No more slave to sin

[Dash RipRock]

But I don't worry about it

Apparently you do

let's not get confused about your ability to reform yourself.

Let's no let what God says in His Word get in the we of what we believe
2 Timothy 2:19 - the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

will it be useful to hate sin?

Proverbs 8:13
The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogance, and the evil way

He was not "born again"

The scripture does say he was the first born from the dead - Colossians 1:18 and Revelation 1:5

Jesus said Himself on the Cross that the Father had forsaken Him which was done for our sin (Jesus never sinned)

This means Jesus was separated from the Father to pay for our sins, the wages of sin is death which is much more than dying physically, it is being separated from God as there is no darkness in God.

Jesus tasted of death (separation from God) for every man - Hebrews 2:9, as He was our substitute

So He was separated from God for us, and had to be brought back from being separated from God

This is also why God's Word says He was justified in the Spirit - 1 Timothy 3:16

 

[Ritajanice]

A Born Again is no more a slave to sin they are a slave to righteousness. @Behold .

◄ Romans 6:18 ►

Audio Cross Study Comm Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. New Living Translation Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living. English Standard Version and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. Berean Standard Bible You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness

 

[Behold]

Apparently you do

Guess again.

21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto

Notice that is the Man doing it for himself., so, your verse is not talking about eternal Salvaiton @Dash RipRock

See, Salvation is not man doing it for Himself. Its Jesus on The Cross doing it for Mankind.

Take a look at John 3:16.....for the update.

Proverbs 8:13
The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogance, and the evil way

And the Grace of God leads us to repentance.

The scripture does say he was the first born from the dead - Colossians 1:18 and Revelation 1:5

""""First born from the Dead.""""""

= First one to be RESURRECTED. = Jesus

And very soon, both the '""""DEAD IN CHRIST and those who are alive unto Christ's coming".... shall be the same.

= Welcome to the RAPTURE of the Church.

Jesus said Himself on the Cross that the Father had forsaken Him which was done for our sin (Jesus never sinned)

A sinner has sin In Them.

Christ on THE Cross, was sinless, because He has no sin IN HIM.

OUR sins, were laid ON Him, and His Body and Blood were sacrificed for our sins.

This is also why God's Word says He was justified in the Spirit - 1 Timothy 3:16

Jesus was justified in the Spirit, because there was no sin found in Him.

CHRISTians have sin in them, and are "justified by FAITH" because this is based on Jesus's sinless sacrifice = for them.

 

[marks]

Apparently you do

I simply prefer at times to your attention to your idle words, that add nothing to either the discussion or our discourse.

It's an opportunity for you to consider yourself, and become more self aware. If you benefit, that's good, and it will have been your choice to either receive this, or ignore it.

Much love!

 

[lforrest]

so, Jesus was born through water and the Holy Spirit? He came to John and received The Holy Spirit.

I believe Jesus was born with the Holy Spirit. Jesus was baptized not for the forgiveness of sins because he had none. Rather It was necessary to fulfill this rite to make him a priest. As all priests took a ceremonial dip.

 

[Behold]

I believe Jesus was born with the Holy Spirit.

Its even better....

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Now the Lord IS the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

New Living Translation
For the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

English Standard Version
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Berean Standard Bible
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Berean Literal Bible
Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

King James Bible
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

 

[Ritajanice]

I simply prefer at times to your attention to your idle words, that add nothing to either the discussion or our discourse.

It's an opportunity for you to consider yourself, and become more self aware. If you benefit, that's good, and it will have been your choice to either receive this, or ignore it.

Much love!

That’s a good reminder , if he doesn’t receive it I did...that darn ego and pride of mine, rises up in me....I’m starting to understand why certain members trigger something in me.....as I’m sure I could be triggering something in them,,when I open my mouth...if that makes sense...

It’s strange there is some that I can receive correction from..yet some others..no way...

God is very patient with me and he knows my heart wants to please him...

I very nearly stirred the pot more , when you reminded that member...it was like God said to me....you said enough last night, so don’t say anymore..keep your nose out...

 

[Dash RipRock]

I simply prefer at times to your attention to your idle words, that add nothing to either the discussion or our discourse.

Yeah I run across lots of folks that don't want to hear what God says in His Word

Par for course in the end times.

Notice that is the Man doing it for himself., so, your verse is not talking about eternal Salvaiton @Dash RipRock

See, Salvation is not man doing it for Himself. Its Jesus on The Cross doing it for Mankind.

Take a look at John 3:16.....for the update.

Reject what God's Word says if you want.

That's quite fashionable these days

And the Grace of God leads us to repentance.

He's the two verse the New Testament says that brings people to repentance.

Romans 2:4 - Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

2 Corinthians 7:10 - For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

Godly sorrow is the stronger of the 2 references since it leads to "repentance to salvation not to be repented of"

 

[marks]

...I’m starting to understand why certain members trigger something in me.....as I’m sure I could be triggering something in them,,when I open my mouth...if that makes sense...

That makes very much sense, I can be the same way. That's why "let your gentleness be known by all." I know I can be my own worst enemy, and I have to be careful. Maybe sometimes more careful than I am!

Much love!

