Solution 1335 Days to Blessing
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You are correct... the 1335 days is indeed directly connected to Tabernacles. The 1290 days refer to His first coming while the 1335 speaks to His return. Both honor the Jewish feast days.
I absolutely agree with you that most prophecies, if not all, have a timeless component. This does not exclude the display or displays of the same prophecy on specific dates. For 1335 days, there can be a timeless interpretation as the need to wait for God, despite the fact that you have done everything necessary that was required of you. The example with Saul - 1 Samuel 13:8-13.
Some elements are verified enough to be considered true. Others are questionable. I don't really understand what would happen if they were re-watched? I've been "assembling" all of this for about 30 years. I had to re-watch everything many times. Until new input data comes in, there is nothing to reassemble.
I am surprised to hear you mention that ANY book in the Bible is fictional. If so, then who determines this? How then can we trust and rely on any book in the Bible? Please accept that every book in the Bible is God inspired and there are no fictional elements, no errors, no mistakes, no unnecessary language, and there is everything we need in these books we need to have a relationship with our God and understand Him.
The 1290 days cannot refer to the First Coming of Christ because no one can now give a precise, historically or biblically verified date for the beginning and an equally precise, verified date for the end of the 1290 days. Until someone can provide proof, the prophecy is considered unfulfilled.
Furthermore, Jesus himself spoke of this prophecy in the future tense, referring to His Second Coming:
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) (Matthew 24:15)
ScottA
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That is not how I meant "reassemble."
Has your assembling brought you back across the great gulf to the garden? Has it brought you back to the seven days of creation, or the first light of day? What I mean is, all truth in God revealed line upon line, was complete from the beginning. Thus, assembling a doctrine of timeline accuracy does not return one to all truth and to God. In fact, at best it is a plateau to rest upon along the way, and at worst simply falls short.
But don't get me wrong, this was the method of God to reveal all, and therefore there is no violation or error in taking the approach you have. But it is time to look beyond pillar to pillar approaching the throne of God--which was line upon line, and look rather past all the pillars. When the pillars are all behind us, it is not good to remain among them.
Where did I say ANY?
God has the right to write fiction. All Scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit. But not everything should be taken literally.
The writer uses the image of the real King Artaxerxes for his own purposes, so he changes real history at his own discretion, as do the authors of historical novels. The difference between human authors and God's is very great: all Scriptures inspired by the Spirit of God have prophetic meaning and point us to Jesus Christ.
I certainly agree with you, but does that mean you do have an open mind to a new interpretation? Jesus indeed spoke of this in both Matthew and Mark and He was not speaking of the future but the time of the cross - His own death. The book of Daniel is all about the restoration of His people from Babylon back to Jerusalem, the complete restoration of the Temple, the city, their way of life, their ceremonies, etc. However, the most important piece of this "PROHECISED PLAN OF RESTORATION" is found in the last 7 years - the last week of the 70 weeks of years prophecy. God had assigned His people to restore everything - the Temple, the city, all the physical elements back in Jerusalem. This was their assignmet and task and they fully completed this task BY THE END OF THE 69TH WEEK. That meant there was ONLY one element of the restoration process that was yet to be restored - and the Jews had NO ability to fulfill this piece / the last piece of the restoration. God would assign this final element to the Messiah. AFTER the end ofthe 69th week, the Messiah would be baptized in the Jordan to begin His ministry. He would represent the restoration of the last piece of furniture in the Sanctuary - the Ark of the Covenant or the presence of God in the Sanctuary. Only Jesus could restore this, and He did.
Again, if you look and search for the Messiah in Daniel, you will fnnd Him - it is about Him. So, Jesus is indeed speaking of His own demise on the cross. Because HE IS THE DEFINITION OF THE ABOMINATION THAT CAUSES DESOLATION!
I would ask you to try and calculate this yourself at this time. Here are the keys:
1) The beginning of His ministry begins the final week of the prophecy.... this also begins the "set up of the abomination" in 12:11. This is your starting point.
2) The next part of this equation that is needed is also found in 12:11 - when the "daily sacrifice is taken away." What does that mean? Is it possible (it is) that this speaks to the work of the Messiah during this last week of His ministry? Yes, as a result of His perfect sacrifice, there would be no further need (taken away) for any more animal sacrifices. They were indeed "taken away" by His fulfilling and becoming the Passover Lamb of God.
3) So, there are your beginning and ending dates. Now, you can easily calcuate this .... however, there is one small part remaining to connsider to arrive exactly at the 1290 days.... but I will await for you to get to this point....
4) Once you understrand this "formula" provided by God for the 1290 days, you should have no problem calculating the 1335 days that represent His return. As I mentioned earlier, these prophecies in Daniel are all about Him and the first set speaks to and honor the spring feast days while the latter (1335) willl honor the fall feast days.
Everyone in Christ has their own task. There are 7 churches of Revelation, and each has its own role. Since I belong to the Smyrna church, my purpose is to build the Third Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. For this, I need to know some related topics: the timing of the Second Coming, the order of the Second Coming. Because any discussion about the construction of the Temple will inevitably touch on the question: has the time come to build the Temple? Therefore, along with working on the architectural design of the Temple, I was engaged in all the prophecies about the Second Coming, all the numerical prophecies of the Bible.
How? If you study the book of Daniel there is no way anyone could say that Daniel did not write these chapters while he was in Babylon. Again, what is telling you this... someone may claim that "predictive prophecy" does not exist but they are quite wrong. God can and does see the beginning from the end and had given these visions and prophecies to Daniel...
