Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

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Eph 5:22 . .Wives, submit to your husbands as to The Lord.

In other words; it's not the husband himself who merits his wife's best
behavior, rather, it's his position in the home.
You're starting at the wrong place. Submissiveness begins with Ephesians 5:21: "Submit to ONE ANOTHER out of reverence to Christ".
Wives submit to their husbands BUT husbands also submit to their wives. Wives submit to their husbands in one way, while husbands submit to their wives in another. Not "equally", but mutually.

For example:

"To the woman he said: Your husband . . he will rule over you." (Gen 3:16)

Adam was ranked superior to Eve not because of his gender, rather, because
he was the senior of the two, i.e. Adam was born first; thus all men,
including Christ, are entitled to seniority relative to women simply by virtue
of the fact that they are Adam's paternal descendants.
The whole "he will rule over you" wasn't a command; it was a prediction. God never told Adam to "rule" over Eve. He told Eve what was going to happen from that point.

First of all, Adam wasn't "born"; he was created. Big difference. You think that because God created Adam first between him and Ever that the order of creation is about superiority? In that case, ROCKS were created before Adam. So was the sun...other planets...water...vegetation...animals...because they were ALL created BEFORE Adam. So, rocks are SUPERIOR to Adam. So are animals, because THEY were created FIRST...before Adam.
So then:

"Demonstrate your fear of God by standing up in the presence of elderly
people and showing respect for the aged. I am The Lord." (Lev 19:32)

Rising to one's feet for the elders among us carries over to revering God
because He too is an elder among us. God likely doesn't look His age--
except maybe in a figure of speech, e.g. Dan 7:9 --but we really should keep
in mind that He's among us as not only a better, but also a senior. So we
would do well to step aside for God, carry His bags, and/or hold a door open
for Him not only because he's a deity and a monarch, but mainly because He's
older.
This really doesn't have much to do with the topic at hand.
The Greek word for "submit" is the very same for submit in Eph 5:21 which
shouldn't be taken to mean wives are supposed to take orders from their
husbands as if marriage were an arrangement similar to a monarch and a
commoner. What we're talking about here is deference rather than obedience.

Deference is agreeable, approachable, tactful, and diplomatic. Deference
isn't confrontational, demanding, assertive, militant, dominating, nor always
clamoring: I am woman! Hear me roar!

In a nutshell: deference is just the opposite of defiance. Christian wives
striving for equality with their men have not yet learned what it means to
associate with a husband as they would The Lord.

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I can say the same thing about Christian husbands.
 

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One manifestation of the evil ideology of feminism is appealing to a women's susceptibility to covet, which is the Original Sin. This pathway uses the alluring phrases, "Don't Settle" and "You can have it all." Now as you read this joke, keep in mind the reason that jokes are funny is because there is an element to truth to it.


The Husband Store

A store that sells new husbands has opened in New York City, where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates:

You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the value of the products increase as the shopper ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any item from a particular floor, or may choose to go up to the next floor, but cannot go back down except to exit the building!

So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband. On the first floor the sign on the door reads:

Floor 1 - These men Have Jobs.

She is intrigued, but continues to the second floor, where the sign reads:

Floor 2 - These men Have Jobs and Love Kids.

"That's nice," she thinks, "but I want more."

So she continues upward. The third floor sign reads:

Floor 3 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, and are Extremely Good Looking.

"Wow," she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going.

She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads:

Floor 4 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Good Looking and Help With Housework.

"Oh, mercy me!" she exclaims, "I can hardly stand it!"

Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads:

Floor 5 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop- dead Gorgeous, Help with Housework, and Have a Strong Romantic Streak.

She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads:

Floor 6 - You are visitor 31,456,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that
women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store.

PLEASE NOTE:

To avoid gender bias charges, the store's owner opened a New Wives store just across the street.

The first floor has wives that love sex.

The second floor has wives that love sex and have money and like beer.

The third, fourth, fifth and sixth floors have never been visited.
My "floors" are not so superficial.
Honesty FIRST. Empathy...humility...compassion...kindness...generosity...forgiveness...sense of humor...

All the rest is 'gravy'.
 

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Adam was ranked superior to Eve not because of his gender, rather, because he was the senior of
the two, i.e. Adam was born first

The position of the firstborn is very notable throughout the Bible, beginning
with Adam and finding its ultimate supremacy with Christ.


