Eternally Grateful
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lol.. No. we just know how to read. and interpret the word. Not look for pet passages we think support us, then try to shove them down others throats..
OSAS : Gnostic Heresy
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Eternally Grateful
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Another troll
We actually DO SAY THIS.
But you to are blinded by your doctrinal thinking, so you to can only hear through tainted ears..
But keep talking, Your only hurting yourself by your misunderstanding of what others say and believe. I mean think about it. If you can not interpret us properly. why should ANYONE think you can interpret Gods word properly.
Eternally Grateful
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Absolutely--
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His blog.
Really astonishing.
Eternally Grateful
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I do not for the life of me know how he is allowed to continue here..
Why shouldn't he be? Ignorance is no disqualifier from posting on a forum like this.
In full agreement.
Problematic Teachings:
We all might get our theology wrong sometimes, not intentionally but because of human limitations. However, when someone with a large following preaches something that deviates from the core message of the gospel, it becomes a serious concern. This isn't just about making mistakes; it's about the potential to lead many people astray.
Biblical Warnings:
Galatians 1:8-9:
Paul strongly warns, "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse." This emphasizes the gravity of teaching a different gospel, especially with a large audience.
James 3:1:
"Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly." This passage highlights the greater responsibility and scrutiny that teachers face. When someone with a significant platform teaches, the impact of their words is magnified, and so is their accountability.
2 Timothy 4:3-4:
Paul writes, "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." This serves as a reminder that people may be drawn to teachings that are not sound, especially if those teachings are widely popular.
The Call for Discernment:
As believers, we are called to be discerning. Acts 17:11 commends the Bereans for examining the Scriptures daily to see if what Paul said was true. We should do the same, regardless of the popularity of the teacher. Testing everything against the Word of God is crucial (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
Conclusion:
In the end, while we may all make theological errors, the responsibility of preaching to a large audience comes with a higher level of accountability. It's essential to ensure that what is taught aligns with the gospel and Scripture. As followers, we must be diligent in comparing teachings to the Bible, remaining vigilant against deviations that can lead us away from the truth.
Eternally Grateful
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He is far past the idea that he is ignorant. He has been shown the truth from so many people in so many different chatrooms.
He has seen, heard and knows the truth, He just refuses to repent,
This is actually one of the few (maybe the only one) that he has not been banned from..
Preaching a heteron gospel allowed?
Galatians 1:6-9 (ESV):
"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Parsing the Greek Words:
ἕτερον εὐαγγέλιον (heteron euangelion) – "another gospel":
ἕτερον (heteron): This word means "another" or "different," implying something of a different kind or nature. It's used to denote something that is fundamentally different from the original.
εὐαγγέλιον (euangelion): This word means "gospel" or "good news." In the context of the New Testament, it refers to the good news of Jesus Christ's death, resurrection, and offer of salvation.
ἀνάθεμα (anathema) – "accursed":
Paul uses the term ἀνάθεμα to express a severe curse. This word conveys the idea of being devoted to destruction or under a divine curse. It underscores the seriousness of preaching a different gospel.
Context and Implications:
Different Kind (ἕτερον):
When Paul says "ἕτερον εὐαγγέλιον," he is referring to a gospel that is fundamentally different from the true gospel he preached. It's not just a slight variation but a completely different message that contradicts the core of the Christian faith.
Not Another (οὐκ ἄλλο):
Paul clarifies that there is no other true gospel. The phrase "οὐκ ἄλλο" (not another) indicates that any so-called gospel that deviates from the one true gospel is inherently false.
Distorting the Gospel (μεταστρέψαι τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τοῦ Χριστοῦ):
Paul accuses the false teachers of wanting to "distort" the gospel of Christ. The verb μεταστρέφω (metastrepho) means "to turn around" or "to change." This indicates that the false teachers were twisting the true message into something it was never meant to be.
Accursed (ἀνάθεμα):
Paul’s declaration that those who preach a different gospel should be "accursed" shows the gravity of the offense. Preaching a different gospel is not a minor error but a significant deviation with severe consequences.
Conclusion:
Preaching "another gospel" (ἕτερον εὐαγγέλιον) is unequivocally condemned in the New Testament. Paul makes it clear that any deviation from the true gospel of Christ is fundamentally different and false. Such teachings lead people astray and distort the core message of salvation through Jesus Christ. The use of strong language like "ἀνάθεμα" underscores the seriousness with which Paul views this issue. Thus, it is not permissible to preach a different gospel, and those who do so are under a divine curse, emphasizing the need for adherence to the true message of the gospel.
Everybody has the option not to read his tripe. Banning him for being both wrong and strident about it is a harsh step.
Eternally Grateful
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You bann people who are dangerous.. They should not be allowed to spread their idiology on a christian chatroom.
It is one thing when you have doctrinal differencesd (OSAS vs NOSAS)
but what he teaches is so far out there. and he is very charismatic, and always gathers a following.. Thats why you ban them.
Perhaps it would be better if he focused on his YouTube channel and refrained from spreading seeds of deception here?
It seems we've embraced everything in the name of love, allowing doctrines of demons to infiltrate without exercising proper church discipline. Social justice and WOKE ideologies are sweeping through everything.
Biblical Support:
Doctrines of Demons:
1 Timothy 4:1: "Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons."
Exercising Church Discipline:
Matthew 18:15-17: "If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector."
Standing Firm in the Faith:
Jude 1:3: "Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people."
Not Conforming to Worldly Ideologies:
Romans 12:2: "Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will."
By neglecting to uphold sound doctrine and allowing these influences to take root, we risk compromising the faith. It's crucial to return to the teachings of Scripture and exercise the necessary discipline to maintain the purity and integrity of the church.
Correct?
BarneyFife
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I don't post ideology or opinion.
All I have done is post scripture.
Jesus taught us the truth. What He tells us to do is not up for discussion.
Either you believe and do what He said for us to do, or you don't.
He gave us all the same warning and instruction. He doesn't have favorites.
If means we have a choice. Anyone refers to anyone. Abide means remain. Jesus desires us to remain in Him, because in Him is eternal life.
The Apostle John recorded the words of Christ for us to read and do. Jesus gave John the same instructions He gave to all His disciples.
If anyone does not abide in Me,...
If anyone doesn't remain in Him, then these are the consequences... and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.
Here is how the Apostle John instructed us by the Holy Spirit to remain in Christ.
Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24
Why would any Christian want to live in disobedience to Christ.
His commandments are instructions about love; Loving God and loving people.
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3
If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 1 John 4:20
JLB
What do you mean by "interpret". There is nothing to interpret.
Do you believe what Jesus said here?
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6
Jesus says if anyone does not remain in Him...
John instructs us how to remain in Christ -
- he who keeps His commandments abides in Him
Do you have trouble with keeping His commandments. Do you believe that maybe you are excluded from these instructions?
His commandments are about love; loving God and loving people.
If we claim to know Him and do not keep His commandments we are liars and the truth is not in us.
He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:4
Christians who lie, and hate and are sexually immoral, and are idolaters and such will be cast into the lake of fire.
He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:7-8
Fire. Cast into the fire and burned.
- they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6
JLB
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