Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

[CadyandZoe]

But, in order to be qualified to be part of "the resurrection of the just" one needs to be first resurrected from one's spiritual grave "in Christ." So, spiritual resurrection precedes physical resurrection. We are currently "in Christ."

Of course. On that point we all agree. Nonetheless, we're trying to clarify what John meant to say in Revelation 20:5. In other words, does John intend to specify WHY they came to life or is his intent to specify WHO came to life?

 

[CadyandZoe]

The very usage of “first” is used to simply distinguish between the raising of the dead in Christ at the second coming and the raising of the live in Christ, not between the resurrection of the righteous when Jesus comes and the raising of the wicked 1,000 years+ after Jesus comes.

On the contrary, In Revelation 20:4, John discusses the raising of the martyrs and those faithful in Christ, which takes place when thrones are set up. In Revelation 20:5, John points out that the rest of the dead did not come back to life after a thousand years. He clearly implies a second coming back to life. Verse 4 talks about a group dead coming back to life and verse 5 talks about the rest of the dead who come back to life a thousand years later.

The Premil "first resurrection" totally excludes all "the future millennial believers." After all, if the first resurrection is supposed to be the physical resurrection of believers at the Second Advent, and this is consequently the actual means by which one escapes the second death (eternal wrath), how can people be saved (and consequently avoid the second death) in a supposed future millennium?

The answer is simple—the Great White Throne judgment. The rest of the dead are judged then.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Question of the DAY

Why did the LORD only specify those who were beheaded in Revelation ch20?

He specified two groups in Revelation 20:4.
(Maybe I can color code them)

Revelation 20:4
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

 

[David in NJ]

He specified two groups in Revelation 20:4.
(Maybe I can color code them)

Revelation 20:4
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

OK

Do you think God is making groupings of who is part of the first resurrection as opposed to who is in Christ?

 

[David in NJ]

I suggested that @Spiritual Israel was forcing 1 Corinthians 15:20 onto Revelation 20:5 to imply that John was talking about the "how" of the first resurrection rather than the "who" of the first resurrection.

This is the topic question: Does the Revelation 20:5 passage aim to specify the basis for the first resurrection—which we all agree is the death, burial, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ—or does it focus on who will be resurrected?

The A-millennial interpretation of Revelation 20:5 suggests that John is indicating that anyone who participates in the resurrection of Jesus, which is considered the first resurrection, will not experience the second death. In contrast, the Pre-millennial interpretation of Revelation 20:5 interprets John's message as referring to those who are part of the first group of humanity to be resurrected, indicating they too will not suffer the second death.

To summarize:
Possible meanings of "first resurrection."

1. The resurrection of Jesus Christ.
2. The group of people who are raised first.

Why does this matter? Would Premillennialism deny that the first group was raised because of Jesus Christ's resurrection? No, they would agree that Jesus Christ is the basis on which the first group is saved. Nevertheless, how we decide what John is actually saying depends on the context of the passage. In my view, we must allow John to define what he means by "first resurrection", which he does. And he isn't talking about the resurrection of Jesus Christ as such, he is talking about the subset of humanity who are first raised, specifically, those who have remained faithful to Jesus Christ.


I believe the pre-mil interpretation because I allow John to define what he means by "first resurrection" in the context of the passage.

The clear irrefutable scripture(s) in Post #595 validate who is the First Resurrection as well as all who will part of that First Resurrection.

 

[rwb]

So when Jesus came, He found that he had already been in the tomb four days. Now Bethany was near Jerusalem, about two miles away. And many of the Jews had joined the women around Martha and Mary, to comfort them concerning their brother.

Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met Him, but Mary was sitting in the house.
Now Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.
But even now I know that whatever You ask of God, God will give You.”

Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”

Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

CHRIST is the First Resurrection
CHRIST is the Firstfruits
CHRIST is the FIRST and the LAST

There is only one First Resurrection and it RESIDES in the LORD Jesus Christ.