FAQ: How is Christ in the position of the supreme firstborn when so many
of his ancestors came before him? Shouldn't he be the junior and they the
senior?


REPLY: Jesus would normally be pretty low on the primogeniture totem pole
were it not that the position of the firstborn among men isn't set in concrete,
rather, it's possible to circumvent an elder and give his seniority to a younger,
for example:

Ishmael to Isaac (Gen 20:11-12) Esau to Jacob (Gen 25:23) Reuben to
Joseph (Gen 49:3-4, 1Chr 5:1) Manasseh to Ephraim (Gen 48:13-14) and
David to Jesus. (Ps 110:1, Matt 22:42-45)
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One manifestation of the evil ideology of feminism is appealing to a women's susceptibility to covet, which is the Original Sin. This pathway uses the alluring phrases, "Don't Settle" and "You can have it all." Now as you read this joke, keep in mind the reason that jokes are funny is because there is an element to truth to it.


The Husband Store

A store that sells new husbands has opened in New York City, where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates:

You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the value of the products increase as the shopper ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any item from a particular floor, or may choose to go up to the next floor, but cannot go back down except to exit the building!

So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband. On the first floor the sign on the door reads:

Floor 1 - These men Have Jobs.

She is intrigued, but continues to the second floor, where the sign reads:

Floor 2 - These men Have Jobs and Love Kids.

"That's nice," she thinks, "but I want more."

So she continues upward. The third floor sign reads:

Floor 3 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, and are Extremely Good Looking.

"Wow," she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going.

She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads:

Floor 4 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Good Looking and Help With Housework.

"Oh, mercy me!" she exclaims, "I can hardly stand it!"

Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads:

Floor 5 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop- dead Gorgeous, Help with Housework, and Have a Strong Romantic Streak.

She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads:

Floor 6 - You are visitor 31,456,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that
women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store.

PLEASE NOTE:

To avoid gender bias charges, the store's owner opened a New Wives store just across the street.

The first floor has wives that love sex.

The second floor has wives that love sex and have money and like beer.

The third, fourth, fifth and sixth floors have never been visited.

I've heard this before and thought about posting it also....but I couldt find it. I couldnt remember enough of how it went for google to hit on it!

The Husband Store! Fantastic!
 

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I can say the same thing about Christian husbands.
No. You cannot because Christ is our Lord not our equal. Wives are supposed to submit to their husbands as to the authority of our Lord.

Submit out of Love = applies to husbands and wives.

Submit to Authority = applies only to wives.
 
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You're starting at the wrong place. Submissiveness begins with Ephesians 5:21: "Submit to ONE ANOTHER out of reverence to Christ".
Wives submit to their husbands BUT husbands also submit to their wives. Wives submit to their husbands in one way, while husbands submit to their wives in another. Not "equally", but mutually.

You cant do that. It's all relevant and applies to everyone! There's no exceptions listed, are there?

It is sort of a hard pill to swallow and I understand why women get the urges to say, I dont have to submit to you! But!!!

Don't forget that our time on Earth is an exercise in Delayed Gratification also! And Besides...We all get to play the submissive (Female) role in the afterlife. Even us Men!!

So you should be patient with the Lord and say, ok Lord, not my will, but thine...

(And dont take your angst out on the Men!)
 

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First of all, Adam wasn't "born"; he was created. Big difference. You think that because God created Adam first between him and Ever that the order of creation is about superiority? In that case, ROCKS were created before Adam. So was the sun...other planets...water...vegetation...animals...because they were ALL created BEFORE Adam. So, rocks are SUPERIOR to Adam. So are animals, because THEY were created FIRST...before Adam.

That's...weird thinking. Think about it this way. God created Man out of dirt. Eve wasnt made out of Dirt! She was made out of one of God's best creations! (Pretty sure). I'm not going by how I feel, but how it's described in Scripture!

Feminism is poison for womens minds. Shake that stuff off! Cast down those thoughts and take them captive in the name of Jesus.

We are not Human Beings on a Spiritual Journey. We are Spiritual Beings, on a Human Journey. Our life on Earth here is all about learning how to lift our spirits above the material world and spiritually connect with our Lord and Creator. We have limited time here, and when we die...with what Judgment we meted out to others is the judgment that will be judged upon us.

