Scriptures that show that Christs death saved a person while in unbelief !

[Ritajanice]

Not according to the Bible.
Not according to how God deals with His Children.

God allows his children to go through trials, tribulations and suffering..the word says so..look it up.

We suffer for Christ’s sake...

So, if you believe that God causes cancer, and abortions, and Hitler, and allows the devil into your head then your understanding of God, is not according to God's understanding of Himself.

Nonsense........you make no sense.

See, its JOHN the liar CALVIN, who has recreated GOD, as a cosmic psychopath, who wont allow some people to be saved, and who causes all the bad to happen to you that has happened.

So you keep saying....only I don’t agree..I post the word of God.

 

[Behold]

God allows his children to go through trials, tribulations and suffering..the word says so..look it up.

you "look up"......"God let the devil into my mind".

Find that verse.

No bible has it., yet you believe it because you've been taught to think of God in a way that is not correct.

We suffer for Christ’s sake...

That is not God letting the Devil harm your mind.

But if you want to suffer for Christ, then go out into your street, and start proclaiming that Jesus is coming soon.
You'll then find out what it means to be "persecuted for Christ'""..

Do that instead of trying to sell nonsense John Calvinism concepts on a forum, that insult God, as he did......

 

[Ritajanice]

you "look up"......"God let the devil into my mind".

Find that verse.

He said in 2 Corinthians 11:3, “I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.” Here, Satan's work in our minds is called leading us astray, corrupting our thoughts. We don't know how Satan does it, but there it is; he does it.

He deceived Adam..he can deceive us..if we aren’t vigilant to his scheming ways....just as the word says.

No bible has it., yet you believe it because you've been taught to think of God in a way that is not correct.

Nonsense.

Romans 12:2 says, Do not be conformed to this world...but be transformed (changed) by the [entire] renewal of your mind... (AMPC). We are in a spiritual battle, and we must fight with spiritual weapons. God has given us His Word as our main line of defense against the lies of the enemy.

Ephesians 6:11-18
Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints'

1 Peter 5:8​

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8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour

That is not God letting the Devil harm your mind.

God allows the enemy to attack our mind.

Job was a prime example.

But if you want to suffer for Christ, then go out into your street, and start proclaiming that Jesus is coming soon.
You'll then find out what it means to be "persecuted for Christ'""..

I already have suffered for Christ’s sake and it ain’t the same as what you think it means.

Do that instead of trying to sell nonsense John Calvinism concepts on a forum, that insult God, as he did......

You show me where I post John Calvin...instead of your usual assumptions and accusations that you push..when some don’t agree with your doctrine ?

 

[Behold]

He said in 2 Corinthians 11:3, “I am afraid that as the serpent deceived

You stated that God let the devil into your head.
He didnt.

8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour

Yes, the DEVIL will try to get into your head , your heart, your life........but that is not "God allowed the devil into my head", as you stated.


See, you are stating the common Calvinism false concept that God is causing you to be harmed........when in fact, God does not.

Its the Devil, who harms, who seeks to kill.......and the way He does this to a believer, is to get them caught up in some false theology, or concepts, and then this allows Him ENTRANCE into your thinking...
That is not God allowing it, that is the Devil doing His work and the deceived believer not taking authority over this situation.

Believers are held captive by the devil and by their flesh, based on "lack of knowledge".. lack of correct theology, and understanding regarding whom they have become in Christ.

 

[Ritajanice]

You stated that God let the devil into your head.
He didnt.

He allowed the enemy to attack my mind....

Yes, the DEVIL will try to get into your head , your heart, your life........but that is not "God allowed the devil into my head", as you stated.

You stated that God let the devil into your head.
He didnt.

I said he allows the enemy to attack our minds...the word says so.



Yes, the DEVIL will try to get into your head ,

The enemy got into my head as a new babe...I grew in maturity from that experience...it was meant to be...
what the enemy wanted was to destroy my mind, he nearly did....only God turned it around for good and so that he gets all the glory.
I have a Living relationship with the Spirit..my faith is Alive and Active..

Your understanding of faith and my understanding of faith are very different.

your heart, your

....but that is not "God allowed the devil into my head", as you stated.

God allowed the enemy to attack my mind....

Ephesians 6:11 ESV / 20 helpful votes​

Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil

Good day...I’m not going round in circles again all day with you...I stand by what I posted.

 

[Behold]

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:

Yes, as i told you, there are children of the devil.......and you would insist in multiple posts that everyone is a child of God., and that is not the case.

So, if a person is born again, they are a child of God........and if they are not born again, then they are not a child of God.....they are this..

John 3:36

They are a spiritual child of the Devil......and they are Hell bound, and will go there unless they are born again by God The Father of Jesus.
And once they are, then they are become a child of God, as a "Son/Daughter of God"......

