Revelation 16

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Douggg

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2020
3,436
262
83
76
Memphis
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I am so sorry, that I came to that understanding but your charts are so many for the same time period that they have become confusing and difficult to understand because of your mismatching of the different prophecies to match your posting whims at the time of your publishing them in all of the various threads that you have inserted your "charts/diagrams," into.

Goodbye
Jay, I understand that with so many posters posting, it is easy to get mixed up with who said what. The chart I posted in my post #15 above should be easy enough to read and understand what my view is.

Yes, I do post a lot of charts. One reason is that with words only, it is hard, if not impossible, to convey timeline events, how they relate to one another. I wish more posters would learn to make charts and include them in their posts (along with sentences of course) of what their view(s) are.
 
Last edited:

Douggg

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2020
3,436
262
83
76
Memphis
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Same for the bowls, as each bowl is released they reveal a different reason for destruction, yet, He is still willing to show us that there still is mercy until the very last bowl. However, this is just His method of explaining everything to us as if they were to take place in a chronological fashion- but they don’t and will not
What is your basis that the bowls (vials) of God's wrath are not chronological ?
 

TribulationSigns

Well-Known Member
May 1, 2023
1,453
385
83
55
Somewhere west of Mississippi River
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
What is your basis that the bowls (vials) of God's wrath are not chronological ?

Haven't you read? The number seven signifies completion. Not seven different plagues poured out at seven different times. The bowls have seven different aspects of only ONE and SAME judgment.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: CTK and Marty fox

Douggg

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2020
3,436
262
83
76
Memphis
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Haven't you read? The number seven signifies completion. Not seven different plagues poured out at seven different times
Then why are there 7 angels each given a vial - instead of 1 angel given 7 vials to pour all out together?

Each of the 7 angels has an assignment to pour out his vial at a particular time chronologically.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Keraz

Douggg

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2020
3,436
262
83
76
Memphis
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The white horse without a bow is the beginning of the papacy and he uses cunning, deception, etc., to gain power. This will continue until the next church period (~800AD) when he will use the destructive powers mentioned in the red horse… The relationships are amazing!
The rider on the white horse in Revelation 6:2 has nothing to with the papacy.

You say the rider does not have a bow. But the text says the rider has a bow.

Revelation 6:
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

The verse is talking about the coming Antichrist. Riding a white horse in the verse because he will be perceived to the messiah. The crown that he will be is give that he will be anointed the King of Israel, by the false prophet person who the Jews will initially think the false prophet person is Elijah spiritually speaking.

The Jews (Judaism) as one their traditions, at their annual Passover meal set a plate for Elijah, to symbolically represent their expectation of Elijah coming to take part in the beginning of the messianic age.

The Jews (Judaism) have a belief that the messiah will be anointed the King of Israel by a "known" prophet - to use their words.

The events of the end times have a Jewish flavor to them, not the papacy. The temple to be built and animal sacrifices started again - is a Jewish desire - not that of the papacy. And the stopping of the animal sacrifices will be by the Jews' thought-to-be messiah, the Antichrist, when he reals himself to be the man of sin - and not the messiah as the Jews will have in error thought for a short time.

CTK, you need to give up on that papacy is the little horn, rider on the white horse, notion. The person will be a Jew and not in a Christian role.
 

Douggg

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2020
3,436
262
83
76
Memphis
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I am now focusing on Revelation 16 and would like to ask everyone if these 7 bowls are literal or symbolic. And I mean that of course God is going to destroy everything and make everything new, but at the time of the end of chapter 16, is everything destroyed or to be destroyed as He describes in chapter 16.
vial 1 - horrible sore on them who took the mark

vial 2 - ever creature in the sea died

vial 3 - freshwater's turned to blood

vial 4 - me scorched from the sun

vial 5 - darkness and pain in the beast's kingdom

vial 6 - Euphrates dried up, armies assemble at Armageddon

vial 7 - Great earthquake, massive hail plague