Once Saved, Always Saved?

[BloodBought 1953]

Assurance of salvation comes from how you live

Assurance comes from actually Believing that God will keep His Word.....like when God says in the Gospel that Jesus died for your sins , you know there can never be any reason for you to be damned....if Jesus died for your sins, what sins would remain that could ever cause you to go to Hell? The answer to that question is “ None”—- they are ALL under the Blood....
The Bible also says that if you are a Believer , you already HAVE Eternal Life and shall NEVER come under Condemnation... Did you know that “ never “ means NEVER! “ THERE” is your Assurance -it’s God's Word —- in SPITE of your pitiful “ performance” that you think is impressing God ....

The Granddaddy Of them all is Rom.10:13 —— “ Anybody that ASKS to be Saved *WILL* be Saved......notice that it does NOT say that “ you have a CHANCE to be Saved if your behavior is up to snuff...” All YOU have to do us ask....then the onus is on God to keep His Word...and He can handle it...

Be wise ....live the most Obedient life that you can....God will bless you for it...He just won’t Save you for it .....Salvation comes from two things — Christ’s Blood and Your Faith in that Blood....The Bible speaks of the “ obedience of the Gospel”......Without “ That” Obedience, your best Obedience got you Nothing as far as Salvation is concerned....

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Assurance comes from actually Believing that God will keep His Word.

Okay, so how does a person know they actually believe God?

The Bible also says that if you are a Believer , you already HAVE Eternal Life and shall NEVER come under Condemnation... Did you know that “ never “ means NEVER! “ THERE” is your Assurance -it’s God's Word

Okay, so how does a person know they are a believer that already has eternal life and shall never come under condemnation?

in SPITE of your pitiful “ performance” that you think is impressing God .

It's the work of God in you that is pleasing to God. Don't pooh-pooh the performance that God has wrought in a person. Perhaps this is the mistake you have been making for 60 years...instantly thinking that a person's righteous work can only be their own "pitiful performance" and them trying to save themselves, and so you judge and condemn them as a works salvationist.

Rom.10:13 —— “ Anybody that ASKS to be Saved *WILL* be Saved......notice that it does NOT say that “ you have a CHANCE to be Saved if your behavior is up to snuff...”

No, that's not the argument, lol. The argument is your behavior shows if you are saved.

Be wise ....live the most Obedient life that you can....God will bless you for it...He just won’t Save you for it .

You won't earn salvation by living an obedient life. The obedient life shows that you are saved. That's why the Bible tells us to strive to add the qualities of the Spirit to our faith so we can make our calling and election sure.

 

[ScottA]

There seems to be more than one thread going on this topic.

Question for those who do not believe in Once Saved Always Saved:

If what you have received is not forever, what did you receive? What spirit is not forever?​

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

You are straining at a gnat while swallowing a camel. This is what I mean. You are going on and on endlessly over the dangers of the child of God ceasing to have faith in the Father, while discounting the power of God Who maintains that faith in us.

Much love!

This ridiculously flawed logic of yours' as God must have failed to maintain the faith in the people who became apostates over the course of the last 2 millennia then.

Then there's no such thing as a fake believer. Obviously, an unbeliever can utter the words "Jesus is Lord". That's what makes them fake; they have a profession of faith, but no change of life to match their profession of faith. So, obviously, Paul meant something other than what you say he meant in 1 Corinthians 12:3.

Jesus consistently warned against fake believers throughout His ministry(Matt. 24:4-5, Mar. 7:6, and Luk. 6:46, 49, etc.). Paul went so far to write in 2 Corinthians that it is 100% possible for someone to be a fake believer because they believe in a counterfeit Jesus. The fact that Catholic and Protestant groups contradict the Bible with unbiblical doctrines and traditions is concrete proof that there is definitely a such a thing as a fake believer.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Okay, so how does a person know they actually believe God?

