Revelation 7: 4-8 The 144000

[CTK]

How do you prove from Scripture what you allege? Where can I find there will be 144,000 ethnically from all the tribes of the children of Israel chosen to be evangelists to preach the Good News for 3.5 years before the return of Christ? It's true I too have heard many different interpretations and views regarding the book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ. But if our interpretations and views cannot be reconciled through the Word, and in fact force contradictions into the Word of God, we are in error and our view must be discarded. I'm sorry, but your view does indeed force contradiction and cannot be reconciled through the Word of God.

Thanks for your comments, but I am comfortable with my interpretations, the details that I have already given you, how they tie into the rest of the relevant verses in Revelation as well as in both the New and Old Testament.

 

[CTK]

Perhaps it is you CTK who is committed to your theory! Because truly that is all you have, making your doctrine to be in error.

That is fine… but as I mentioned to you much earlier, there really is no need to continue this… we just have different interpretations.

 

[Timtofly]

Your replies are lengthy and contain much detail but fail to address the point I briefly make. Can you briefly respond to what I've said: "If the 144,000 literally represent God's chosen witnesses at the end of time physically preaching the Good News as Paul did in the first century, only their mission as the final call for man to turn to God through Christ, why does John write they are with Christ on heavenly mount Sion as first fruits redeemed from men before the throne of God? They shall not become the first fruits unto God and the Lamb! They ARE the first fruits unto God and the Lamb, having already been redeemed from among men!"

This statement implies the first fruits unto God and the Lamb are not spiritual Jews living during the end of days. Since they are already the spiritual body of Christ in heavenly Jerusalem, they are in the heavenly realm of God being made spiritually alive after physical death when the Spirit of Christ came to seal them with spiritual life. That's why John writes they are (not shall be) redeemed from the earth having the Father's name written in their foreheads. "These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."

What you call the "end of time", will last for over a thousand years. While your "end of time" started 2,000 years ago; this future end of time will also last for hundreds of years.

Personally, I would not call the Second Coming, "the end of time".