There are no Christians in Hell, and there are no Christ rejectors never born again, going to heaven.

 

[Behold]

He allowed the enemy to attack my mind....

The devil attacks and he deceives as that is His ministry.

If a Christian ends up in that situation, then that is because the Devil is doing what He does.
And he didnt personally attack you........he uses his minions........his demonic forces.
They are always trying to ruin faith, and cause harm.

That is not God allowing it.........that is just the fact of spiritual warfare that exists down here, and its always being encountered by believers.

The enemy got into my head as a new babe...I grew in maturity from that experience...it was meant to be...

Ok, so you were led astray by some false teacher, or commentary , or similar.

That is the Devil's work.........He always comes to the "babe in Christ" with a Mormon, or a JW, or a Calvinist, or some CULT theology.

This is why you have to obey Hebrews 13:9, as soon as you are saved.....or a "doctrine of devils" is going to take your mind.

The reason this happens, is because the new Christian is not around someone who can keep them safe until they are mature enough, spiritually, to be able to SEE the liars and the deceivers.

On a forum like this one......if a new Christians come here, then a Calvinist, like BrightFrame, or some Universalist like St.Steven, is going to ruin their faith.

God allowed the enemy to attack my mind....

God never does this..
You are blaming God for what Satan does, as that is "Calvinism".

 

[Behold]

He allowed the enemy to attack my mind....

God is also not going to make you sick.

So, just understand that God is on your side, and The Devil wants to harm you, and John Calvin has taught you that God is allowing the devil to harm you..
That is a sort of Martyr's complex mental straight jacket that Calvinism puts inside your mind, where you believe that God is crushing you to "make you better"........."make you more spiritual".......and if you continue down this rabbit hole, you'll end up one day with some issue, and think that "God gave me this"..

I wrote a few Threads on "How Calvinism will get you killed"..........and that is how it happens.

See John Calvinism, teaches that God is causing all the evil and harm in this world....and the Devil is somewhere taking a nap.. having some Earl Grey Tea, and some Cake.......and never thinks about us at all. @Ritajanice

John Calvinism wants you to BLAME GOD for what the Devil is doing.

Calvinism is one of the Devil's finest theologies, because it deceives Christians into believing that God wont save everyone, and that God is doing the Devil's work.

 

[Ritajanice]

On a forum like this one......if a new Christians come here, then a Calvinist, like BrightFrame, or some Universalist like St.Steven, is going to ruin their faith.

None of this is true.....if one has truly been Born Of The Spirit....no one can destroy anyone’s faith in Christ....because they have been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever.

If one’s faith can be destroyed, as you put it...then I would question if they were truly Born Again...

A true Born Again who has been birthed by the Spirit....their faith can never be destroyed as it was a gift from God....

 

[Ritajanice]

God is also not going to make you sick.

God allows sickness.

So, just understand that God is on your side, and The Devil wants to harm you, and John Calvin has taught you that God is allowing the devil to harm you.

Who said that God wasn’t on my side?..you said that.

Oh my gosh...are you actually listening to anything I say?

Who said that God wants the devil to harm me?

That is you saying that......our faith is tested...do you actually understand what faith is?

See John Calvinism, teaches that God is causing all the evil and the Devil is somewhere taking a nap.. having some Earl Grey Tea, and some Cake.......and never thinks about us at all.

Once again, you are putting your own words and understanding of my posts.....into print...you have completely twisted what I have said, to suit your own agenda, that i am a Calvinist...

With nothing to back up your twisted words.

 

[brightfame52]

Yes, as i told you, there are children of the devil.......and you would insist in multiple posts that everyone is a child of God., and that is not the case.

So, if a person is born again, they are a child of God........and if they are not born again, then they are not a child of God.....they are this..

John 3:36

They are a spiritual child of the Devil......and they are Hell bound, and will go there unless they are born again by God The Father of Jesus.
And once they are, then they are become a child of God, as a "Son/Daughter of God"......

There are no Christians in Hell, and there are no Christ rejectors never born again, going to heaven.

The children of the devil arent redeemable. Jesus came to save the children of God Heb 2:13-17

13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people

God didnt give Jesus the children of devil, they were never His Brethren

 

[Behold]

None of this is true.....if one has truly been Born Of The Spirit....no one can destroy anyone’s faith in Christ..

Calvinism destroys a Christians faith, by causing them to believe that Jesus didnt die for everyone. And by causing them to Believe that God sends the Devil to you, to try to harm you so that you can "learn".
So, you end up letting the devil beat your brains out, because you think....>>"oh God is teaching me".

Most Denominations, teach that you can lose your salvation, and once you believe this, then your faith is ruined, because you dont Trust in Christ to keep you saved.

