new version of OSAS?

[Taken]

My friend i was the worst of the worst . HE sent grace , drew me to Christ and gave me a whole new heart .
I , like paul , was in the midst of my darkness , But then His grace appeared .

His grace changed my heart[/QUOTE

Actually, Because of His grace, and Because of your Heartful Confession of Belief, Gods Seed changed your natural spirit in your heart, to a born again spirit, Via Gods Seed.

and gave me whole new desires . And that same grace bids me to continue to remind with ALL the reminders
JESUS gave and the apostles gave . INCLUDING this reminder . FOR YE are made partakers of Christ ...

Yes, period.

IF you hold
the confidence firm to the END.

Disagree. There is NO requirement for you to try, work at, keep holding on to confidence "AFTER you were Converted".

Your Willing heartful Conversion, Gave God the Authority TO Save you and TO KEEP you Saved Forever, BY HIS POWER and HIS SEAL.
You Can NOT ever Again Stand (Sin ) Against God.

Paul knew .

Paul KNEW, as we are supposed to KNOW,
For a man, Hearing Gods WORD, God gives that man measures of FAITH (a gift). AND the Holy Spirit IS WITH a man Hearing Gods WORD.
^^^ THAT is a man WHO IS NOT SAVED, NOT CONVERTED, NOT BORN AGAIN....
^^^ THAT is a man WHO is experiencing SMALL FAITH, A few Blessings from God, and Tasting, ie SEEING a BIT of what it is like to HAVE Gods Holy Spirit WITH. THEM.

A converted man is NOT BEING WARNED to Continue IN JESUS....
A converted man has the Lord God Already WITH .... and IN them.

AND He warned them..

THEM; whom Jesus is WITH, (but not IN).

CONTINUE IN JESUS or ELSE

Yes, THEM who have not yet converted.

Jesus warned THEM TOO.
You never know what day one may bodily die....One must be alive in their flesh to become converted.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BloodBought 1953]

That is some scary stuff BB . Why would we ever HEED a satanist . JESUS , paul, jude , peter , james nor others would Ever
have said what you just said . IT goes to show what i have been saying all along . You dont sound a thing like the apostles .
You might be able to quoate the gospel RIGHT ON . But you dont sound a thing like they did . That should tell you something BB .
WHEN grace is that HYPER , ITS WRONG my friend . We must heed the SPIRIT , the TRUE GRACE OF GOD . NOT this hyper stuff
that men created which changed the church so that it no longer heeds dangers .

You ever hear the term, “ Tongue in Cheek?”.....Do you REALLY think that I am “ Pro Satan?”.... I used to have to spell everything out for our departed “ friend” Ferris Bueller .....are you like him?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I'm OUT... HAD enough of this for one day....

Wuss .

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I have no wish to talk to you. Hyper grace is wrong. It should be banned.
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I have no wish to talk to you. Hyper grace is wrong. It should be banned.
.

Finally, we AGREE ! Hyper- Grace “ should” be Banned! What you and I need ( along with all of the rest of the Sinners in here) is
* SUPER* HYPER GRACE! Can I get an “ Amen?!!!

As I said before .....You are a MUCH worse Sinner than you think you are.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Post# 3914


@Addy You left out these proceeding verses:

"…put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow." (Isaiah 1:16-17)

You must stop sinning to receive the benefits of your pet verse.

How did “ YOU” stop Sinning? I want these benefits....what is the “ secret” to your success ?Did you Double Down on the Law ? Paul said that all the “weak and useless” Law could do was “ cause sin to increase”.....He said it had NO POWER to do anything other than to show you that you could not keep it and it’s only real purpose was to lead you to Jesus

Again, we all want to receive the benefits of this Pet Verse....It would be a sin for you to be Stingy—- how do we “ stop sinning ?” Thanking you in advance.....

 

[Tong2020]

I just now prayed and thanked God for saving me and keeping me saved. Would you say Amen to that?

Or would you rather thank yourself for choosing Him and so was saved and for enduring and so you keep yourself saved?

Tong
R3791

 

[Cooper]

I don't teach hyper-grace. I teach salvation by grace through faith not works.

