists emerged demanding equality of freedom without equality of responsibility. This is why Pearl says to feminists, since you want to be equal; be equal. This means equally shoulder the burden of supporting the infrastructure of society, starting first and foremost in the effective use of violence, followed by: oil rigging, construction, engineering, manufacturing, carpentry, plumbing and electrician work.

Women ARE in oil rigging, construction, engineering, manufacturing, carpentry, plumbing and electrical work. They're also firefighters, on the front lines in the Military, police, CIA, FBI and other 'dangerous' jobs.

Are YOU in any of those jobs, Wrangler?

 

[Mink57]

See? There may be hope for you yet!

Lol! I hear ya'!
But what would be on the curriculam for that class?
How to be a mind reader of women?
How to do their work for them after I get off of work?
How to know that she is not really fine when you ask is everything ok honey? And she says fine, so the man says ok and walks away and then she gets mad at him for not knowing that she really isnt fine?
How to never hold them responsible for anything?

Or, or, or, Ladies, DON'T sit in his lap during the "game of the Century" and wanna talk about your 'relationship'
Or, or, or, how about, "Men, don't not TALK to her the whole day, come home, give her a quick peck on the cheek, HARDLY talking to her the whole evening, and expect sex that night?

Seriously, relationships ARE supposed to be about honest communication...no matter how 'tough' it is.

Yep, a woman can dream!

Where's the icon with the smiley with the TONGUE sticking out?! Oh wait!!! Found it!!

 

[MA2444]

Eh.

Hey you can be perfectly feminine and also be capable and even change your own tire.
Your like the tomboy type, which isnt masculine and doesnt interfere with femininity. Femininity is mostly attitude and some behavior so can try to do anythng you want to do, within reason.

Most women I knew weren't deliberately seeking tall men. It wasn't even an issue way back when. Not even during our 'girl talks'. I think the tallest man I dated (yes, dated, not slept with) was 6'4". Talk about awkward! And the shortest man I dated (yes, dated, not slept with) was 5'3". I had no issue with his height, but HE did. Only went on 3-4 dates with the first, and 2 with the second.

I married two men who were around 5'7" (I'm 5'5"). My late husband was CONSTANTLY talking about his height, as he was the 'smallest' in his class up until high school.

And NO ONE that I dated or even married made 100K. Did not bother me.

Well our generation wasnt as unrealistic as Gen X is, or the Millenials. We were still taught that if one wants something then we have to work for it.

This younger generation doesnt want to work, wants maximum pay just for their presence and wants a "real Man" A real man is 6'3" and supports hir girl in her OF page and girls night out and extra curricular activities without being "insecure" about it...

And girls are suposedly so real? Why the mask? (Make up). Why the botox Lips and the BBL's? Men dont want that. Men want natural. Yes women put on some weight as they grow older or have kids, so what? It's natural.
I heard a woman who got caught cheating in a video. She was explaining to her husband that, women are buit different than men and she was ovulating and had to reproduce...but he was at work! So why wasnt he there for her?
The husband said, Ok I understand. Men have to reproduce also and I cheated on you and didnt know how to tell you...
And she got hot angry and stood up yelling, men are not built like that this is a woman thing, when we gotta have it we gotta have it, but you cheated on me!!! Blah blah blah.
No double standard there, move along. Lol.



Be a real man she says, lol. I'll for real help her pack her things!
My mom stubbed her toe, I gotta go!

 

[MA2444]

Why should I congratulate you for having moral standards? Aren't you SUPPOSED to have morals?

It might be a feminine trait. Everyone likes compliments, right? Yeah, us men do too!

Should I never say your sandwich was good to you? Or is that just to be expected of you?

Touche'

 

[Mink57]

Even then, man’s height is not a function of choice. Not a moral indicator. (An indicator of preferred genes, for sure).