Pay attention to the word 'in'

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.
And the dead in Christ will rise first.
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
Therefore comfort one another with these words.

Why will the dead in Christ rise first? Is it not because we have already partaken of the first resurrection through the resurrection life of Christ, i.e. been born again, before physical death? That we might be accounted worthy to also be of the first physical resurrection to immortality? This is what the literal resurrection of Lazarus is all about. He was DEAD, but Christ raised his MORTAL body from the grave, STILL MORTAL to prove that He is THE RESURRECTION and the life that Lazarus had already partaken of through faith before he died.

After the DEAD IN CHRIST have been physically resurrected from the graves, saints still alive at His Second Coming shall also be changed from mortal to immortal WITH the DEAD IN CHRIST, to meet the Lord in the air, including the deceased Lazarus, changed to immortal. This event does not precede one thousand more years of time for this earth. Scripture is crystal clear what follows is utter destruction of this earth and every living thing on it by the fire that shall come down from God out of heaven.

 

[David in NJ]

Why will the dead in Christ rise first? Is it not because we have already partaken of the first resurrection through the resurrection life of Christ, i.e. been born again, before physical death? That we might be accounted worthy to also be of the first physical resurrection to immortality? This is what the literal resurrection of Lazarus is all about. He was DEAD, but Christ raised his MORTAL body from the grave, STILL MORTAL to prove that He is THE RESURRECTION and the life that Lazarus had already partaken of through faith before he died.

After the DEAD IN CHRIST have been physically resurrected from the graves, saints still alive at His Second Coming shall also be changed from mortal to immortal WITH the DEAD IN CHRIST, to meet the Lord in the air, including the deceased Lazarus, changed to immortal.

ABSOLUTE TRUTH - you will NEVER see or hear me argue against TRUTH = especially such as you stated above

This event does not precede one thousand more years of time for this earth.

And this is where you fall off the Cliff..............by rejecting the Literal words of the WORD beginning in Genesis that Ends in Revelation.

This is how a 'denomination is formed' = always by error and it can be just a seemingly harmless one!

Amillinialism, controls by rejecting the very simple and clear words of God in Genesis the Prophets and Revelation.

God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established TIME in the Beginning = GENESIS
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established that TIME for us is 24/7.
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established that CHRIST will Rule on Earth in that 24/7 TIME that HE Created for a literal 1,000 years.
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established that in the FIRST Resurrection, His Saints who Overcame will Rule with CHRIST for 1,000 Years
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established that AFTER the literal 1,000 Years have EXPIRED, the 2nd resurrection and the GWTJ
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established only those of the FIRST Resurrection escape the 2nd Death Judgment, which is after 1,000 Years
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established only AFTER all this takes place will the NEW Heavens and the NEW Earth be Created.

Unless you become like a little child you cannot SEE what the FATHER said for His Children.

Just like pre-fib rapture, you are rejecting what God clearly said and interjecting what HE never said.

.

 

[rwb]

And this is where you fall off the Cliff..............by rejecting the Literal words of the WORD beginning in Genesis that Ends in Revelation.

Sorry David, but you seem to be the one not falling off the cliff, but tenaciously clinging to the highest peak that must be depriving you of oxygen needed to think!

The literal words make no mention of the martyred saints being bodily resurrected to life AGAIN to live and reign with Christ for one thousand years, then apparently to be martyred for their faith??? Who knows when they shall be martyred? Will it be before they physically die according to your opinion, or will it be during this time of one thousand years where there is supposed to be total peace and harmony without death in this world???

When we carefully read the literal words in this verse, we find that John saw (whether by sight or faith is not important) or was given to understand that faithful saints are STILL ALIVE even though they have been physically martyred. He tells us they are still alive (souls) because they kept the faith of Christ to the end, and gave up their mortal lives rather than to turn away from Him. When were these mortal saints the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God? During this period of TIME that John writes "a thousand years." That's what John says, "they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

Revelation 20:4 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Your very confused doctrine tells us that they were bodily resurrected to life again, and then they lived and reigned with Christ for literally ONE thousand years, even though John does not write ONE thousand years, but rather he symbolically writes a/the thousand years, which is indeterminate amount of TIME.