Of course the Scriptures include symbolism, figurative language as well as literal events, but there is no fiction in the Scriptures.
tailgator
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John 10
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
Jesus offered himself .That is no abomination.
You believe Jesus offering himself as a sacrifice is an abomination that causes desolation?
John 10
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
Jesus offered himself .That is no abomination.
tailgator
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Have you ever heard of the day of the Lord?
What is it?
Zech 14
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
All 70 weeks of Daniel were fulfilled on 16 Nisan 32. From the oral COMMAND (not decree!) of King Artaxerxes given to Esther and Mordechai on 16 Nisan 452 BC according to the chronology of the real King Artaxerxes - to 16 Nisan 32, 7 + 62 weeks passed, 483 years. And the 70th week was before that, when Esther was taken as a candidate for queen. Therefore, all 70 weeks have already been fulfilled.
Daniel 9:27 is talking about a completely different week, a super-week, where you need to take the number of days in 7 lunar years and count them as years. 7x354=2478 years. This period ended in the spring of 2020. Then the regular week began, and the second half of this week began in the fall of 2023. By this date, by 1 Tishrei 2023, the Third Temple had to be built. But we did not build the Temple. Everyone is to blame - both Jews and Christians. That is why Hamas attacked on Simchat Torah, and Israel missed the attack. There will be wars from now on. Because there is no Temple.
The meaning of the period of 2478 days is that this period is divided into two parts: before Christ and after His resurrection. Before the resurrection there were 70 weeks. After the resurrection - 71x4 = 284 weeks. According to the law of Moses, you pay four times for a stolen sheep. That is, the Jewish people have already paid four times for the "stolen sheep", and an advance payment for 1 week was also given in advance. This advance payment will enable the Jews to triumph over the hostile nations and occupy the land that God has destined for them. That is how I explained it.
The second important issue is that all English translations of Daniel 9:27 contain a fundamental error.
In fact, the Masoretic text does not have the word "he" there. The verse should be translated something like this:
And one week shall confirm the covenant for many ... (Daniel 9:27)
That is, the "week" itself of 2478 years will confirm the covenant with God for many, because they will understand how God creates. As the fictional books of Esther and Daniel, inspired by God, first indicated the exact date of Christ's resurrection, and now will indicate the construction of the Third Temple and the appearance of the city of Yahweh Shammah in Israel. How God will create the visible from the invisible - many will understand this. Many - but not all.
Yes, but I believe it might be the way you are looking at this.... Remember, Jesus went willingly to the cross and this was God's plan for Him. There are at least two ways to look at this:
1) From the literal view - where His people rejected and crucified their Messiah. There could NOT be a greater crime / transgression man could ever make in this world - to crucity God!!
2) From a theologival view - God had given Moses the 10 commandments as well as all the Levitical ceremonies on the top of Mt. Sinai. This inculded all the rituals, ceremonies, etc., necessary to honor the Sabbatical cylces, the Sprinng feast days and the Fall feast days. But we are told they ALL are a type and shadow of the coming Messiah. When He comes, He will fulfill the Passover Lamb, He will be our High Priest, He will be our Temple and our Sanctuary. After His time on earth, He would fulfill all of the Spring ceremoines and sent His Holy Spirit on Pentecost.
This would completely eliminnate any further need for these ceremonies or the physcial structures - the Temple, the Sanctuary, etc. They have fulfilled their God give mission.
But it is important to understand that Jesus would do exactly what He was asked of by His Father, that not only meant going to the cross but also to honor every law given in Leviticus regarding those same ceremonies. Thus, if you look in Leviticus, you will find that there are REQnUIRED rules to follow for each of those elements. Meaning, that each must be declared "clean" and pure before they can be found within those ceremonies. The priest must be declared clean, the animals must be decleare "clean" without blemish, the Temple must declared "clean." If you look in Leviticus, if these things are not clean or pure in the eyes of God, they are an "abomination." Now, we all agree that Jesus never sinned and could not or never be declared "unclean or impure" however, when He willingly took on the sin of the world on the cross, He would now be in His Father's eyes, an unclean or impure thing. Thus, Jesus would honor to His death all the laws within Leviticus regarding the Passover ceremonies...
So, you might want to think about this....
Is a parable fiction or not? If you think that this is a real event that happened in this world, you are mistaken.
For example, the entire story of the creation of the world in the first chapters of Genesis is a parable. The material Universe arose billions of years ago. Genesis does not depict the external Universe, but the inner world in man. This inner world of Adam will be destroyed, as described in Revelation. At the same time, another world will appear inside people: a new earth and a new heaven. Planet Earth will remain the same.
The Book of the Prophet Jonah is also a parable. The Book of Judith directly says about itself that it describes the fictitious King Nebuchadnezzar, because it calls him the king of Assyria. The books of Esther and Daniel also operate with the names of real kings, but put into their mouths words that the Author of these books invented. Also, the book of Job is fiction: no one stood next to the real Job and there were none of these speeches, even if there were real prototypes of the heroes of this book. All this does not diminish the prophetic significance of all these books.
I don't know what all this means... covid, Esther, lunar years. None of this has anything to do with the 70 weeks of years prophecy. But we are all entitled to study and find our own interpretations. One of the most important things you might want to do regarding the starting date of the 70 weeks, is to travel back in time to the 1st Temple period and determine when it took place and thus, the start of the 3rd Great Jubilee cycle. Only then will you have your starting date. Then, you can calculate the completion of the 3rd Great Jubilee cycle (not an easy task) which means this would be the beginning of the 4th Great Jubilee cycle which just happens to be the exact same date as the beginning of the 70 weeks of years prophecy in 457 BC.
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