A person rests.....he rests in Paul’s Gospel Of Pure Grace , knowing that his Salvation is secure.....Secure because he understands that the Gospel That Saves Him is based NOT on what he does for God.....it’s based on what God has done for man......He rests because he knows that Blood Of Jesus covers ALL of his sins..... His life is full of gratitude and joy.....that Giant Weight Of “ Trying to make Himself Worthy” has been cast off once he realizes that he is * MADE* Worthy by the Blood Of The Lamb....

If you ain’t Resting you are Working....if you are Working, you aren’t Believing...

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Okay, so how does a person know they are a believer that already has eternal life and shall never come under condemnation?


Because it’s a Promise and if I ever ‘ come under Condemnation” , that would make God a Liar and that ain’t gonna happen—— “ it is impossible for God to lie “

 

[BloodBought 1953]

It's the work of God in you that is pleasing to God. Don't pooh-pooh the performance that God has wrought in a person. Perhaps this is the mistake you have been making for 60 years...instantly thinking that a person's righteous work can only be their own "pitiful performance" and them trying to save themselves, and so you judge and condemn them as a works salvationist.


When I refer to a “ pitiful performance” , I am not talking about God and His Holy Spirit Working “ Through” you—— that is the ultimate goal for any Christian.I am talking about any “ performance” that is taking place in a delusional attempt to GET Saved or STAY Saved....some posters on here claim to haven risen above sin....they think they are perfect.....only Jesus is perfect and any person that thinks that they have the ability to match His performance and become “ good enough” to merit Heaven is Seriously deluded—- “ They”, AND their attempts to be Worthy Of Heaven are both pitiful.....We are * MADE WORTHY * by the Blood Of The Lamb—- * IF* we put our complete Faith in Jesus Plus Nothing to Save us....That “ nothing” especially pertains to performances played out to show how “ good” we are—- God considers them “filthy rags”......worse than pitiful in His eyes....I just happen to agree...

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Okay, so how does a person know they actually believe God?


Okay, so how does a person know they are a believer that already has eternal life and shall never come under condemnation?


It's the work of God in you that is pleasing to God. Don't pooh-pooh the performance that God has wrought in a person. Perhaps this is the mistake you have been making for 60 years...instantly thinking that a person's righteous work can only be their own "pitiful performance" and them trying to save themselves, and so you judge and condemn them as a works salvationist.


No, that's not the argument, lol. The argument is your behavior shows if you are saved.


You won't earn salvation by living an obedient life. The obedient life shows that you are saved. That's why the Bible tells us to strive to add the qualities of the Spirit to our faith so we can make our calling and election sure.

The “ Obedient Life” shows that one is Saved ? No ....Being able to say SINCERELY with your mouth that “ Jesus is Lord” shows that one is Saved.....Paul says that one can’t say that and mean it unless they have the Holy Spirit within them....you, on the other hand, insist that it is Obedience that proves a person is Saved, so Paul must have been having an “ off day” when he penned what I quoted....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You won't earn salvation by living an obedient life. The obedient life shows that you are saved. That's why the Bible tells us to strive to add the qualities of the Spirit to our faith so we can make our calling and election sure.



This is tantamount to saying that we are Saved by Works—— that “ Work” being certain that we Add the “ qualities of the Spirit”....You consistency confuse Salvation with Sanctification....Salvation was a “ GIFT” , remember ?.....you don’t “ work for” or try to “ earn” a Gift.....you turn our Gift into a “ Deal”—— You do this ( constantly improve your morality ) , and then I will do that....totally Unbiblical....

 

[Ferris Bueller]

When I refer to a “ pitiful performance” , I am not talking about God and His Holy Spirit Working “ Through” you—— that is the ultimate goal for any Christian.I am talking about any “ performance” that is taking place in a delusional attempt to GET Saved or STAY Saved.

