SALVATION OF ANIMALS

[Ronald Nolette]

How I see John 8:58...
Jesus did not literally exist before his conception in Mary, but he “existed” in the plan of God, and was foretold in prophecy. Prophecies of the coming redeemer start as early as Genesis 3:15, which was before Abraham. Jesus was “the one” the Savior, long before Abraham. The Church did not literally exist as people for God to choose us before the foundation of the world. We existed in the mind of God. Similarly, Jesus did not exist as an actual physical person during the time of Abraham, but he “existed” in the mind of God as God’s plan for the redemption of man.

All your nice sounding philosophy and slick talking does not overrule the fact that God's Word said He existed.

He made all things.

He is Jehovah of Hosts
He is part of Elohim (not the singular elowah)
He is part of Adonai (not the singular Adon)

Even Jesus declared He existed before HIs Incarnation.

John 8:56-59

King James Version

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56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

His name was called the Word of God. NOthing was made apart from Jesus/the Word.

John 1

King James Version

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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Personal not impersonal pronoun.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

You may be a self proclaimed great scholar, but not of god's Word.