Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

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Titus 2:3-5 . . Instruct the older women to be reverent in the way they
live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is
good. Then they can train the younger women to love their husbands and
children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and
to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

Far from teaching younger women to respect their husbands, feminism
teaches girls to stand up to husbands; and rather than be keepers at home,
feminism has them out seeking means to compete with men and break the
so-called glass ceiling; and rather than love their children, feminism has
them dominating their offspring in a socialist home structured with divisions
of labor, command and control, tyranny, and regimentation. Those practices
certainly can never be categorized as honoring the word of God.


At the heart of women's hostility towards men is the drive to resist male
supremacy. Yet the very lord and master of Christianity, the supreme male in
the universe; demands death to a woman's self interests, and her subordination
to His monarchy.

"If you want to be my follower you must love me more than your own father
and mother, wife and children brothers and sisters-- yes, more than your
own life. And you cannot be my disciple if you do take up your own cross
and follow me." (Luke 14:26)

In The Lord's era, crosses were for executions. So when he instructed his
disciples to "take up their own cross" it meant stifling their own way; viz: it
was a call to abandon self interests, and comply with their Master's wishes.

"Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies
as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God-- this is your spiritual act of
worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be
transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and
approve what God's will is-- His good, pleasing and perfect will." (Rom 12:12)

That mandate runs 180° counter to modern feminism's self-aggrandizing
attitude that homemaking is oppressive and demeaning to women, and that
respect for one's husband is somehow abusive; which is obviously an
attitude that vilifies the word of God instead of honoring it.

Christian marriage and motherhood are not for militant females; no,
marriage and motherhood are for grown-up, mature, emotionally stable
women; and I'm not talking about years of life; no, even some 35 and 40
year-old women often fall short of being grown-up. Their association with
men is on no higher a level now than when they were the 17 year-old, self
absorbed insolent brats they were in high school. Christian women like that
seriously need reform and a good way to begin is by reading, and heeding,
the guidance offered in the three books recommended below.

For Women Only

By Shaunti Feldhahn
ISBN 1-59052-317-2


The Proper Care And Feeding Of Husbands
By Dr. Laura Schlessinger
ISBN 0-06-052061-2


What Our Mothers Didn't Tell Us
By Danielle Crittenden
ISBN 0-684-83219-4
ISBN 0-684-85959-9 (paper back)

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At the heart of women's hostility towards men is the drive to resist male
supremacy.
There is no supremacy of males. We are superior in authority but equal in Christ. It’s a servants responsibility, not a sexist privilege of the Patriarchy as feminists allege.

I realize this is difficult for the female ego to accept and it antithetical to the evil ideology of feminism.

Nothing out of unconditional love and unconditional respect can be aligned with God’s will.

My wife told me the other day she has a restriction in working, which is an admission or confession of weakness. Peter say we are to honor the weaker sex.

Feminism is in denial of reality, denying women are the weaker sex. Some admit this weakness is only physically. It is not limited to physical superiority. Anyone who is not an idiot knows women have much weaker emotional control.

For my part, I don’t want my wife to come close to losing emotional control. Example. We have to have a difficult conversation with her adult son. I asked if she wanted to take the lead in this conversation with me in support. She said, “I don’t know.”

I do know! She’s not up to playing the bad guy, be the agent of justice. It’s not her God-given role. Can’t have equality only in theory but accommodation in practice all the time.
 

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1Pet 3:6 . . . Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord; and you have
become her daughters if you do what is right without being frightened by
any fear.

Sarah's submission to Abraham was voluntary, i.e. she was neither coerced
nor intimidated. Abraham didn't have to break Sarah's spirit by violence,
neglect, or abuse.

That's very interesting because Sarah's original name was Sarai (Gen 17:15)
which in Hebrew means dominative, i.e. domineering. I can't imagine any
parent tagging their little girl with a bossy name like that, but apparently it
was appropriate, viz; baby Sarai must've been a demanding little tyke right
from the get-go.

I don't know how or why it came about, but somewhere along the line in
their relationship; Sarah decided within herself that it was far better for the
home to negotiate with her husband rather than destroying his peace of
mind with ultimatums, walk-outs, foot stomping, looking at him with
daggers, silent treatments, withholding conjugal rights, serving cold food,
grumpiness, assertiveness, stone walling, brow beating, chafing, nagging,
slamming doors, hissy fits, and likely a number of other methods that wives
employ to manipulate their men.