How do you know that? You're just being the same judgmental person that you say they are being to you in your not so stellar performance.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

some posters on here claim to haven risen above sin....they think they are perfect.....only Jesus is perfect and any person that thinks that they have the ability to match His performance and become “ good enough” to merit Heaven is Seriously deluded

I think you've got a serious problem of judging others. You should just leave people alone for whom 1 Peter 4:1 is a reality. You have to stop projecting your experience of 'having thoughts that would shame hell', as you put it, onto others who don't. I know I don't have those. I'd be lying if I caved into your insistence that we all have to admit that we're living in horrible sin everyday. I for one have never had a substance or sexual addiction, so it's been naturally just easier for me to grow and mature in Christ. I don't think it right that those who've had different circumstances and a harder time in life insist that others who haven't have a harder time have to have that harder time, too. You should really just leave them alone in their spiritual success, just as you want them to leave you alone in your spiritual distress and for them to stop judging you. It's that 'do unto others' thing. If you were spiritually successful would you want them to do to you what you are doing to them?

And as far as spiritually successful people thinking they are "good enough to merit heaven", I'm confident that's not what their testimony about being set free from sin is about. They know salvation is not earned. The vast majority of us know that. But even if that's what they're thinking leave that for God to sort out with them.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

* IF* we put our complete Faith in Jesus Plus Nothing to Save us....That “ nothing” especially pertains to performances played out to show how “ good” we are—- God considers them “filthy rags”.

Do you honestly think that's what Peter is saying here? ↓↓↓

"5For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith virtue; and to virtue, knowledge; 6and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. 8For if you possess these qualities and continue to grow in them, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9But whoever lacks these traits is nearsighted to the point of blindness, having forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins.10Therefore, brothers, strive to make your calling and election sure." 2 Peter 1:5-10
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Look me right in the cyber-eye and tell me Peter is telling us to add the filthy rags of our own performance to our faith in Christ to show how good we are and to earn salvation.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The “ Obedient Life” shows that one is Saved ? No ....Being able to say SINCERELY with your mouth that “ Jesus is Lord” shows that one is Saved.....Paul says that one can’t say that and mean it unless they have the Holy Spirit within them....you, on the other hand, insist that it is Obedience that proves a person is Saved, so Paul must have been having an “ off day” when he penned what I quoted....

Paul must have been having an off day when he penned this (as always, just read the emboldened parts if you don't want to read the whole thing)...

"14Do everything without complaining or arguing, 15so that you may be blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and perverse generation,b in which you shine as lights in the world 16as you hold forth the word of life, in order that I may boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor in vain." Philippians 2:14-16
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Paul, whom you say you follow, says their blameless and pure lives is what shows that he did not labor in vain among them. How they live shows if he was successful in leading them to Christ, not their lip service. (And, of course, this means he will receive a reward for his successful labor among them, per 1 Corinthians 3:8-15.)

 

[Ferris Bueller]

You won't earn salvation by living an obedient life. The obedient life shows that you are saved. That's why the Bible tells us to strive to add the qualities of the Spirit to our faith so we can make our calling and election sure.



This is tantamount to saying that we are Saved by Works—— that “ Work” being certain that we Add the “ qualities of the Spirit”....You consistency confuse Salvation with Sanctification....Salvation was a “ GIFT” , remember ?.....you don’t “ work for” or try to “ earn” a Gift.....you turn our Gift into a “ Deal”—— You do this ( constantly improve your morality ) , and then I will do that....totally Unbiblical....

The 'constant improvement of your morality' is just the sign that you are a believer and are saved. That's why it is useful towards 'making your calling and election sure' as Peter says. The ever-increasing qualities of the Spirit do not earn you salvation, they show that you believe and are saved and ready to meet Christ when he returns. The absence of them shows that you have fallen away from the word of the gospel:

"9But whoever lacks these traits is nearsighted to the point of blindness, having forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins." 2 Peter 1:9​

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes. The people who Paul says get burned up at the judgement in 1 Corinthians 3:8-15 are not believers. They are fake. They aren't made of the 'stuff' that can and will withstand the coming fires of judgment. That's why the laborer in Gods building should be careful how he builds. There's no reward waiting for laborers in God's building who have added fake believers to the building of God who will only get burned up in the judgment because they are fake. He's pointing this out to the Corinthians to show them he has nothing to gain by giving them a false gospel - a gospel of an un-risen savior as the other so-called 'apostles' are doing leaving them unprepared to face the coming judgment.

