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covenantee

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Jesus said love your enemies. I love you. But you're not a Jew!
If the Jerusalem Post Jews reported that there was record immigration, you'd believe them.

So why don't you believe them when they report record emigration?
 

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If the Jerusalem Post Jews reported that there was record immigration, you'd believe them.

So why don't you believe them when they report record emigration?
Is the Jerusalem Post your god? Jesus is my God!
 

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Good for you!

Jesus is always right even when you twist what He said!
Glad you recognize it. Remember when you're extolling Jews that only a remnant will be saved. Isaiah 10:22; Romans 9:27

Have a good night.
 

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sorry you had to write all that , but dont expect me to buy it .
PRE tribbers call them TRIBULATION saints to help support ITS OWN VIEW . you do realize that .... right , maybe , oh i hope so .
Did you know you can actually see how clear it is
specially , wait for it , when you read the second letter to the thessalonians pay close attention to THE FIRST CHAPTER . most miss it . .
You gonna see it real clear . ITS A ONE TIME EVENT . one time event . he cometh for HIS CHURCH
and lays down HIS WRATH against the ungodly , who persecuted the church friend . PAUL knew it was a one time event .
Even peter knew it . THEY all did . pre trib dont . BUT JESUS TAUGHT IT , pre trib dont , but the apostels taught it
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notice what it says in genesis , abraham KEPT MY LAW . when the law itself had not yet even been given by moses .
Abraham , BELIEVED GOD .
and IF GOD said do HE DID and GOD SHOWED abraham something
on that there moutain
JESUS later says something about mr abraham, HE SEEN MY DAY , HE SAW MY DAY HE SAW MY DAY
and HE rejoiced and was GLAD . go back and read the words GOD tells To abraham
when abraham did not withhold HIS ONLY SON . AND then REMEMBER THE NAME abraham GAVE that MOUTIAIN .
JEHOVAH JIREH . IN the MOUNT of the LORD it shall be seen , shall be PROVIDED . TO abraham WAS THE GOSPEL preached .
YES Indeed my friend . YES INDEED . TO THE LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY be all GLOR Y and ALL HONOR .
HE HAS SAVED HIS PEOPLES and made the two folds ONE . PRAISE BE TO THE KING OF KINGS and LORD of LORDS .
oh , and always remember INTERFAITH cometh of ANTI CHRIST . keep that in mind cause its gonna get worse .
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HERE is the LAW we do heed , trust and obey .
THIS IS MY BELOVED SON in whom i am well pleased , HEAR HIM . HEAR HIM . HEAR HIM .
the law is spiritual . Even the very law testified , as did the prophets and others OF THE COMING SAVOIR .
Let all that has breath praise and thank the glorious LORD and always remember THE JESUS is no minstir of sin
so if ones jesus seemeth to be an approver of sins , THEN please know and understand WHY that jesus gets NOT CAPS .
CAUSE IT AINT JESUS . Now let all that has breath both praise and thank the GLorious RISEN KING JESUS
LET all that draws breath Lift those hands in thunderous praise and many thanksgivings .
He who honors the SON , HONORS the FATHER .
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Not even close my near and dear friend . that aint saying UNBELIEVERS , it means BLEIEVING JEWS and GENTILES .
they the one new man in CHRIST . everything else , is under the power and sway of darkness .
SO i suggest to all , whether a hebrew or a gentile , WE GETS REAL BUSY pointing to GOD , and when i say GOD
that MEAN HIS CHRIST JESUS friend .
Here is a reminder from SAID JESUS to unbelieving jews , IF GOD WERE YOUR FATHER you would have LOVED ME
here is another reminder to them same unbeliving jews who said WE HAVE ONE FATHER ITS GOD ,
JESUS said ye are of your ................wait for it , father the DEVIL . yeah ITS GOSPEL PREACHING TIME
, TIME to remind any and all of the dire and i do mean DIRE and ABSOLUTE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and
lets do this fast too .
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Did you SEE Exodus 12:43-49
this includes Brother @marks and @Atarah

Even under the OT Law a "stranger/Gentile" can become an Israelite.
How did a stranger/Gentile become a Israelite Citizen of the Commonwealth of Covenant???

PASSOVER = the Blood of the Passover Lamb = One Law for the Jew and the Gentile

How much more are we Eternally BIRTHED into the Israel of God by the BLOOD of JESUS the MESSIAH

My Birth-RIGHT is in Heaven Above, in the New Jerusalem at the Right Hand of God.

HalleluYAH
Yes, you can become an Israelite, a proselyte, but it's all the way or no way. Get circumcised and place yourself under "a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear." And then what? Do you have any added benefits over a Gentile who has placed himself under the Lordship of Jesus after asking Him to pay for his sin? Does God show partiality?
 

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Ya dont see me preaching interfaith common ground unity false love stuff .
I sure dont seems to see me hardly anyone helping me TO REMIND ALL about the DIRE NEED to BELIEVE
on JESUS the CHRIST . and when i expose interfaith , the social gospel , the finding common ground crap
the fact that all other religons are false . I SURE DO have some folks coming right after me .
YOU MIGHT KNOW SOME . it aint me preaching some other gospel and giving out some other hope
But thanks for the concern for my welfare , JUST MAKE SURE you aint one of those who follows
this interfaith , finding common ground , abraham peace accords , bridge builders , tearing down walls
doctrines that diivide crap . cause if you are , YOU are being led RIGHT TO THE LIE of ANTI CHRIST and HIS false love plan .
Any moment now, our brother @amigo de christo will be spotted. Let the LORD be thanked and praised.
 