Unless you become like a little child you cannot SEE what the FATHER said for His Children.

Take your own advise! Give up your pride and submit yourself to what the text literally says! Because it is your unbiblical doctrine that is making you appear to be an unlearned student of the Word of God! Become MATURE and put away these childish doctrines and embrace the LITERAL Word of God and stop adding your unlearned opinions trying to force your unbiblical doctrine.

1 Corinthians 13:11 (KJV) When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

 

[David in NJ]

Sorry David, but you seem to be the one not falling off the cliff, but tenaciously clinging to the highest peak that must be depriving you of oxygen needed to think!

The literal words make no mention of the martyred saints being bodily resurrected to life AGAIN to live and reign with Christ for one thousand years, then apparently to be martyred for their faith??? Who knows when they shall be martyred? Will it be before they physically die according to your opinion, or will it be during this time of one thousand years where there is supposed to be total peace and harmony without death in this world???

When we carefully read the literal words in this verse, we find that John saw (whether by sight or faith is not important) or was given to understand that faithful saints are STILL ALIVE even though they have been physically martyred. He tells us they are still alive (souls) because they kept the faith of Christ to the end, and gave up their mortal lives rather than to turn away from Him. When were these mortal saints the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God? During this period of TIME that John writes "a thousand years." That's what John says, "the lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

Revelation 20:4 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Your very confused doctrine tells us that they were bodily resurrected to life again, and then they lived and reigned with Christ for literally ONE thousand years, even though John does not write ONE thousand years, but rather he symbolically writes a/the thousand years, which is indeterminate amount of TIME.


Take your own advise! Give up your pride and submit yourself to what the text literally says! Because it is your unbiblical doctrine that is making you appear to be an unlearned student of the Word of God! Become MATURE and put away these childish doctrines and embrace the LITERAL Word of God and stop adding your unlearned opinions trying to force your unbiblical doctrine.

1 Corinthians 13:11 (KJV) When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

All you did on this post of yours is insult your own God given intelligence by making things up just as the pre-fibbers do.

Even worse, you seek to change the literal with man-made teaching that opposes CLEAR scripture to support a false-hood.

Amil is denying CHRIST at His Literal word:
Literal Second Coming
Literal bodily Resurrection of the Just
Literal TIME as Created by GOD
Literal First Resurrection(at His Second Coming) including the Literal Martyrs who receive Literal Glorified Bodies
Literal Return of CHRIST to the Literal earth that we are on now and will be for.............
Literal 1,000 Year Years with CHRIST in Literal Glorified Bodies
Literal 2nd resurrection AFTER the Literal 1,000 Years have expired
Literal Second Death which is the Lake of Fire

 

[rwb]

All you did on this post of yours is insult your own God given intelligence by making things up just as the pre-fibbers do.

It appears you are still too immature, and prideful to receive difficult biblical truths! Believe whatever your imagination deems appropriate!

 

[WPM]

ABSOLUTE TRUTH - you will NEVER see or hear me argue against TRUTH = especially such as you stated above



And this is where you fall off the Cliff..............by rejecting the Literal words of the WORD beginning in Genesis that Ends in Revelation.

This is how a 'denomination is formed' = always by error and it can be just a seemingly harmless one!

Amillinialism, controls by rejecting the very simple and clear words of God in Genesis the Prophets and Revelation.

God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established TIME in the Beginning = GENESIS
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established that TIME for us is 24/7.
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established that CHRIST will Rule on Earth in that 24/7 TIME that HE Created for a literal 1,000 years.
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established that in the FIRST Resurrection, His Saints who Overcame will Rule with CHRIST for 1,000 Years
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established that AFTER the literal 1,000 Years have EXPIRED, the 2nd resurrection and the GWTJ
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established only those of the FIRST Resurrection escape the 2nd Death Judgment, which is after 1,000 Years
God FIRMLY and IRREFUTABLY established only AFTER all this takes place will the NEW Heavens and the NEW Earth be Created.