You're right. But there are things about women that aren't a choice either. Small breasts, for example. Some men like big breasted women. And I was teased relentlessly in school because I did NOT fit that mold. Yes, I understand that women CAN have surgery to combat that 'problem'. But why would she HAVE to?

I think what bugs me the most about this thinking is that a woman can SEE if a man isn't as tall as she would like...yet, she agrees to date him anyway...and then starts to complain about his height...as if he can do anything about it.! My goodness, woman! If you want a man who's 6 feet tall, don't DATE a man who's LESS than that!! And to the man, he can usually SEE if a woman has some large breasts even BEFORE he asks her out. If THAT'S what he wants, by even BOTHER getting with someone who doesn't have your physical 'preferences'?

Is there an emoji for a *face/palm*? Sheesh!

By contrast, body count is totally a function of choice.

I agree...to a point. Unfortunately, there ARE a number of men out there who have "game", and a woman can agree to sleep with him. She may feel like, "This can really GO somewhere!" They sleep together ONCE...and then...she's GHOSTED.

Did you ever sleep with a woman and NOT marry her?

 

[MA2444]

See! There it is! She like compliments too! It's just politeness to each other. And politeness from a female is feminine. Wow.

Or, or, or, Ladies, DON'T sit in his lap during the "game of the Century" and wanna talk about your 'relationship'
Or, or, or, how about, "Men, don't not TALK to her the whole day, come home, give her a quick peck on the cheek, HARDLY talking to her the whole evening, and expect sex that night?

Funny you bring this up, lol.
I can't count how many Super Bowl Sundays that we turned on our VCR tapes of the SImpsons because nothing but the Super Bowl was on tv. So we'd have a Simpsons Marathon instead, lol!

I may be one of the three men on earth who isnt into professional sports. That's great for them guys Rah rah, hope they win, but who cares? Professional sports are an engineered distraction for the American people so they have something to be kukoo over and not think about important stuff! Like the Simpsons for example, Lol! Hey back in the early years it was a funny show. I stopped watching it after awile cuz it got evil and homo and all that modern crap. And lots of times, me and her would drift off to the other room while the kids watched tvand I guarentee you you sat on my lap on Super Bowl Sunday before! So...HA!

One of the three men on earth who dont watch the game, lol!

 

[MA2444]

Seriously, relationships ARE supposed to be about honest communication...no matter how 'tough' it is.

That's all we did in the early years. I stuck by her side. I had to work of course but I went into business 10 years after we met (and Then we started making money!) But I ran it out of the house. She was my secretary. She wanted to be. She liked talking to people on the phone and juggling numbers and all that stuff. She was so sweet on the phone with Customers and related professional trade people related to the business. Twice! Twice She got calls from other companies and they were trying to hire her for their own company to be on the phones. She was that good. So we spent a lot of time together. Ad even if I had to go work, lots of times I was in & out all day. We were so close in those days that it aint funny. We were so close, that...No I better not, lol. Then you would know I'm nuts! Lol!

It's true though. and one day...she stopped talking to me and that wasnt a red flag it was more like a punch in the gut. I knew it was the beginning of the end when she stopped talking. Stopped communicating about anything serious.

But you are right, it's about honest communication. And dont lie to me about what happened. If she messed up and created a problem, she must be honest with me for me to be able to help. WHo cares how bad it was, if I have the truth then I wont waste time with rabbit trails when I could be working out a solution all that time. And one more thing honesty does is....when the chips are down...at least I know I can trust what comes out of her mouth.
She didnt seem to get that. She would make some small inconsequential mistake and lie to me about it (So she didnt want to make me mad!!?) but mistakes happen in life. Every one makes mistakes. It was stupid to say she didnt want to make me mad. I never hit her. The worst thing I ever did to her (I think) was I came home from work at lunchtime and she's sitting there watching soap operas on tv, oh she had a lunch ready for me, but...soap operas? I got so mad I unplugged the tv and threw it outside into the back yard and broke it. !
Those soap operas are the scourge of women in America. Teaches them how to scheme and cheat and maybe even murder people. They are bad.