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Did you SEE Exodus 12:43-49
this includes Brother @marks and @Atarah

Even under the OT Law a "stranger/Gentile" can become an Israelite.
How did a stranger/Gentile become a Israelite Citizen of the Commonwealth of Covenant???

PASSOVER = the Blood of the Passover Lamb = One Law for the Jew and the Gentile

How much more are we Eternally BIRTHED into the Israel of God by the BLOOD of JESUS the MESSIAH

My Birth-RIGHT is in Heaven Above, in the New Jerusalem at the Right Hand of God.

HalleluYAH
Ekklesia, the Greek word mistranslated as 'church,' means 'called out to assemble to govern' (as shown in Acts 19). Called out of what? The world? Out of Judaism? Called into Israel? What were Israelites called out of?
 
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Ekklesia, the Greek word mistranslated as 'church,' means 'called out to assemble to govern' (as shown in Acts 19). Called out of what? The world? Out of Judaism? Called into Israel? What were Israelites called out of?
GREAT - It is very important that you understand "ekklesia"

This is the SAME meaning and application that God spoke in the OT about the children of Israel.

God's Holy People, which are Jew & Gentile in the Body of MESSIAH are a "ekklessia" = Called out Assembly unto God

We, the Body of MESSIAH are 'Called out from the world, which is the kingdom of darkness under satan who is the god of this world'

A.) Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who are called, loved by God the Father, and kept in Jesus Christ:

B.) Jesus therefore answered and said to them, “Do not murmur among yourselves.
No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

C.) And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.

We are CALLED OUT of the world and it's antichrist dominion unto the FATHER thru the LORD Jesus Christ that we may KNOW HIM and be partakers of HIS Divine Nature by His HOLY SPIRIT = this is the GOSPEL = Salvation from the world which is condemned by SIN

@marks also @covenantee
 
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Yes, you can become an Israelite, a proselyte, but it's all the way or no way. Get circumcised and place yourself under "a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear." And then what? Do you have any added benefits over a Gentile who has placed himself under the Lordship of Jesus after asking Him to pay for his sin? Does God show partiality?
You combined the OT with the NT which is NOT what i posted to you.

The Purpose of the OT was/is to bring us to MESSIAH = Galatians 3:21-25

Under the OT, God gave a covenant to His people UNDER the Passover lamb which Began with Moses in Egypt.

This OT passover of the blood of a lamb is PROPHECY of the TRUE LAMB of God which takes away the sins of the world.

The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! This is He of whom I said, ‘After me comes a Man who is preferred before me, for He was before me.’ I did not know Him; but that He should be revealed to Israel, therefore I came baptizing with water.”
 

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Scripture please.
Genesis 35:1 - Then God said to Jacob, “Arise, go up to Bethel and dwell there; and make an altar there to God, who appeared to you when you fled from the face of Esau your brother.”

Genesis 35:9-15 - Then God appeared to Jacob again, when he came from Padan Aram, and blessed him.
And God said to him, “Your name is Jacob; your name shall not be called Jacob anymore, but Israel shall be your name.
So He called his name Israel.
Also God said to him: “I am God Almighty. Be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations(PLURAL)
shall proceed from you
, and
kings shall come from your body.
The land which I gave Abraham and Isaac I give to you; and to your descendants after you I give this land.”
Then God went up from him in the place where He talked with him.
So Jacob set up a pillar in the place where He talked with him, a pillar of stone; and he poured a drink offering on it, and he poured oil on it. And Jacob called the name of the place where God spoke with him, Bethel.

@Atarah @marks = what do you see?

@amigo de christo @Marvelloustime @ewq1938 @jeffweeder = what do you SEE
 

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Where have you been my Brother?

Go ask @Douggg and @Bladerunner and the other pre-fibbers.

They will all tell you that pre-trib rapture occurs BEFORE His Second Coming and the Resurrection
Here , watch, listen, from what they say.

CORRECT - the Saints go thru the GT and most will die for refusing the MARK

So you now know there is no truth to pre-trib rapture.
In your mind, how do they survive?
 

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l was taught . and what church do you suppose taught me .
cause the last time i checked i simply read and read and read MY own bible .
Yes sir . i actually was not taught anything from the churches . do that suprise you my friend .
Here is my story .
Yes i had heard the gospel at age four by my mama , then again at age eight
at a church i had visited while waiting for my friends .
Then over the years i think at age fourteen i had been invited to a jay strack preaching .
Anyway years and years passed and went . THEN on may thirtieth
Suddenly a stirring began in me . And all of sudden i remembered the gospel and had this REAL DEEP
hunger for GOD . so He put me in the bible , and i read it every day , hours daily
a few times even eight hours a day , no sir i am not boasting in me just explaining .
Any way i have loved to read it and do so and have done so daily and even with others .
WOW may thirtieth . cant believe its been over EIGHTEEN years ago .
YOU know what , I SUGGEST you do the same for YOU and do not read it through mens stuff .
JUST read it for you . man i tell ya , the more you read it the more you just gonna enjoy reading it .
YOU be blessed now . and please understand i am not being mean when i tell you
I WONT be following pre trib . my advice to you , dont just believe that pre trib , , , just really love and read the bible for yourself .
Then discard the pretrib rapture verses

Then pretend you actually have a single postrib rapture verse.

Then keep the lie and illusion that the " other comings" in the bible are actually Jesus in a magical transfiguration of different entities

The guy on a cloud with no horses or sword, magically has horses and a sword
 
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