It's not about who's the Boss on earth. Jesus is! It's about who is the Boss in Heaven! Jesus is. It's all about Him and not you or your Husband. Scripture tells us, the Lord said, He wants us to humble ourselves before Him inpreperation for our new Job that we will have in Heaven, in the New Jerusalem.

If we cant even stop bickering between Men & Women, then our position in Heaven...might not be as good as it could have been. The Lord and I was talking before, and He told me to do something that...I did Not want to do! I actually said No to the Lord! (What was I thinking?!)

He told me to move to Ohio, and that just wasnt in my plans...! But the Lord knew that I would be stubborn. He knows me well, lol. So He started making onah swallowed by the whale videos come up on my Youtube feed, and I watched them....Here I am in Ohio! Praise the Lord (Because I obeyed, the Lord set me up good after I did obey. He gave me a 4BR House that is totally paid off! No Mortage payment! Praise the Lord!
Jonah scared me. I'm no idiot. I could see the Lord was warning me with the Videos!

Well what has that got to do with the topic? Plenty. The Lord has told you to be submissive to your Husband. You dont like that and want to try to talk Men and somehow it's Mens fault for somehow handing you the short end of the stick. It's not Mens fault.
It is the Lord. It Is The LORD. That's between you and Him if you obey or not. Can you reach down inside yourself and grab that little piece of Mary that you have and cultivate Mary in yourself.

When we die, our Earthly record is closed for good. (Tryna' help)
 

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Wives submit to their husbands in one way, while husbands submit to their wives in another.
Wrong. Wives submit to their husbands in two ways. Husbands submit to their wives in one way.

Husbands submit to their wives out of love.

Wives submit to their husbands out of love AND authority as to the Lord.
 
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No. You cannot because Christ is our Lord not our equal. Wives are supposed to submit to their husbands as to the authority of our Lord.

Submit out of Love = applies to husbands and wives.

Submit to Authority = applies only to wives.
Nope. Ephesians goes on to describe how children must submit to their parent's authority, and slaves must submit to their master's authority.

But here's the thing: Parents and Masters ALSO have to 'submit'.

And husbands have to submit, too.
 

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You cant do that. It's all relevant and applies to everyone! There's no exceptions listed, are there?
I can't do WHAT? I said that we are to submit to one another. Wives submit to husbands in one way. Husbands submit to wives in another way. Children submit to their parents in one way, parents submit to their children in another way.
It is sort of a hard pill to swallow and I understand why women get the urges to say, I dont have to submit to you! But!!!
It depends on WHAT kind of 'submission' we're talking about. If my husband grabs my hand in the morning and says, "Let's have our morning coffee outside", you BET he's going to lead, and I'm GOING to follow! But if we're outside having coffee and he says, "Let's rob a bank today. I'll steal the money and you drive the get-away car." Uhhhhhhhh.......I know it's an extreme example, but you catch my drift.

Sorry to say, but there are a lot of men out there who just don't have common sense, and who are not very Christian.
Don't forget that our time on Earth is an exercise in Delayed Gratification also! And Besides...We all get to play the submissive (Female) role in the afterlife. Even us Men!!
Umm...o.k. I'll 'give' you that one. :Agreed:
So you should be patient with the Lord and say, ok Lord, not my will, but thine...

(And dont take your angst out on the Men!)
Been there, done that a number of times.

Let's remember something please. I'm not taking anything out on men. I haven't been with a man in over a decade. I was perfectly ready to spend the rest of my years without a man, and I was happy to do so.

Apparently, God had other plans for me...more to follow at a later point!
 

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1Cor 11:3 . . But I would have you know, that the head of every man is
Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is
God.

It never seems to fail that somebody will actually attempt to refute Paul's
statement by quoting Paul. To wit:

"You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were
baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew
nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ
Jesus." (Gal 3:26-28)

(chuckle) Paul pitted against Paul; the clash of the titans, only in this event,
both titans are one and the same titan. Yes, both genders are one in Christ;
but then Jesus and God are one also, yet there is a hierarchy in the Divinity
because "the head of Christ is God"


NOTE: Beware becoming militant about this because it's neither a gender
issue, an intelligence issue, a competency issue, a strength issue, or a
maturity issue. This particular arrangement is based solely upon seniority.
(Gen 2:21-22, Gen 3:16, & 1Tim 2:13)
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1Cor 11:4-5a . . Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered
disrespects his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her
head uncovered disrespects her head.