In regards to the parable of the building,
and it's materials in 1 Corinthians 3:

Paul says before the parable, "you are God's building."
So we are the materials that make up the building.

Many believers today have an erroneous idea of what represents the gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, and stubble (stubble = stumps of wheat or other related grain crops left on the ground). Most believers fail to realize that the work is not referring to just any kind of general actions of a believer like good fruit (any kind of good fruit) and evil fruit (sin). The work is referring to those believers we bring to the faith and their eternal status with God (i.e. what kind of building materials are they made up of). The Parable is talking about Paul's work (Which is the Corinthians in this instance).

I believe Paul and the other apostles are a part of the foundation with Christ being the chief cornerstone or the ultimate baseline foundation (Ephesians 2:20), and that Paul's work in the gospel are the result of the Corinthians being initially saved by the gospel. However, Paul is now concerned that his labor in the gospel (concerning them) is now in vain because the Corinthians are now working the sins of strife and envying (Note: Paul condemns the sins of strife and envying when writing to the Galatians (Galatians 5:19-21). Paul says that they which do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God). In Galatians 4:11, Paul was concerned for the Galatians in that they were going back to the Old Law so as to be justified or saved. He was concerned that his labor for the gospel was in vain for the Galatians.

So the parable speaks of how his labor for the gospel (concerning the Corinthians) was now possibly in vain for them, too.

#1. The chief cornerstone foundation = Jesus Christ.
#2. Built as a part of the foundation on top of Christ = The apostles (including Paul, etc.) (Ephesians 2:20).
#3. The actual building materials of the tower or building = God's people (In this instance it would be the Corinthians).
#4. The Corinthians would be like: Wood, hay, and stubble in this particular point in time within their life while they abided in their sins of strife, and envying (Which are sins that will cause a person to not inherit the Kingdom of God).
Wood, hay, and stubble are not materials that could survive a fire.
#5. Paul (the soul winner, and builder of the gospel and builder upon the foundation of Jesus Christ) would be saved through the fire (despite his work - i.e. the Corinthians being his work) would be burned up because of their sins. For Paul then says that if any man defiles the temple, God will destroy them (Meaning: God will destroy the Corinthians if they do not repent of their sins). We are the temple of God. Our bodies are the temples of God. If we as believers defile our temples by sin, God will destroy us (i.e. condemn us).​

This is what I believe the parable is saying. The works of Paul that will be burned are the Corinthians if they do not repent of their sins of strife and envy (1 Corinthians 3:3). The Corinthians at this point in time are not saved and they will be burned up in the fire and destroyed by God if they don't seek forgiveness with the Lord and turn from their sins of strife and envy. Paul, the apostles, or the gospel preacher is the one who will be saved through fire if his work (the Corinthians) is burned up (on the account of their justifying sin). The parable is not talking about how a believer can sin and still be saved as long as they have a belief on Jesus. It's actually teaching the exact opposite of that. One cannot build sin as a work upon the foundation of Jesus Christ. Jesus did not advocate sin, and neither did He teach that a person can continue to sin and still be saved.

Yes, we are initially and foundationally saved by God's grace, but believers cannot justify sin, and they have to be fruitful for their Lord and live holy as a part of the Sanctification Process.
For Hebrews 12:14-15 says,

“14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness,
without which no man shall see the Lord:
15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;”
(Hebrews 12:14-15).

Sin can separate a believer from God unless they can confess and forsake such sins.
For he that confesses and forsakes sin shall have mercy (Proverbs 28:13) (Also see: 1 John 1:9, 1 John 2:1 and 1 John 1:7). This is why we are to strive to enter the straight gate. For we are told narrow is the way that leads unto life and FEW be there that find it. In other words, the narrow way is a lot more narrow than most Christians think these days. Most Christians think they can abide in sin and still be saved all because they have a belief alone in Jesus as their Savior. But they will be in for a rude awakening come judgment day.