I had to go back to work after tossing the TV. And when I got home again, we already had a brand new TV!! She just went and bought a nicer one, lol. But I made my point about it and that was the important thing. And I'm 96% sure that she did stop watching those shows after that. I never caught her again at least. That's not very bad, in my mind.

I know I know it's prolly a chargable offense nowadays, lol Prolly a felony. Third degree Abuse, you displayed violence in front of her and scared her! Lol!

 

[Mink57]

Oh it was the French who did this to us huh? Doesnt surprise me after that huge joke they played on us with the statue of Liberty! And no one got it! It stands there today.

LOL!!

Lady Liberty looks like a man. Dang French! Grrr.

Don't know WHY I thought about this but...

youtube: dude looks like a lady - Búsqueda Vídeos

www.bing.com

Well you should shake that stuff off and quit talking about it like it means something. When I get you talking about other stuff than feminism you sound like a nice girl who deserves respect and love. But when you start talking pro feminism, it...doesn't look good on you, shall we say?

Well, thank you! I only talk about SOME parts of Feminism that I agree with (equal wages, for example). Otherwise, this whole all-men-are-evil-womenz-hatting-scum-only-good-for-sex isn't even on my radar.

Weeeellllll, Choose Wisely. The men who do want that, would treat you nicer than the bad boys. Sorry to hear you friend zoned the good guys.

I didn't friend-zone the good guys. My first boyfriend in college was a good guy. We dated for 2 years. Everyone thought we'd marry. We didn't. Broke up on good terms. Still friends today.

You could be feminine and change a tire. One feminist I talked to was at some sort of tent meeting and she was on staff and after it was iver she started taking up tent stakes to the tent, and some man walked up and offered to help her and she got mad and yelled at him because she dont need no man and he insulted her by trying to imply that she needed help...whoa. She prolly beat him up, lol.

OMG! Yeah, I've heard stories like that before. The problem if that in THESE DAYS, if a man offers to help, OFTEN he wants 'something' in return. People...that is, men AND women, don't seem to help JUST TO HELP anymore.

I've always liked the tomboy types rather than the Princess types (OOOHHH! I broke nail!_ when I could have a girl that would wrestle me in the straw!
And saying I prefer the tomboy types isnt saying that I want a masculine woman. (Some jerk lady tried to tell me I'M Not Masculine !!! She didnt get it at all. Just a capable woman, not a masculine one. Help me with this honey...and she isnt afraid to!

O.k. I'm a 'tomboy' type. I'm capable. I'm not 'masculine'. And I ain't afeard to try!

A cute story for ya. I was driving down the 405 in California years ago. I was a VERY new Christian back then. I blew a tire. First time I pulled off the road and prayed: "Jesus, please send help! You KNOW I have to make it to work on time today!" I sat in the car for about a minute. Had no idea what to expect. After the minute, I thought, "Well, while I'm waiting for help, I may as well try to fix the tire myself. " So, I got out of the car (the blown tire was on the STREET side, so cars were whizzing by me about 2 feet from me). I recalled what I had seen other people do. Pry off the hubcap. Put the jack under the car. No wait! Try to loosen the nuts first. In 15 minutes I was back on the road...and started LAUGHING to myself. I didn't get "help" the way I THOUGHT I would get help. Jesus reminded me, "You GOT this, Mink. You KNOW what to do. Just...remember." I made it to work on time...with 2 minutes to spare! Thank you JESUS!!

My exwife was like that. She'd wrestle with me in a heartbeat but she was actually very feminine. Just not the oh I broke a nail type, lol.

I'm only a broken nail type (lately) because it takes my nails SO LONG to grow! So breaking a nail to me is like, "Aaaaarrrrggghh!!!"

If she isnt a hunter then it's largely not her business which hunter goes and where. Go make us some sandwiches..