The man's head is Christ (1Cor 11:13a) and the woman's head is Adam
(1Cor 11:13b)

Christian women aren't required to cover their hair all the time; only during
prayer and/or prophesy; especially in the presence of men. The idea here is
for the woman to avoid drawing attention to herself and thus diminish the
man's glory which, in effect, diminishes God's glory. (1Cor 11:7)

NOTE: Women's head coverings aren't merely a token of submission to a
higher power. Coverings-- e.g. scarves and hijabs --serve the purpose of
dimming their glamour just a bit. I mean; dolled-up women easily outshine
men, and that's permitted in secular situations, but in liturgical situations it's
important for Christian women to acknowledge she was intended for a
supporting role in the divine scheme of things rather than a co-star's role.
(Gen 2:18)

* To progressive women; Christianity is arguably a subjugation of women,
whereas to Christian women; the matter is settled in Heaven, viz: it is what
it is.
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1Cor 11:6a . . If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off;

It's tempting to construe these rules as demeaning to women; but we're getting at
something fundamental here that goes all the way back to the first few chapters of
Genesis.

Women, by nature, are far more alluring than men. And that's okay @ home and/or out
in the world where they're allowed to pour on the glam and look amazing. But in church,
they ought to dull their shine a bit due to Adam's seniority and the rule of God in the
grand scheme of things.

1Cor 11:6b . . If it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she
should cover her head.

If Christian women would be somewhat embarrassed to show up in church with a man's
hair, then they have only one other option; and that's to show up in church with a
women's. But in order to retain their beauty in the presence of God; they are simply
going to have to tone it down a bit by obscuring their hair with something or Heaven will
have no choice but to assume the worst about them.

According to Gen 2:18, women were intended to function in a supporting role rather
than a co-starring role. Inequality of any kind is no doubt unacceptable to militant
feminists, but if we attempt to appease their discontent we'll only end up disappointing
our superior in Heaven.
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1Cor 11:7-10 . . For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch
as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was
the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause
ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

Now we're getting into the sphere of self control. In other words; it's natural
for the women to want to look her best, but in liturgical situations she needs to
to suppress her vanity a bit so as not to compete with the man for God's attention.

According to Ps 8:1-5 and Heb 2:6-7, the angels are a step above human life
so for sure women rank below celestial beings just as they rank below the
image and glory of God.

Well anyway; whoever these angels are, or whatever they are, they're
apparently indignant when they see women in church acting as though
they're equals with men in the presence of God.

* Christians have simply got to come to grips with the reality that women
are not equal to men in the divine order of things. No, they will always be
daddy's little girl. Ergo: women aren't from Venus after all; no, they're
actually the daughters of Mars (so to speak).

FAQ: Didn't Paul make that hair coverings optional when he said: "But if any
man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches
of God" (1Cor 11:16)

REPLY: Apparently the Jews' synagogues, and all the rest of the Christian
churches in the Roman world, required their women to attend worship
services with something over their hair. Were the Christian women at
Corinth allowed an exemption, they would stand out as heretics.

"Judge in yourselves: is it proper that a woman pray unto God uncovered?"
(1Cor 11:13)

The answer of course is NO; it isn't proper-- it's insolent, inappropriate,
irreverent and it's offensive to the angels; plus it's conduct unbecoming for
women professing Christ's divine prerogative to tell his own followers how
to be a Christian.
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Nope. Ephesians goes on to describe how children must submit to their parent's authority, and slaves must submit to their master's authority.
Nope? Yes! You are being willfully ignorant of the unequal burden women have to obey their husbands, to submit to the God-given authority of husbands over wives. Children have an unequal burden to submit to their parent's authority. Slaves (employees) have have an unequal burden to submit to their master's (supervisors). This you readily admit.

God is a god of order not chaos.

the head of every man is the Messiah, and the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of the Messiah is God.
1 Corinthians 11:3


When there is disagreement, who makes the final decision according to the evil feminist ideology? No one = chaos. (Husbands have an unequal burden to love their wives. Wives also have an an unequal burden to respect and obey their husbands unconditionally). I recently pointed this out to my wife.

Our feminized society is familiar with unconditional love but not unconditional respect, that is a command from God. The evil ideology of feminisim advances the idea that men have to earn their wives respect - and they deem them never as being worthy AS IF it is a woman's place to judge her husband! This is another manifestation of the coveting of Original Sin, a god complex.