In other words: Sarah decided to exercise diplomacy in her relationship with
Abraham; and the important point to note is that she chose that route
voluntarily, i.e. by simply making up her own mind about it.

I get that from the fact that Sarah called Abraham her lord kind of late in the
marriage. Her first recorded expression of that designation doesn't show up
till Gen 18:12 after they had been together in the land of Canaan something
like 25 years prior to the birth of Isaac. (Gen 12:4-5 & Gen 17:17)
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This is an revealing video between a Christian man and a feminist. The feminist objected to the truth by repeatedly interjecting her feelings, "I just feel you should not say that." What was said? That women are evil.

Her counter is to go general, that everyone is evil. She could not take EQUAL responsibility for the evil that women are. Amazing example of Competitive Feminism; Somehow the weight of her being evil feels mitigated if it applies to everyone AS IF women are not EQUALLY a part of everyone.

Another demonstration of her inability to take responsibility for the evil in women is how she immediately blamed Adam for not protecting her (from the serpent). What kind of strong and independent EQUALITY is this? Competitive Feminism: Want equality of decision-making but blame men for any negative consequences for their choices! Absolutely amazing.

The Christian man brought up another profound point. That men need to overcome the woman because in the beginning, he made her his god in listening to her. By contrast, the woman needs to overcome the serpent because she made him her god. Eve was seduced by the serpent. Adam was seduced by the woman. Woman are man's weaknes. Coveting is woman's weakness. Take a listen.

 

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This is a heart wrenching video of older women confessing how feminist ideology has ruined their lives. Very sad.

@Wynona is doing it right! She has her head screwed on straight. Is married to a good man and planning on starting a family in her 20's. In decades to come, she won't be on online forums boasting about how she don't need to man and can do everything better than any man she's every known. Instead, she will be profoundly happy with a loving and adoring family that she created, nurtured and loved.

The women in these vids believed the lie. Now, it's too late for them. Very sad.

 
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1Cor 11:7-10 . . A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of
God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman
from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason,
and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a token of authority on her head.

According to Ps 8:1-5 and Heb 2:6-7, the angels are a step above human life so for sure
women rank below celestial beings just as they rank below the image and glory of God.

Well anyway; whoever these angels are, or whatever they are, they're apparently
indignant when they see women in church acting as though they're equals with men in
the presence of God.

Christians have simply got to come to grips with the reality that women are not equal to
men in the divine order of things. No, they will always be daddy's little girl. Ergo: women
aren't from Venus after all; no, they're actually the daughters of Mars (so to speak).


POSIT: Paul meant that hair coverings are optional when he said: "But if any man seem
to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God" (1Cor 11:16)


REPLY: Apparently the Jews' synagogues, and all the rest of the Christian churches in
the Roman world, required their women to attend worship services with something on
their heads. Were the Corinthians' women allowed an exemption, they would stand out
as heretics.

"Judge in yourselves: is it proper that a woman pray unto God uncovered?" (1Cor
11:13)

The answer of course is NO; it isn't proper-- it's insolent, inappropriate, irreverent and
offensive to the angels; plus it's conduct unbecoming for women professing Christ's
divine prerogative to tell his followers how to be a Christian.
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Some great biblical things here and in other posts of yours.

I practice head covering because of 1 Corinthians 11 and the creation order. Also, angels.

I agree about Genesis 2:18 and how married wen are to be the helpmate and not a separate party with competing interests with their husbands.

I failed to understand this and had a terrible time being submissive as a result.
 
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This is a heart wrenching video of older women confessing how feminist ideology has ruined their lives. Very sad.

@Wynona is doing it right! She has her head screwed on straight. Is married to a good man and planning on starting a family in her 20's. In decades to come, she won't be on online forums boasting about how she don't need to man and can do everything better than any man she's every known. Instead, she will be profoundly happy with a loving and adoring family that she created, nurtured and loved.

The women in these vids believed the lie. Now, it's too late for them. Very sad.

It's odd that you tagged me and I did not see it. Thank you. I will likely watch this video you've posted.

My husband is a great man. Doing thing's God's way has given me the privilege of watching him grow into what they call a "high value man".

If I had judged him harshly in the beginning for all his flaws, if I had continued resisting God and doing it my way, I'd never get to witness how Godly, confident and successful he is now. My best friend...now he's just incredible. You would like him.

 
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My husband takes his role as leader and head of household very seriously.

We have seen hard times but I have never missed a meal and bills continued to be paid every month.