LOL! That's not quite the way it was. It wasn't so much ONLY women decided who and where. It was a JOINT decision, but her opinion carried a LOT of weight. While the men were in positions of authority, it was the women voted them IN, and the WOMEN who could vote them OUT.

Make your own dang sandwich. I have a broken nail to tend to.

That's largely a so what anyway. You aint no Iroquois indian, you're a white girl. So who cares if a certain tribe of Indians gave their strength to women? That's irrevelant to a feminism discussion.

It's not "irrelevant" to a feminism discussion because the American Suffragettes modeled their ideas of "equality" based on the Matrilineal hierarchy of the Iroquois, and how much respect the Iroquois men had for their women.

is what inspired the American Suffargette's.

Yup!

That used to my favorite joke with my wife, lol! Honey go plow the North 40....lol.

More like, "Honey, YOU go plow the North 40! I got a war counsel meeting in 20 minutes..."

 

[Mink57]

It might be a feminine trait. Everyone likes compliments, right? Yeah, us men do too!

Of COURSE we ALL like compliments! I really don't think that women compliment men enough. BUT...
by the same token, sometimes when we (men AND women) compliment each other, it goes straight to our heads.

SOMETIMES.

Should I never say your sandwich was good to you? Or is that just to be expected of you?

Touche'

Some people DO believe that they shouldn't have to compliment their spouse...because after all, what their spouse is doing is their JOB.

How SAD is that?

 

[Mink57]

See! There it is! She like compliments too! It's just politeness to each other. And politeness from a female is feminine. Wow.

Of COURSE "she" does! But there are compliments and 'compliments'. You've probably heard about "love-bombing" before. Compliment after compliment after compliment...to the point of ad nauseum! And love-bombing is often a pre-cursor to abuse.

Funny you bring this up, lol.
I can't count how many Super Bowl Sundays that we turned on our VCR tapes of the SImpsons because nothing but the Super Bowl was on tv. So we'd have a Simpsons Marathon instead, lol!

LOL!

I may be one of the three men on earth who isnt into professional sports. That's great for them guys Rah rah, hope they win, but who cares? Professional sports are an engineered distraction for the American people so they have something to be kukoo over and not think about important stuff! Like the Simpsons for example, Lol! Hey back in the early years it was a funny show. I stopped watching it after awile cuz it got evil and homo and all that modern crap. And lots of times, me and her would drift off to the other room while the kids watched tvand I guarentee you you sat on my lap on Super Bowl Sunday before! So...HA!

One of the three men on earth who dont watch the game, lol!

My "man of interest" is into sports. My late husband was a HUGE football fan. I...not so much! But honey...watch the game...I'll make some sandwiches for you...

 

[Mink57]

That's all we did in the early years. I stuck by her side. I had to work of course but I went into business 10 years after we met (and Then we started making money!) But I ran it out of the house. She was my secretary. She wanted to be. She liked talking to people on the phone and juggling numbers and all that stuff. She was so sweet on the phone with Customers and related professional trade people related to the business. Twice! Twice She got calls from other companies and they were trying to hire her for their own company to be on the phones. She was that good. So we spent a lot of time together. Ad even if I had to go work, lots of times I was in & out all day. We were so close in those days that it aint funny. We were so close, that...No I better not, lol. Then you would know I'm nuts! Lol!

Sounds like a DECENT relationship. One that worked well, like a well-oiled machine. Siiiigh. If ONLY...
Late husband and I didn't have a business, but worked together for a short time. He wanted to be "The Boss". Stood back and let me do EVERYTHING, while issuing orders. Uhhhhh, no.

But it seems like you respected her "contribution" as important. It wasn't "lesser than" your own.

Maybe the problem with feminism is the whole idea of "equality" when they should be seeking the same recognition for "equivalent"?

It's true though. and one day...she stopped talking to me and that wasnt a red flag it was more like a punch in the gut. I knew it was the beginning of the end when she stopped talking. Stopped communicating about anything serious.