Unless you become like a little child you cannot SEE what the FATHER said for His Children.

Just like pre-fib rapture, you are rejecting what God clearly said and interjecting what HE never said.

The beast reigns with 10 kings for 1 hour in Revelation. Is that a literal 60 minutes?

 

[WPM]

All you did on this post of yours is insult your own God given intelligence by making things up just as the pre-fibbers do.

Even worse, you seek to change the literal with man-made teaching that opposes CLEAR scripture to support a false-hood.

Amil is denying CHRIST at His Literal word:
Literal Second Coming
Literal bodily Resurrection of the Just
Literal TIME as Created by GOD
Literal First Resurrection(at His Second Coming) including the Literal Martyrs who receive Literal Glorified Bodies
Literal Return of CHRIST to the Literal earth that we are on now and will be for.............
Literal 1,000 Year Years with CHRIST in Literal Glorified Bodies
Literal 2nd resurrection AFTER the Literal 1,000 Years have expired
Literal Second Death which is the Lake of Fire

Do you believe in the important interpretive principle of corroboration?

 

[David in NJ]

Do you believe in the important interpretive principle of corroboration?

ABSOLUTELY

God established corroborative TRUTH

Watch how HE does this = John 17:16-19

They are not of the world, = corroborates = just as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them by Your truth. = corroborates = Your word is truth.
As You sent Me into the world, = corroborates = I also have sent them into the world.
And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, = corroborates = that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

Genesis 5:5 - So all the days(24/7) that Adam lived were 930 years(365 day year), and he died.
Daniel 9:24 -
“Seventy(70) weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.

1 Corinthians chapter 15 CORROBORATES a Literal 1,000 Years

God says "Adam lived a LITERAL Physical, on earth, 930 Literal Years / 24 hour days."

That is 70 Years short of 1,000 LITERAL Years which God had originally intended for Adam to live.

The Promise of the FATHER for us to live a Literal 1,000 Years is Fulfilled in CHRIST at His Second Coming for all the Saints.

CHRIST is the missing 70 Years that the first Adam failed to reach because of sin.

CHRIST, who is the Second Adam is a Life Giving Spirit because HE committed no sin, therefore Death could not keep Him in the Grave.

But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

 

[David in NJ]

@WPM Post 613 has been UPdated in TRUTH

 

[WPM]

ABSOLUTELY

God established corroborative TRUTH

Watch how HE does this = John 17:16-19

They are not of the world, = corroborates = just as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them by Your truth. = corroborates = Your word is truth.
As You sent Me into the world, = corroborates = I also have sent them into the world.
And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, = corroborates = that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

Genesis 5:5 - So all the days(24/7) that Adam lived were 930 years(365 day year), and he died.
Daniel 9:24 -
“Seventy(70) weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.

1 Corinthians chapter 15 CORROBORATES a Literal 1,000 Years

God says "Adam lived a LITERAL Physical, on earth, 930 Literal Years / 24 hour days."

That is 70 Years short of 1,000 LITERAL Years which God had originally intended for Adam to live.

The Promise of the FATHER for us to live a Literal 1,000 Years is Fulfilled in CHRIST at His Second Coming for all the Saints.

CHRIST is the missing 70 Years that the first Adam failed to reach because of sin.

CHRIST, who is the Second Adam is a Life Giving Spirit because HE committed no sin, therefore Death could not keep Him in the Grave.

But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

OK. I just wanted a simple answer, not a speech.

Do you believe that Scripture supports Scripture on all the main tenets/truths?