He will usually say yes to what I ask, unless it goes against what God has asked him or us to do.

He will advocate on my behalf to his mother.

He has never made me feel less desirable than another woman.

He will fix things himself that I just simply don't want to deal with.

He supports other family as he feels led and will support the needs of homeless strangers.

He is a huge geek for his hobbies, but he never puts them above me or our baby girl.

He will change daipers, fix babas, and soothe baby girl's tears and gas pains.

He will work up to 16 hours in a day as a commercial truck driver.

He reminds of the Lord: good, never allowing me to suffer on out of cruelty, always doing what he can to make my life easier.

He could have lived an easier life without me. He could just work a basic job and play video games. He does what he does because he finds purpose in being married and he says he is glad he pursued me to be his wife at 19.

This is the man that my female friends often counseled me to leave, that my parents were against me marrying. They apologized to him and admitted they were wrong.

Is he better than me? I think he is my moral superior. His faith is more consistent, more grounded. I suppose as the weaker vessel, it simply takes more prayer to be that consistent. Besides, he is more forgiving than I am.

I am proud of him. When I got out the way, when I went with God's ways, the man just catapulted ahead. And its what I wanted.
 
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There was a disagreement about whether men are superior to women or not.

It seems like an apples and oranges comparison. Men cannot deliver babies. Women are not as physically strong as a whole. Both are made in God's image. Both are made a new people and are heirs in Christ.

But personally, I crave my husband's superiority in strength, Godliness, and visible success. If he were my equal in everything...its not as attractive nor is it easy to be submissive in that situation.
 
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If he were my equal in everything...its not as attractive
Very honest post. Female nature of hypergamy is contrary to feminist ideals of equality for women do not want to marry their equals but men who are better than them.

Delusional feminists think these men are their equals. And here is where the ungodly, lack of humility and lack of respect and lack of appreciation gets a foothold to ruin the lives of all affected.

My wife is better than me at maintaining relationships with friends and family. I'm going to a grandsons football game in a few hours because of that. :D A couple of weeks ago she needed a new laptop and a couple months before that we needed a new vacuum cleaner. While she focuses on her role, I focus on my role as provider. Both of us are happier fulfilling our purpose.

The feminist clap trap of "can" we do what the other does is the wrong question. (Leading to man-hating Competitive Feminism). We were made for certain roles. We were not meant to breath underwater. As my wife says often, we were not meant to compete but to cooperate.
 
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My husband takes his role as leader and head of household very seriously.
Did you see my thread asking if I should leave my church? They treated fathers' as jokes on Father's Day, even saying the best thing about father's is they can take a joke. When I told a friend, his response was to say that is almost the EXACT OPPOSITE of the truth; One of the best things about men is they know when things are not a joke - and how to step up in the moment of truth.

It's not women who lead when things go bump in the night or a spider or other vermin are in the house. So, it does not surprise me one little bit that you observe this seriousness in your husband. It is not emotionalism of women waxing hysterically, as my wife did as I wiped out a next of squirrels in the attic. It is a weightiness, a gravitas of masculine focus that the feminine cannot match. Feminists want it both ways; Given that women are better at multi-tasking, it follows that men are better at single-minded focus and intensity.

I believe it comes from our anthropological history. In cavemen days when men were on the hunt, what were women doing? Everything else? They were collecting firewood, berries, harvesting from a garden, tending the fire, leading the older kids to help fight off wild animals and having her parents take care of the babies and little ones.

Returning to men on the hunt, sacrificing time with his family during desperate times for what purpose? Feminism would say our ancient father's were dead beats back then also. Not so! They knew the coming winter was at hand. Acquiring so much meat per person meant the difference between life and death. If the men failed, everyone would die. I believe your husband exudes this intensity - and you love him all the more for it.

When it comes to having serious talks with family and friends, my wife leaves it to me. Yes, she talks to them more. But I talk to them about weighty matters, about things that are uncomfortable to discuss, address conflicts and negotiate both resolution and consequences with finality.

There is an intensity in the moment of truth that overwhelms her, the weaker sex. She supports me taking the lead in such moments but knows it is not natural for her to hold her loved ones accountable in no uncertain terms. It is very serious. The moral character of the next generation, their capacity to survive in the long run depends on it. If I fail as a man, everyone will die. A shout out to our caveman days.
 
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Did you see my thread asking if I should leave my church? They treated fathers' as jokes on Father's Day, even saying the best thing about father's is they can take a joke. When I told a friend, his response was to say that is almost the EXACT OPPOSITE of the truth; One of the best things about men is they know when things are not a joke - and how to step up in the moment of truth.