So again I say, each man must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
Ephesians 5:33

Wives, subject yourselves to your husbands, as is appropriate in the Lord.
Husbands, love your wives and don’t treat them harshly.
Colossians 3:18-19

In the same way, wives, submit to your husbands ... Your beauty should ... be the inner character of your heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle and quiet spirit. In God’s sight this is of great value. 5 This is how the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves and submit to their husbands, 6 the way Sarah obeyed Abraham, honoring him as her lord.
1 Peter 3
 

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I can't do WHAT? I said that we are to submit to one another. Wives submit to husbands in one way. Husbands submit to wives in another way. Children submit to their parents in one way, parents submit to their children in another way.

You took a step into cherry picking scriptures by saying dot start there go over here, and the reality of it is either you accept it all or none of it, and you cant do that.

It depends on WHAT kind of 'submission' we're talking about. If my husband grabs my hand in the morning and says, "Let's have our morning coffee outside", you BET he's going to lead, and I'm GOING to follow! But if we're outside having coffee and he says, "Let's rob a bank today. I'll steal the money and you drive the get-away car." Uhhhhhhhh.......I know it's an extreme example, but you catch my drift.

Dangit. And we needed a getaway driver too! Lol. I get your point and it's a good point in todays world. If the husband is evil and says for you to go against God's will, then you are right not to do that. But even then we would have to be careful not to overstep our bounds into less extreme areas and remain humble.

I know a ady who is married and her husband has cheated on her in years past, slapped her around and who knows what all else, but she wont divorce the man for those things even though the world has given her permission to divorce the bum 1000 times. She says she dont stay with him for him. Says she stay with him for the Lord and out of her respect for the Lord.
After all she says, wasnt Jesus slapped around and suffered? There is no promises that we will not suffer in this life.
I found that oddly respectable from her.

Been there, done that a number of times.

Let's remember something please. I'm not taking anything out on men. I haven't been with a man in over a decade. I was perfectly ready to spend the rest of my years without a man, and I was happy to do so.

Apparently, God had other plans for me...more to follow at a later point!

Perhaps even more to follow today? No time like the present Sister. Remember I was telling you about how the Lord told me to do something and I did not want to do it, but I did it anyway and was blessed for it? Ok so, that said, when the Lord at a later point comes to you and tells you to do something...but it sounds detestable to you and you dont want to do it, will you go ahead and do it anyway, for the Lord?

When the Lord told me to move to give away my business and move to Ohio, I didnt have that in my plans! In fact, I had plans to never move back to Ohio! But Jonah said no once and paid for it so I did it anyway. For the Lord and not for myself. Because I obeyed, He was able to bless me with what He had planned for me...If I obeyed. And I got lucky and obeyed!

Well I believe that you do not have to wait on the Lord to hear what He has in store for you. Jesus said...it is finished. His part is complete, so He waits on US now. You need to understand that the Lord has already answered that prayer for you and He will tell you what you must do.

It's all written down for you in His Word, Sister. That is what the Lord has told you to do. The Lord has assigned women to a supporting role in their marriages, get used to the idea for His word does not lie. And of course you WILL suffer for it.
Do you think I didnt suffer at first when I came to Ohio? I didnt get this house until after I was homeless on the streets of Columbus for two whole months! What did I do? Oh, I clung to the Lord who could not in that situation?! I've never been homeless in my life! SO I spent my homeless time praying and clinging to the Lord, watching teaching videos on my phone and stuff like that. And after a season of two months, all of a sudden everything clicked into place for me. I felt the time was right so went looking for a job. I got a job real fast. My first payday, I went looking for a place to stay and found a place at the very first place that I went to inquire about! Just, click. And within two more months, I had a house.

Everyones walk is different. You will have different circumstances and struggles. But the husband is oppressive, I reject that and dont have to put up with that sort of suffering!
But Jesus did. What makes you better than that?
What if you find out later that the Lord wanted you with an oppressive man because through your dedication to the Lord the husband would see your example of submissivness and ituit it spiritually to his own relationship with the Lord...and his Wife...? So he returns to the Lord and you have helped the Lord do a great work and save a soul by having endurance enough to suffer some for Him without concern for yourself?

It could happen. You arent submissive to your husband because He is the "boss" or is such a great guy! (Lol), you did it for the Lord...
Does that make sense to you?
 