 

[Behold]

Yeah I run across lots of folks that don't want to hear what God says in His Word

Look in the mirror and you've found one @Dash RipRock

Romans 2:4 - Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

God's Goodness, that "leads to repentance'......happens to a sinner who realizes the Love of God as found as The Cross of Christ.

and also..

God's Goodness, leads a backslider, a "dead faith" Christian back to God's Love.

 

[marks]

Yeah I run across lots of folks that don't want to hear what God says in His Word

Par for course in the end times.

Yeah. That's not what I said. What is the purpose of replying but not responding? You've answered with a straw man. Are we to not have a sincere discussion, or do you merely want to set yourself against and over others?

Much love!

 

[Ritajanice]

That makes very much sense, I can be the same way. That's why "let your gentleness be known by all." I know I can be my own worst enemy, and I have to be careful. Maybe sometimes more careful than I am!

Much love!

Amen...well said.."you are self aware..I too am self aware...it’s just when certain people trigger me , then my pride and ego rise up.....it’s when I believe people talk down to me or come across as superior..that’s what triggers me....and I could come across the same way to them.

Being self aware or moderating oneself is a really good trait to have...not sure if that’s the right word @marks .

 

[Dash RipRock]

Look in the mirror and you've found one @Dash RipRock

Look in the mirror and you've found one @Behold

God's Goodness, that "leads to repentance'......happens to a sinner who realizes the Love of God as found as The Cross of Christ.

and also..

God's Goodness, leads a backslider, a "dead faith" Christian back to God's Love.

You conveniently ignored a critical portion of God's Word.

2 Corinthians 7:10
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

Godly sorrow is the stronger of the 2 references since it leads to "repentance to salvation not to be repented of"

You've answered with a straw man.

You've answered with a polyester man.

Your so called "sincere discussion" requires others to agree with all that you say instead of what God says in His Word.

And those that don't agree with all that you say you will label as being trolls

If you have such a problem with my posts then you should put me on ignore so you no longer see my posts

That way you can be happy once again.

 

[marks]

Amen...well said.."you are self aware..I too am self aware...it’s just when certain people trigger me , then my pride and ego rise up.....it’s when I believe people talk down to me or come across as superior..that’s what triggers me....and I could come across the same way to them.

Being self aware or moderating oneself is a really good trait to have...not sure if that’s the right word @marks .

The beauty of a forum like this is that we don't just blurt things out, and there it is. We have the opportunity to review our post, rewrite, or just delete and start over. There is never any excuse for poor speech!

Metacommunication, one of the definitions is to "talk about talking", how we speak, how we come across to others, how we can be more effective communicators.

There is an excellent tool called Reflective Listening, also known as Active listening, where you don't respond with any comments of your own, only, say back in your own words what you understand someone to be saying. And then they can tell you, yes, you understand, or, no, not quite, this bit, I mean such and such. And you repeat it back to them in your own words, and do this until they say, yes, you understand me.

And only then, once you have a confirmed understanding, respond.

Anyway, I find this medium to be good for me to practice communicating in a number of ways. I'd like to see some others take advantage of these same opportunities!

Much love!

 

[marks]

You've answered with a polyester man.

Your so called "sincere discussion" requires others to agree with all that you say instead of what God says in His Word.

And those that don't agree with all that you say you will label as being trolls

If you have such a problem with my posts then you should put me on ignore so you no longer see my posts

That way you can be happy once again.

A polyester man? OK. Whatever that means. A deflection of course.

I don't think you know me well enough to accurately predict my behavior though.

One who speaks as you do, I hope you can find the joy of the Lord, this is our strength, and enables us to minister no matter the reactions from others, without getting into the flesh. When you serve out of love for others, there is no need to "score points", or be disgruntled, or whatever. Just ministry out of heartfelt love, serving in the joy of the Lord.

The problem with getting into this kind of personalities thing like you've written above is that it's not about the Bible, or God, just personal thoughts formed from opinions and perceptions of others. What is the comparative value of that?

Much love!

 

[Dash RipRock]

A polyester man? OK. Whatever that means. A deflection of course.

So you can dish it out and get upset when others say things you disagree with, got it.

You did understand in life that not everyone is going to agree with you right?

It's OK, no need to get your feelings hurt just because someone does not agree with everything you say

I hope you can finally find happiness in life and learn that it's OK for others to disagree with you.

 

[marks]

Let's no let what God says in His Word get in the we of what we believe
2 Timothy 2:19 - the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

This is an excellent passage, and I'd like to ask you, when it says, purge himself from these, what is the "these" that the passage refers to? Where do we find another passage that speaks in a similar way? How does this relate towards how we are towards others?

Do we find something in 1 Corinthians 3?

Much love!

 

[Matthias]

will it be useful to hate sin?

It is essential to hate sin.

 

[Dash RipRock]

what is the "these" that the passage refers to?

The works of the flesh

Romans 8:13 - For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

 

[OreCove]

I did what Jesus suggested. I alined with the Holy Spirit, liberated from sins, and "drink life water". Isn't it enough? Why is there so many disagreements between christians? Why are you still digging to the Bible, if you already believe in God and Jesus? What are you all looking for? Is this important how you imagine relationship between God - Jesus - Holy Spirit?