It's not women who lead when things go bump in the night or a spider or other vermin are in the house. So, it does not surprise me one little bit that you observe this seriousness in your husband. It is not emotionalism of women waxing hysterically, as my wife did as I wiped out a next of squirrels in the attic. It is a weightiness, a gravitas of masculine focus that the feminine cannot match. Feminists want it both ways; Given that women are better at multi-tasking, it follows that men are better at single-minded focus and intensity.

I believe it comes from our anthropological history. In cavemen days when men were on the hunt, what were women doing? Everything else? They were collecting firewood, berries, harvesting from a garden, tending the fire, leading the older kids to help fight off wild animals and having her parents take care of the babies and little ones.

Returning to men on the hunt, sacrificing time with his family during desperate times for what purpose? Feminism would say our ancient father's were dead beats back then also. Not so! They knew the coming winter was at hand. Acquiring so much meat per person meant the difference between life and death. If the men failed, everyone would die. I believe your husband exudes this intensity - and you love him all the more for it.

When it comes to having serious talks with family and friends, my wife leaves it to me. Yes, she talks to them more. But I talk to them about weighty matters, about things that are uncomfortable to discuss, address conflicts and negotiate both resolution and consequences with finality.

There is an intensity in the moment of truth that overwhelms her, the weaker sex. She supports me taking the lead in such moments but knows it is not natural for her to hold her loved ones accountable in no uncertain terms. It is very serious. The moral character of the next generation, their capacity to survive in the long run depends on it. If I fail as a man, everyone will die. A shout out to our caveman days.

I cannot seem to tag him but Weber's home used a word I really liked to describe men in another thread: seniority.

Superiority has a different meaning depending on the context. But I like seniority because its biblically accurate. Scripture talks about Adam being created first and that creation order does matter. It gives men seniority, that Eve was meant to respect. There is no indication that Adam knew he was eating the wrong fruit in the garden of Eden when Eve handed it to him. But his seniority made him responsible too.
 

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How about this? I think may have discovered the cure for Feminism.

We have to saturate our minds with the Word of God. When you do that and His Word is inside of you, it goes into our subconscious and dismantles the lies of (Feminism) or other lies about (everything).

And many women seem to be on the fence with feminism. They like some things about it, but dont want to appear as hardcore femiists. For these feminists there is hope in the saturation of your mind with the Word of God. I would suggest for fence sitting feminists to start with the Psalms, the Promises of God. Fast from feminism. Dont listen to, watch or even think about what feminism teaches...go to the word of God and saturate your mnd with it and the lies will become clear.

Then do it again tomorrow. Then the next day. Then the next. Then when someone says, feminism can...you will go, WHat? I've never heard more malarky in my life! Because I Know...

Yes? No?
 
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We have to saturate our minds with the Word of God. When you do that and His Word is inside of you, it goes into our subconscious and dismantles the lies of (Feminism) or other lies about (everything).
And here we have the perfect answer!!!

We can all go home after that one! Praise the Lord!


I am not smarter or more clever than all the leaders of the feminist movement.

But when I hide the Word of God in my heart, watch out! Victory over lies is assured.
 

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And here we have the perfect answer!!!

We can all go home after that one! Praise the Lord!

I get lucky sometimes, lol.
I am not smarter or more clever than all the leaders of the feminist movement.

But when I hide the Word of God in my heart, watch out! Victory over lies is assured.

Exactly.
WHen I hide the Word of God i my heart, the Holy Spirit shows up more and more and starts talking to me. And He's impossible not to hear! Geez sometimes I cant not hear Him (my carnal self, lol) But he's there and I know it.

Psalm 139:8-11
8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;

10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.

11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.../KJV

There's those Psalms again! I tell you, Psalms I use for so many things. It's like my go-to book to lift my spirits up! We let scripture interpret scripture but did you know that scripture can also interpret feminism...Lol!
Holy Spirit is there and He Promised to lead us into all truth. Not some of it, all truth.
 
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I read it to him just now.

I suppose I say I appreciate him. But not always that specific. So that was good for you to suggest that.
There is the generic, emotionless “Thanks” and then there is the look in the eye, chock full of emotion expression of appreciation.

There is an emotional context to words and everyone knows the difference between a gratuitous and heart felt gratitude. I’m sure your husband appreciated the recognition.
 
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