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You forgot one, Sister!

Well what has that got to do with the topic? Plenty. The Lord has told you to be submissive to your Husband. You dont like that and want to try to talk Men and somehow it's Mens fault for somehow handing you the short end of the stick. It's not Mens fault.
It is the Lord. It Is The LORD. That's between you and Him if you obey or not. Can you reach down inside yourself and grab that little piece of Mary that you have and cultivate Mary in yourself.

WHo thinks that Mary understood what was going to happen to her when the Angel told her she will bear a child? She didnt have a clue! What she did know is about the people in her town. If she had a child before she was married she would be looked down upon and ostracized. Maybe even the other women in town wanted to probe her to prove that she had been with a man and was not virgin like she said she was. I'd bet money that Mary had those thoughts going through her head. So what did she do? She humbled herself and said, be it unto me as you say and put her life in the Lords hands.

There's a lesson in that for all women. Maybe you didnt respond to that part because you're chewing on that part? That's ok. But everything is for the Lord. It isnt about the men. It isnt about the woman. It's about Jesus, and if we will choose to obey.

Or so it seems to me.
 

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I like to think that I understand women. But I dont understand women!

Women understand women, and they hate each other!
 

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Here's a new word for your vocabulary: Womxn. You know what that is? It's
the latest desperate attempt by progressive women to avoid identifying
themselves with men in every way possible. I suppose they'll next revise the
spelling of their gender to look like this: femxle.

Col 3:18 . .Wives, submit to your husband, as is fitting in The Lord.

In a nutshell; the submission we're talking about here is related to a
Christian husband's position in the home rather than his gender.

For example: back when young Queen Elizabeth II became monarch, her
husband Philip felt humiliated to have to kneel to his own wife till she
explained to him that he wouldn't be kneeling to her, rather, to the crown.

In other words: it's the position that deserves the respect rather than the
person in it. So, Christian wives ought to give their husbands the respect
due to his position in the home rather than the blokes they are.

That's a pretty tall order for Christian wives in a modern culture that
constantly pressures them to be strong and masculine rather than soft and
feminine; to be equals rather than subordinates; and to be defiant rather
than diplomatic. (cf. Phil 2:3-4)

The Bible teaches that men were made in the image and glory of God. (1Cor
11:7a) Does that make men equal to God? No. The Bible also teaches that
women were made in the image and glory of men. (1Cor 11:7b) Does that
make women equal to men? No. In neither example does "image and/or
glory" indicate equality when it's only meant to indicate origin, viz: the
man's life was derived from God, whereas the woman's life was derived from
the man.

What was at the very root of the woman's fall from innocence? It was
basically her desire for equality with God (Gen 3:4-6) So the proliferation of
Eve's daughters fighting for equality should not surprise us. It's simply each
succeeding generation of fallen women handing off Eve's torch to the next.

* Incidentally, Eve went off-reservation before she became infected with the
so-called fallen nature. So her sin was the act of an innocent woman rather
than the act of a fallen woman. Well; today's women have never at all
experienced innocence, no, they're all born in a fallen condition; which only
serves to reinforce their resistance to the divine scheme of things.
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Eph 5:33b . . The wife must respect her husband.

The Greek verb for respect essentially refers to "fright" and is used just that
way in numerous places throughout the New Testament.

Some translate it "reverence" defined by Webster's as honor or respect; felt
or shown; which means that wives don't especially have to like their
husbands in order to respect them, nor even have to admire them. An
attitude of respect will do in lieu of felt respect. In other words: the Christian
wife would do well to stifle the disgust she feels for husband and make an
effort to be civil. (Matt 5:43-48, Luke 6:31-33)

I overheard a female caller on radio imperiously announcing to Dr. Laura
that she couldn't respect her husband. So Dr. Laura asked her why. The
caller responded: Because he doesn't deserve it. So Laura asked the caller:
Have you earned your husband's love? The caller retorted: I don't have to
deserve his love. It's a husband's duty to love his wife just as she is.

So Laura pointed out that the caller was practicing a double standard. She
demanded that her husband love her unconditionally, while refusing to
respect him unconditionally. And on top of that; had the chutzpah to dictate
the rules of engagement regardless of how her husband might feel about it;
thus making herself not only impossible to like, but also quite difficult to live
with.
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