 

[WPM]

ABSOLUTELY

God established corroborative TRUTH

Watch how HE does this = John 17:16-19

They are not of the world, = corroborates = just as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them by Your truth. = corroborates = Your word is truth.
As You sent Me into the world, = corroborates = I also have sent them into the world.
And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, = corroborates = that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

Genesis 5:5 - So all the days(24/7) that Adam lived were 930 years(365 day year), and he died.
Daniel 9:24 -
“Seventy(70) weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.

1 Corinthians chapter 15 CORROBORATES a Literal 1,000 Years

God says "Adam lived a LITERAL Physical, on earth, 930 Literal Years / 24 hour days."

That is 70 Years short of 1,000 LITERAL Years which God had originally intended for Adam to live.

The Promise of the FATHER for us to live a Literal 1,000 Years is Fulfilled in CHRIST at His Second Coming for all the Saints.

CHRIST is the missing 70 Years that the first Adam failed to reach because of sin.

CHRIST, who is the Second Adam is a Life Giving Spirit because HE committed no sin, therefore Death could not keep Him in the Grave.

But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Where in Scripture does it teach that "God had originally intended for Adam to live" for "1,000 LITERAL Years"?

 

[WPM]

ABSOLUTELY

God established corroborative TRUTH

Watch how HE does this = John 17:16-19

They are not of the world, = corroborates = just as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them by Your truth. = corroborates = Your word is truth.
As You sent Me into the world, = corroborates = I also have sent them into the world.
And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, = corroborates = that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

Genesis 5:5 - So all the days(24/7) that Adam lived were 930 years(365 day year), and he died.
Daniel 9:24 -
“Seventy(70) weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.

1 Corinthians chapter 15 CORROBORATES a Literal 1,000 Years

God says "Adam lived a LITERAL Physical, on earth, 930 Literal Years / 24 hour days."

That is 70 Years short of 1,000 LITERAL Years which God had originally intended for Adam to live.

The Promise of the FATHER for us to live a Literal 1,000 Years is Fulfilled in CHRIST at His Second Coming for all the Saints.

CHRIST is the missing 70 Years that the first Adam failed to reach because of sin.

CHRIST, who is the Second Adam is a Life Giving Spirit because HE committed no sin, therefore Death could not keep Him in the Grave.

But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

The beast reigns with 10 kings for 1 hour in Revelation. Is that a literal 60 minutes?

 

[WPM]

All you did on this post of yours is insult your own God given intelligence by making things up just as the pre-fibbers do.

Even worse, you seek to change the literal with man-made teaching that opposes CLEAR scripture to support a false-hood.

Amil is denying CHRIST at His Literal word:
Literal Second Coming
Literal bodily Resurrection of the Just
Literal TIME as Created by GOD
Literal First Resurrection(at His Second Coming) including the Literal Martyrs who receive Literal Glorified Bodies
Literal Return of CHRIST to the Literal earth that we are on now and will be for.............
Literal 1,000 Year Years with CHRIST in Literal Glorified Bodies
Literal 2nd resurrection AFTER the Literal 1,000 Years have expired
Literal Second Death which is the Lake of Fire

You are not talking to Prefibbers now so cut off the trash-talking. It is time to support what you allege, instead of making wild unsubstantiated claims. If you want to engage with Bible-believing Christians that go by the Book, cut out the nonsense and be respectful.

When did he deny a literal second coming, a literal bodily resurrection of the just, literal time as created by God, a literal first resurrection, including the literal martyrs who receive literal glorified bodies, a literal return of Christ to the literal earth that we are on now and will be for, a literal second death which is the lake of fire?

You are not going to get away with spurning lies, ad hominem, and misrepresentations with Amils, so grow up. If you allege anything you will be asked to cough up or shut up.

 

[David in NJ]

OK. I just wanted a simple answer, not a speech.

Do you believe that Scripture supports Scripture on all the main tenets/truths?

Speeches begin at $5,000

 

[David in NJ]

Where in Scripture does it teach that "God had originally intended for Adam to live" for "1,000 LITERAL Years"?

Genesis and Revelation

You were given the clear irrefutable scriptures on this.