 

[Behold]

The children of the devil arent redeemable.

You were a child of the devil before you became a Christian, if in fact you are one.

You are not too ignorant to understand this fact?.....right? @brightfame52

See, you were living for the devil, and that is the case of all unbelievers, and no unbeliever is a child of God.

Or will you say you were a child of God when you were not born again, and living in sin?

 

[brightfame52]

Calvinism destroys a Christians faith, by causing them to believe that Jesus didnt die for everyone. And by causing them to Believe that God sends the Devil to you, to try to harm you so that you can "learn".
So, you end up letting the devil beat your brains out, because you think....>>"oh God is teaching me".

Most Denominations, teach that you can lose your salvation, and once you believe this, then your faith is ruined, because you dont Trust in Christ to keep you saved.

Jesus Christ didnt die for everyone, thats a heresy, to say that. He didnt die for the children of the devil, the tares Matt 13:38

The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

 

[Ritajanice]

Calvinism destroys a Christians faith, by causing them to believe that Jesus didnt die for everyone.

Most Denominations, teach that you can lose your salvation, and once you believe this, then your faith is ruined,

If one has received supernatural faith when their spirit is Born Again...which is a gift from God...then no their faith can never be destroyed.

On the other hand if one isn’t truly Born Again, then they never had supernatural faith in the first place.

because you dont Trust in Christ to keep you saved.

A true Born Again who has been supernaturally birthed by the Spirit...will never have their faith destroyed by anyone....

You said...because you don’t trust Christ to keep you saved?...you aren’t saved not until Spirit gives birth to spirit.

 

[brightfame52]

You were a child of the devil before you became a Christian, if in fact you are one.

You are not too ignorant to understand this fact?.....right? @brightfame52

See, you were living for the devil, and that is the case of all unbelievers, and no unbeliever is a child of God.

Or will you say you were a child of God when you were not born again, and living in sin?

If i am a child of the devil, I cant be redeemed and neither can you if you are a child of the devil, Jesus redeems the children of God, his fallen brethren.

 

[Ritajanice]

You were a child of the devil before you became a Christian, if in fact you are one.

There’s another accusation.

 

[Behold]

God allows sickness.

Sickness exists in a fallen world, because God allowed Adam a choice.


So, its by """""ONE MANS's SIN< that sin entered this world""""", and the fruit of that sin, is many things, including murder, rape, hate, and sickness, mental illness, poverty, WAR....

That is not God allowing it....that is God choosing to give Adam dominion over this world that was transferred to Satan, once Adam disobeyed God.

So...What you see as "EVIL"... or all the wrong in the world like HAMAS killing Jewish Babies by burning them in Ovens...last Oct 7, 2023...... all of this HORROR...that is in this world is based on Adam's Free Will Choice.........and the end result of this, is all the evil that has befallen this world and all of us.

A.) The FALL of it all and all the evil in this world is based on, = ADAM's rebellion, and 2nd Adam is coming to restore and make right, what has been so wrong, since 1st Adam rebelled which allowed Satan to become the "god of this world".. .and He is the author of all the WRONG........all of it.

God allowed Adam to make a wrong choice, just like he allows us the same free will........ and the result of this, is everything that is wrong with this world and in this world.

Jesus is coming back to avenge and make right what has been wrong since Adam rebelled which turned this world into a black circus of chaos and death and destruction.

 

[Ritajanice]

Calvinism destroys a Christians faith, by causing them to believe that Jesus didnt die for everyone. And by causing them to Believe that God sends the Devil to you, to try to harm you so that you can "learn".
So, you end up letting the devil beat your brains out, because you think....>>"oh God is teaching me".

Most Denominations, teach that you can lose your salvation, and once you believe this, then your faith is ruined, because you dont Trust in Christ to keep you saved.

Your posts are so confusing and have twisted everything that I said to you.

How you got that out of my posts is unbelievable...and a member is actually agreeing with your posts, their just as confused as you are trying to make me, Praise God for discernment.

 

[Behold]

If i am a child of the devil,

Let me show you again..

1.) You, me, everyone.......are of the "adamic nature", and that simply means that we are "born in sin", "conceived in sin".

Sin, is the Devil's nature..... and we all have this as our "flesh".. as we are "adamic"........fallen........ separated from God.

So, in this STATE, we are as Jesus said......>"You are of YOUR FATHER.. the DEVIL, and the LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER, you will do".

And that is why a person LOVES TO SIN......., as that is your NATURE.......from the womb.


2.) Being born again... means that God has become our NEW Father, and we are no longer : "of your Father the DeviL".

And now being born of God, we are newly become a CHILD of God, by Spiritual Birth.....and noone is, until this happens.

This is why Jesus told this world........."YOU MUST.. be born again">.