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You are not dealing with Premils now!

Further proof that you see yourself superior to Premils. Further proof that you are obviously arrogant. But it doesn't matter anyway, I guess. You already have a low opinion of me as a person, a person that you don't even know personally.
 

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when one needs to fall back on the old tripe of "men's traditions" it is always the one making that remark is of a man's tradition.

So when Christ's servants merely mention the devil, per your view, that means they are devil worshippers??? That's a STUPID comparison. It's like those who see fruit in a bicycle basket make all future assumption that all... bicycles have baskets of fruit! That's how ignorant your analogy is.
 

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What is the logic in satan attacking his own people? Look what the text says.
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Don't know where the heck you get that idea from. It certainly is not from the Rev.9 Scripture, for that is about the locust army which GOD HIMSELF sends in the last days. It's about the locust army first mentioned in the Book of Joel. You should study it with Rev.9.

In Joel 2, haven't you read this?

Joel 2:25
25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm,
My great army which I sent among you.
KJV

So, is that how your Church has taught you to treat God's Word, to just slice any Scripture out of it and apply it HOW YOU SEE FIT? Lot of preachers in today's pulpits do just that, but God did not 'call' those. They aren't given to understand His Word, and get in trouble if they try to preach anything more from God's Word than The Gospel.
 

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LOL. You say things like this because you did not like the truth when you hear, so I am good. Like I said many times, the Lord judges and I am comfortable with it. :-)
No! You were caught on, and you did not have the honesty and humility to throw the hands up.
 
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Further proof that you see yourself superior to Premils. Further proof that you are obviously arrogant. But it doesn't matter anyway, I guess. You already have a low opinion of me as a person, a person that you don't even know personally.
This us all you have: ad hominem. Address the issues, instead of constantly avoiding them and misrepresenting Amil.
 

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So when Christ's servants merely mention the devil, per your view, that means they are devil worshippers??? That's a STUPID comparison. It's like those who see fruit in a bicycle basket make all future assumption that all... bicycles have baskets of fruit! That's how ignorant your analogy is.
It's called projection.
 
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It's called projection.

No, the idea of projection in the field of Psychology is what YOU are doing. How long have you had that problem of projecting your own faults and problems onto others, so you won't have to recognize that you are the problem?
 

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No, the idea of projection in the field of Psychology is what YOU are doing. How long have you had that problem of projecting your own faults and problems onto others, so you won't have to recognize that you are the problem?
Address the counter arguments and stop avoiding! That is your modus operandi!
 

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Don't know where the heck you get that idea from. It certainly is not from the Rev.9 Scripture, for that is about the locust army which GOD HIMSELF sends in the last days. It's about the locust army first mentioned in the Book of Joel. You should study it with Rev.9.

In Joel 2, haven't you read this?

Joel 2:25
25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm,
My great army which I sent among you.
KJV

So, is that how your Church has taught you to treat God's Word, to just slice any Scripture out of it and apply it HOW YOU SEE FIT? Lot of preachers in today's pulpits do just that, but God did not 'call' those. They aren't given to understand His Word, and get in trouble if they try to preach anything more from God's Word than The Gospel.

What exactly are we in disageement about then? I agree God is the one sending these armies. Amils have this involving satan somehow, that satan is attacking the unsaved rather than God doing that.

And as to comments about about my church, well I don't have a church I attend nor do I have a pastor I listen to. You don't know what you re talking about then. It's bad enough Amils have to falsely accuse me of things, and here you are basically doing the same thing, as if you know me personally, as in as if you have met me or something. And so what if I don't attend church anymore? The 80s ruined it for me when I attended church all of the time. IOW, way too many false teachers pastoring churches these days. Except the churches I attended, Eschatology was not anything being taught. Pretty much everything I know or at least think I know about Eschatology is from my own readings of the Bible since I am capable of thinking for myself.
 

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And as to comments about about my church, well I don't have a church I attend nor do I have a pastor I listen to. You don't know what you re talking about then. It's bad enough Amils have to falsely accuse me of things, and here you are basically doing the same thing, as if you know me personally, as in as if you have met me or something. And so what if I don't attend church anymore? The 80s ruined it for me when I attended church all of the time. IOW, way too many false teachers pastoring churches these days. Except the churches I attended, Eschatology was not anything being taught. Pretty much everything I know or at least think I know about Eschatology is from my own readings of the Bible since I am capable of thinking for myself.

Wow! Why am I not surprised? This says a lot! You are rebellion against God's Word. Do you think you are exempt from God's commands? The bottom line is: you think you know it all and no one is going to tell you anything. This explains a lot! You're totally on accountable to anyone. This is rebellion again God's truth!

Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
 

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Address the counter arguments and stop avoiding! That is your modus operandi!

That's just more lies in a vain attempt at defamation of character. May God rebuke you, in the Name of Jesus Christ.
 