Your view of OSAS is wrong. Should you be banned?

I have no wish to hear any of it. I will put all of you on my ignore list, and possibly look for another forum, or maybe not even bother. I am sick to death of the way people ignore those scriptures that disprove what they are saying, cherry pick other scriptures and mangle everything up until it becomes unrecognisable. All the cults do it.
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[Michiah-Imla]

Post# 3945

How did “ YOU” stop Sinning?

By not fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind (Ephesians 2:3).

"By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned, By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true; As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed; As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things." (2 Corinthians 6:6-10)

 

[HisLife]

I have no wish to hear any of it. I will put all of you on my ignore list, and possibly look for another forum, or maybe not even bother. I am sick to death of the way people ignore those scriptures that disprove what they are saying, cherry pick other scriptures and mangle everything up until it becomes unrecognisable.

You could try and discuss scriptures for a change if you can you might learn something, instead of just been an accuser

 

[Cooper]

You could try and discuss scriptures for a change if you can you might learn something, instead of just been an accuser

Tried that. I showed you a pageful of scripture that showed both sides of the coin, and you totally ignored it. Your ears are closed.
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[HisLife]

Tried that.

Yea You showed you cant understand the basics, Then threw a tantrum and accusations instead, You boast of your works, so far your works are accuser, you could admit your wrong and repent, Believe in Jesus He is our only Hope

 

[HisLife]

I showed you a whole pageful of scriptures that showed both sides of the coin, and you totally ignored it. .

Lol you keep editing your posts after I reply....I showed the article you used proved you where wrong and you kinda went nuts

 

[Michiah-Imla]

I just now prayer and thanked God for saving me and keeping me saved. Would you say Amen to that?

Or would you rather thank yourself for choosing Him and so was saved and for enduring and so you keep yourself saved?

Tong
R3791

"But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord." (1 Corinthians 15:57-58)

We give thanks to God; of course!

And when you’re abounding in the work of the Lord you are in fact not committing sins!

When you meditate on the word night and day you are not committing sins!

When you are reading the precious holy word of God you are not committing sins!

When you have a mind to suffer wrongfully as Christ did you are not committing sins!

So when do you find the time to sin my friend?

 

[Cooper]

Yea You showed you cant understand the basics, Then threw a tantrum and accusations instead, You boast of your works, so far your works are accuser, you could admit your wrong and repent, Believe in Jesus He is our only Hope

There you are. There is no point talking to any of you.
.

 

[marks]

how do we “ stop sinning ?

Excellent question, And I'm am SO GLAD you asked!!

:)

Hebrews 7:19 KJV
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

We take hold of this better hope.

The Law made nothing perfect. What does make perfect? What is our hope? Hope = the expected end of our faith. Our hope is the resurrection, because Jesus said He will raise us from the dead, and we believe Jesus. We trust Him, and He promised resurrection, so we expect to be raised from the dead. But not only that.

1 John 3:1-3 KJV
1) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3) And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

When we see Him, we will be transformed to become just like Him.

Philippians 3:21 KJV
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Literally, "the body of our humiliation". Isn't that so true? Jesus is able to subdue literally EVERYTHING, and He is also able to subdue us. To promise us,

1 Corinthians 15:54 KJV
54) So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

3) And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

We trust in Jesus, that He will do as He said, and save us in every way shape and form, one could even say He saves us to the uttermost, ever living to make intercession for us, we trust in Him, and the more we trust Him, the more we enter into His life, putting our old life behind. The more we believe that we can do so, the more we put on the new man, finding in our new life the power from His Spirit in living for Him.

Notice also, it doesn't say, everyone who has this hope should purify himself, something like that, no. It says if we have that hope, we just do. Axiomatic. If one, then the other.

every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure

Romans 5:1-2 KJV
1) Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2) By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

We stand in His grace, His favor towards us in the forgiveness of our sins.

We know we are forgiven. We know we will be transformed fully to be as Jesus. I know the sin I may commit, the sin I maybe being tempted to commit right now, this sin, if committed - this work of the flesh - it will not rob me from God. Sin has been settled and I am free.