What happened? You seem to 'have it all'. Is it possible that although you fault ME for missing the 'red flags', could YOU have missed a few too?

But you are right, it's about honest communication. And dont lie to me about what happened. If she messed up and created a problem, she must be honest with me for me to be able to help. WHo cares how bad it was, if I have the truth then I wont waste time with rabbit trails when I could be working out a solution all that time. And one more thing honesty does is....when the chips are down...at least I know I can trust what comes out of her mouth.
She didnt seem to get that. She would make some small inconsequential mistake and lie to me about it (So she didnt want to make me mad!!?) but mistakes happen in life. Every one makes mistakes. It was stupid to say she didnt want to make me mad. I never hit her. The worst thing I ever did to her (I think) was I came home from work at lunchtime and she's sitting there watching soap operas on tv, oh she had a lunch ready for me, but...soap operas? I got so mad I unplugged the tv and threw it outside into the back yard and broke it. !'
Those soap operas are the scourge of women in America. Teaches them how to scheme and cheat and maybe even murder people. They are bad.

There's probably so much MORE underlying stuff that happened that she didn't relate to you...which would be WRONG on HER part. At least I TOLD my husbands and other boyfriends what was 'wrong'. It wasn't something like, hey, you never bring me flowers or take me dancing. It was more like, "I need a 'slow hand' when it comes to lovemaking", or "Since I'm working AND going to school, I need you to help by throwing in a load of laundry"...only to be met with disgust.

And it's not like I decided to go back to school without his approval. I TALKED to him about it. Told him that IF I did this, he would have to do...cooking sometimes, laundry sometimes. He APPROVED...and then...CHANGED.

I've never been into Soaps so...

Our neighbors always came over. And one neighbor said, "Mink, you're always CLEANING!" He looked at my husband who was standing there, drinking a 7th beer...

I had to go back to work after tossing the TV. And when I got home again, we already had a brand new TV!! She just went and bought a nicer one, lol. But I made my point about it and that was the important thing. And I'm 96% sure that she did stop watching those shows after that. I never caught her again at least. That's not very bad, in my mind.

I know I know it's prolly a chargable offense nowadays, lol Prolly a felony. Third degree Abuse, you displayed violence in front of her and scared her! Lol!

Eh. I wouldn't go THAT far. I once flipped over the kitchen table, while my late ex husband was standing on the other side of the room. He told people that I "threw" the kitchen table at him...like I could pick up a 6X8 hardwood kitchen table at 125 lbs, and THROW it 15feet...

After we were married, I found out that he LIED about his ex-wife's doings. Told people that he BOUGHT her the car she owned.

He didn't.

At that point...being married of course...I wondered...if he LIED about HER, would he LIE about me too?

Sadly, the answer was 'yes'.

 

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I didn't friend-zone the good guys. My first boyfriend in college was a good guy. We dated for 2 years. Everyone thought we'd marry. We didn't. Broke up on good terms. Still friends today.

Now listen to what you said. He was a good guy and after 2 years you frend zoned him...and he's still in the friend zone today! Lol.

OMG! Yeah, I've heard stories like that before. The problem if that in THESE DAYS, if a man offers to help, OFTEN he wants 'something' in return. People...that is, men AND women, don't seem to help JUST TO HELP anymore.

BS. Maybe the bad boys want something in return, but some men are genuinly trying to help.

I'm only a broken nail type (lately) because it takes my nails SO LONG to grow! So breaking a nail to me is like, "Aaaaarrrrggghh!!!"

Ok. Fair enough.

More like, "Honey, YOU go plow the North 40! I got a war counsel meeting in 20 minutes..."

But how can you make the council meeting now? You're busy nursing a broken nail! Lol.

Yup!

Cute. Except that, that's not what I said. Lol! Nice try!

Make your own dang sandwich. I have a broken nail to tend to.

Ok. Your off the council.