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That's just more lies in a vain attempt at defamation of character. May God rebuke you, in the Name of Jesus Christ.
You have nothing to bring to the table apart from ad hominem. Your doctrine is in pieces. It cannot abide biblical scrutiny.
 

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What exactly are we in disageement about then? I agree God is the one sending these armies. Amils have this involving satan somehow, that satan is attacking the unsaved rather than God doing that.

You were the one who asked me in your post #139 what the logic was about the idea of Satan attacking his own people, your trying to use the Rev.9 events. I NEVER even alluded to such an idea as Satan attacking his own people!


And as to comments about about my church, well I don't have a church I attend nor do I have a pastor I listen to. You don't know what you re talking about then. It's bad enough Amils have to falsely accuse me of things, and here you are basically doing the same thing, as if you know me personally, as in as if you have met me or something. And so what if I don't attend church anymore? The 80s ruined it for me when I attended church all of the time. IOW, way too many false teachers pastoring churches these days. Except the churches I attended, Eschatology was not anything being taught. Pretty much everything I know or at least think I know about Eschatology is from my own readings of the Bible since I am capable of thinking for myself.

I'm not Amill. I believe like God's Word says as written, Christ returns prior to His future "thousand years" reign with His elect.

I only know what you say. So yes, based on what you responded to me before, I questioned your understanding. So were you aware of the Book of Joel speaking about the locusts of Rev.9, or not?
 

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You have nothing to bring to the table apart from ad hominem. Your doctrine is in pieces. It cannot abide biblical scrutiny.
:Laughingoutloud:

That's funny, since I'm constantly showing actual Bible Scripture to back up what I teach. And my words actually make sense in alignment with the actual 'written' Bible Scripture. That's why the Biblically illiterate like yourself is faced with responding with silly statements like the above.
 
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:Laughingoutloud:

That's funny, since I'm constantly showing actual Bible Scripture to back up what I teach. And my words actually make sense in alignment with the actual 'written' Bible Scripture. That's why the Biblically illiterate like yourself is faced with responding with silly statements like the above.
When your misinterpretation of those texts are exposed you ignore them. Look at how many counter-arguments you avoid. That is your modus operandi. Why can you not admit it?
 
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:Laughingoutloud:

That's funny, since I'm constantly showing actual Bible Scripture to back up what I teach.
What good is that if you show Bible scriptures while adding misinterpretations of them?

And my words actually make sense in alignment with the actual 'written' Bible Scripture.
Not when it comes to Premill. :Laughingoutloud:

That's why the Biblically illiterate like yourself is faced with responding with silly statements like the above.
Says the guy who agrees with Amills and no other Premills on passages like John 5:28-29, but still is Premill somehow. You're a living contradiction. Talk about Biblically illiterate. Look in the mirror. The only scripture you can understand is very literal, straightforward scripture like Matthew 24:29-31. So, you understand that post-trib is correct because of that. But, anything that is not simple like that? You can't understand it. You lack spiritual discernment. You can only understand very simple things.
 

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Satan is bound from those who are born again. All the apostles were able to bind him and rebuke him. Jesus took his power of death away, by overcoming death, and Jesus overcame death because death could not bind Him or contain Him. You have the power, through Jesus name, to speak to evil spirits and make them flee from you. After all, that is the test of your faith, and faith "MUST" be tested, thus the purpose for this physical creation. A testing ground. A maze with no physical exit except through the cross as a bridge to the other side. Even if one could travel throughout space, it is still the physical creation, and remains a maze, without an exit, except larger.
 

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Satan is bound from those who are born again. All the apostles were able to bind him and rebuke him. Jesus took his power of death away, by overcoming death, and Jesus overcame death because death could not bind Him or contain Him. You have the power, through Jesus name, to speak to evil spirits and make them flee from you. After all, that is the test of your faith, and faith "MUST" be tested, thus the purpose for this physical creation. A testing ground. A maze with no physical exit except through the cross as a bridge to the other side. Even if one could travel throughout space, it is still the physical creation, and remains a maze, without an exit, except larger.

Yes, that is for those of us who STAY IN THE FAITH, and don't become apostates, like those which Apostles Paul and Peter warned about in 2 Peter 2; Titus 1; 1 Timothy 4; 2 Timothy 3; 2 Timothy 4; etc.

We should also anoint ourselves with oil, like Apostle James said. And anoint our door posts while casting evil spirits out of our homes, all in the Name of Jesus Christ.
 

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We are already anointed and have the Holy spirit living in us. Also, the Holy spirit is the spirit of christ, therefore christ also lives in us. Jesus said, I will never leave you or forsake you. Taking oil and repeating a ritual is nothing more than religious futility, like dipping a finger in water and calling it holy.

There are no evil spirits in my home because we're anointed and in Jesus presence evil doesn't reside. However, If those who preach a different Gospel than Jesus knocks on my door, I get it turned around quickly. They either listen and recieve, and some have, or leave, and many have done that too, and my home remains the temple of the Lord.
 
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