Romans 7 something, the motions of sin in my members, when are by the Law . . .

Law incites sin. As I'm tempted to sin, I reflect on the fact that I'm received and accepted by God regardless, because my reconciliation is in Jesus Christ, not myself. I reflect on the fact that God loves me with or without that sin, because that sin is in my flesh, and my flesh is condemned already, and I am the spirit child of God, there IS NO condemnation for me.

And as I reflect on these things, the deceptive power of that temptation ceases. I see it for what it is. The motions of sin in my members. The "you must/you mustn't" merely inflame the flesh, as it remains hostile to God, and Law increases sin.

But I am not hostile to God, and He is not hostile to me, and remembering these things, that I am in love, forgiven, free, opens my heart wide in faith to God, trusting in the efficacy of Jesus' offering upon the cross, and I stand in that grace overcoming, a clean conscience.

Much love!

 

[HisLife]

There you are. There is no point talking to any of you.
.

You could try instead of tantrums and accusations, But first you need think...we are not there yet

 

[marks]

I have no wish to hear any of it. I will put all of you on my ignore list, and possibly look for another forum, or maybe not even bother. I am sick to death of the way people ignore those scriptures that disprove what they are saying, cherry pick other scriptures and mangle everything up until it becomes unrecognisable. All the cults do it.
.

I felt that way several days ago for other reasons, I understand that. Maybe just a break from certain threads?

I need that sometimes.

Much love!

 

[Taken]

My friend i was the worst of the worst . HE sent grace , drew me to Christ and gave me a whole new heart .
I , like paul , was in the midst of my darkness , But then His grace appeared .

His grace changed my heart

Actually, Because of His grace, and Because of your Heartful Confession of Belief, Gods Seed changed your natural spirit in your heart, to a born again spirit, Via Gods Seed.

and gave me whole new desires . And that same grace bids me to continue to remind with ALL the reminders
JESUS gave and the apostles gave . INCLUDING this reminder . FOR YE are made partakers of Christ ...

Yes, period.

IF you hold
the confidence firm to the END.

Disagree. There is NO requirement for you to try, work at, keep holding on to confidence "AFTER you were Converted".

Your Willing heartful Conversion, Gave God the Authority TO Save you and TO KEEP you Saved Forever, BY HIS POWER and HIS SEAL.
You Can NOT ever Again Stand (Sin ) Against God.

Paul knew .

Paul KNEW, as we are supposed to KNOW,
For a man, Hearing Gods WORD, God gives that man measures of FAITH (a gift). AND the Holy Spirit IS WITH a man Hearing Gods WORD.
^^^ THAT is a man WHO IS NOT SAVED, NOT CONVERTED, NOT BORN AGAIN....
^^^ THAT is a man WHO is experiencing SMALL FAITH, A few Blessings from God, and Tasting, ie SEEING a BIT of what it is like to HAVE Gods Holy Spirit WITH THEM.

AND He warned them . CONTINUE IN JESUS or ELSE .

Yes, them who are Not saved.

Many have been sealed , but not with the SPIRIT

Not possible. God Seals them who He is "WITH AND IN".
Men may be fooled, But Following Gods Order and Way, IS assuredness. God IS faithful and true.

EITHER we are HIS or we are not HIS .

There is more to understand. If a man IS a Jew AND Under the Law, OR if any man IS a gentile and IN Jesus, OR if any man IS neither Under the Law, and Rejects Jesus, OR if any man Rejects God and Jesus....
There is no ONE Order and Way to fit all men.
* What happens to them AND WHEN is all dependant on Who an individual is and What he 'commits' to.
* I primarily speak of men who believe in God and Christ Jesus.
* But much of Scripture speaks ALSO to the others aforementioned.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[HisLife]

I felt that way several days ago for other reasons, I understand that. Maybe just a break from certain threads?

I need that sometimes.

Much love!

I think He needs the truth, A break won't fix His Belief

 

[marks]

I think He needs the truth, A break won't fix His Belief

Be nice.

:)