Matthew 13:41-42 says,

“The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”​

This passage is saying that the Son of man (JESUS) will send forth His angels and they will gather out of HIS Kingdom them who do iniquity and they shall be cast into the furnace of fire. So anyone who works iniquity in Christ's Kingdom by saying they can abide in sin and still be saved (Which is a doctrine that works iniquity) they will unfortunately be cast into the Lake of Fire.

In other words, a believer can be in the Kingdom temporarily, but later be cast out at the Judgment because of their justifying sin in this life.

For Christ has to set His Kingdom in order before He hands His Kingdom over to God the Father. For it is written:

“Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.” (1 Corinthians 15:24).

 

[Misty Williams]

Unfortunately, as much as I wish it were the case, I don't believe in "once saved, always saved". The Bible gives examples of having your "name removed from the Lamb's Book of Life". You can also see evidence of this in Revelations Chapter 2 and 3 where churches are counselled by Christ, i.e.:

Rev 3:5-6
5 The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels. 6 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches (implying that someone can be blotted out).

Psalms 69:28
28 May they be blotted out of the book of life And may they not be recorded with the righteous.

That said, I think a lot of people who don't find themselves where they think they'll be may have never been saved to begin with. Many folks "get saved", show up at church, but live like the devil the rest of the time. There's no transformation in their life, they aren't bearing fruit. Anyone interested should listen to our podcast on "How to Know You Are Prepared for Jesus' Coming". God bless!

 

[Enoch111]

Unfortunately, as much as I wish it were the case, I don't believe in "once saved, always saved".

Well that is indeed unfortunate. But those who understand that "Salvation is of the LORD" have absolutely no problem with believing in the eternal security of the believer. If this were not true, then the finished work of Christ was "unfinished". So this is a matter of "rightly dividing" or properly interpreting verses which might suggest otherwise.

 

[Edward Rose]

Yes once saved always saved is true and Biblical.
Romans 10:9 If you believe in your heart that Jesus died for your sins and God raised him up on the 3rd day and confess it with your mouth then you are saved. Jesus said he gives us eternal life and that we shall never perish. He also said that the Father who gave them to me is greater than me and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. And Paul says that who shall seperate us from the love of Christ.

If retaining salvation depended on us then we all would lose it because we still sin in these flesh bodys. What's the requirement to lose salvation, it would have to be to sin after receiving it which we are all guilty of. I trust God 100% that He is capable of finishing the work He started in me.
AMEN and AMEN

 

[L.A.M.B.]

"... the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life ..." "... by grace are ye saved ..." Romans 6:23; Ephesians 2:8

Salvation from the death sentence is God’s gift, because God sent his own son to bear the death penalty for man. (John 3:16) But doesn’t salvation require the cooperation of the individual? Yes. For instance, the exercise of faith is essential. "... if we believe on him ... being justified by faith ..." "... the just shall live by faith." - - Romans 4:24; 5:10; Gal 3:11

The Apostle James shows that the sincerity of our faith must be demonstrated by our efforts at good works. This is why he says, "... by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." (James 2:24) This does not mean that God requires perfect works- - Paul shows that we are not capable of that. (Romans 3:20; 2:16, 3:11) But it does mean that we must try as much as possible to do those things that God would be pleased with. "Faith without works is dead." - - James 2:26

During this age God is not dealing with the world in general. He is preparing the Church class for a glorious reward. They are to be joined with Christ Jesus, and to share both his throne of dominion and his very nature- - the divine nature. (Acts 15:4; Room. 2:7) But before any will be raised to such a position of glory and honor, God wishes to see a character crystallized in earnest loyalty. Of Jesus it was written, "Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered ..." (Hebrews 5:8) Each of Christ’s followers are also to have their obedience proved. We are to search our minds and hearts to see that they are kept in a proper attitude of devotion. The Apostle John said: "Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward." - - 2 John 8

One inference of this counsel is that some will receive less than the full reward of divine nature. Some will be "overcharged with the cares of this life." Some will carelessly build with "wood, hay and stubble" rather than "gold, silver, and precious stones." (1 Corinthians 3:15) But if their hearts are loyal, God will still care for these. "If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:12) For some this will mean deliverance "unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus." - - 1 Corinthians 5:5

Some will fall. From other scriptures we learn that it is possible for some to come to a knowledge of the Lord, and then to willfully neglect the favor of God and become estranged from Him. To express and exercise faith in Him, and later to lose it. To receive a standing before God through faith in the blood of Jesus, and to fall. The vital, living and quickening faith of a believer can turn sour. Thus, the warning of Hebrews 10:38: "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him ..." Jesus said, "No man having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God." - - Luke 9:62

The condition of heart that would completely turn from God after having believed and received of the Holy Spirit, would make future repentance impossible. Read carefully Paul’s words in Hebrews 6:4- 6:

"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted of the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance ..." ​

The warning of Hebrews 10:29 is to those who have at one time been sanctified.

"Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?" ​

This condition, though infrequent, is nevertheless a real danger. What of such? The Apostle Peter, in chapter two of his second epistle, speaking of such a class, says: "... if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning." (2 Peter 2:20) These, he says, "have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam ... who loved the wages of unrighteousness." - - 2 Peter 2:15 Peter says that for them "the mist of darkness (the oblivion of death) is reserved for ever." (2 Peter 2:17) "... these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, ... shall utterly perish in their own corruption." - - 2 Peter 2:12

How can this be? Doesn’t Romans 8:35- 39 teach that nothing and nobody can "separate us from the love of God"? True, none of the distresses which he mentions there can separate us- - but we can separate ourselves by an attitude of faithlessness and carelessness leading to heart disloyalty and rebellion. Paul’s discussion is intended to be an assurance to all who will keep their hearts. Even the Apostle Paul himself said, "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." (1 Corinthians 9:27) See Romans 11:21.

In addition to these warnings, we have instruction to "Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Proverbs 4:23) And Paul speaks of those "... who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory, honor, and immortality. ..." (Romans 2:7) For, in the full sense, "He that endureth to the end shall be saved." - - Matthew 10:22; 24:13

Faithful unto death Jesus forewarned that the battle of a Christian would not be easy. The world will taunt and jeer. "If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?" (Matthew 10:25) "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake ..." (Matthew 10:22) From our own flesh will come difficult enticements of pride and lust. (Romns 7:18- 24) And Satan, as a "roaring lion" (1 Peter 5:8), will at every opportunity seek to make shipwreck of our faith.

Love for the Lord, and appreciation of the great price that secures our redemption, will inspire our devotion. Only such love will hold fast to the promise, "Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." (Revelation 2:10) BUT, "Hold fast that which thou hast, that no man take thy crown ..."- Revelation 3:11

Thank you for your on the MARK post !
I agree with it in whole, for the word says just that.
Glad to meet someone who fully understands salvation and the path we walk.

There is great danger in thinking it's all zipped up forever in a doctrine, I call false. The word is plain as you have quoted.
There will be NO EXCUSE if you take man's word over Gods!

Beware ppl, search the scriptures and examine yourself DAILY for when you think you stand take care lest you fall !

 

[farouk]

Yes once saved always saved is true and Biblical.
Romans 10:9 If you believe in your heart that Jesus died for your sins and God raised him up on the 3rd day and confess it with your mouth then you are saved. Jesus said he gives us eternal life and that we shall never perish. He also said that the Father who gave them to me is greater than me and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. And Paul says that who shall seperate us from the love of Christ.

If retaining salvation depended on us then we all would lose it because we still sin in these flesh bodys. What's the requirement to lose salvation, it would have to be to sin after receiving it which we are all guilty of. I trust God 100% that He is capable of finishing the work He started in me.
AMEN and AMEN

@Edward Rose I love Philippians 1.6: "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ". :)

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