new version of OSAS?

[Eternally Grateful]

Knowing "how we are saved" is important, otherwise Jesus is left out. But knowing where people are coming from, l understand why they want to leave Jesus out.
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The discussion is OSAS

OSAS is about a saved person. Now how one is saved

however uses teaches it is through Christ we are saved. No one comes to the father but through me. It is salvation by grace through faith

but again OSAS is about a saved person not how one becomes saved

 

[Corlove13]

By saying God's Grace covers everything, you are making Jesus the condoner of wickedness.
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Many can not see it any different...
As said earlier...

Here is how many Evangelized like this see it:

Do you believe Jesus died for your sins and arose? Yes...if you have confessed this-you are saved...

But if you notice in scripture they believed Jesus as the Christ.
And then took on the Baptism that is saying they are willing to die to the flesh.../the old
And being reborn to the New

Dying to this world and being born into the kingdom Christ brought [symbolically] that just came to my spouse...

So the above in red comes over as:
Jesus did everything all you do is mentally believe He did it and you are saved.

So what happens then....reverse.....
If you do not believe He did it all you are not saved...

Therefore the Box

Now read Ephesian 2 from that box..

The issue is they have part of the Gospel, for the full Gospel is the Kingdom is at hand, and it is available to anyone who believes who God says Jesus is...not only through His announcement but all that God showed through Christ.

For in Acts at the end....a Face it put to the Kingdom...it is Jesus..

Another words they told you what was done by Him....so that you would Trust HIM..
THEREBY TRANSFERED INTO THE KINGDOM OF HIS DEAR SON..

Therefore one has to come alive First, Be born from above...this is the kick start..."life"

Here is a question to ourselves when did Jesus start His ministry? Was it after His Baptism and the Father's announcement?

Anyway ...Justification does not come before
regeneration...

First one is reconciled.

So...if one is reconciled First.[brought near to God by being born from above]....but Osas start with Justification...

Then everything read from scripture must fit into that.

Foundation is so so important !

Therefore Trust Jesus in your actual life as Lord.....

The truth really will set you free [those under OSAS evangelism]

 

[marks]

A ten year old could “ get it” .....of course, they can’t be “Stiff- Necked”..... how’s your neck, all of you that hang on to your ignorance as if it were Virtue ?

In reflection, I can answer my own question. Why do people feel the need to change the meanings of words in the Bible? Because it doesn't fit their view, and they don't know how else to make it all work together.

Much love!

 

[marks]

The truth really will set you free [those under OSAS evangelism]

I've never seen reason to think that you understand what those who believe what you call "OSAS" actually think that is.

While I don't expect you to agree with my view, are you able to say what it is? Are you able to give a fair and accurate presentation of my view? Or is your only desire to denigrage what you do not understand?

I challenge you to understand my POV.

Much love!

 

[marks]

By saying God's Grace covers everything, you are making Jesus the condoner of wickedness.
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Is that what you think?

I'll say the same to you I just said to corlove,

While I don't expect you to agree with my view, are you able to say what it is? Are you able to give a fair and accurate presentation of my view? Or is your only desire to denigrage what you do not understand?

I challenge you to understand my POV.

Much love!

 

[Michiah-Imla]

"…now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself." (Hebrews 9:26)

Christ put sin away.

You, as a believing child, is not allowed to go looking for where Christ put sin away to take it out and play with it again!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Now I know where people are coming from, l understand why they want to leave Jesus out.
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OSAS is all about Jesus. Not leaving Jesus out.

We believe one is saved in christ. No one can come except through Me Jesus said. Grace through faith is what we believe.

However again.

OSAS is not about HOW one is saved. it is about those who ARE SAVED.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I actually understood this... and I believe I agree...

Good thing you agree!

Isaiah 45:7 “ I form the light ,and create darkness, I make peace and create EVIL.”

You’re welcome......lol....

 

[Addy]

@BB.... well aren't you just all FULL of ATTITUDE today.... LOL

 

[Cooper]

OSAS is all about Jesus. Not leaving Jesus out.

We believe one is saved in christ. No one can come except through Me Jesus said. Grace through faith is what we believe.

However again.

OSAS is not about HOW one is saved. it is about those who ARE SAVED.

1 John 3:7-10 KJV
(7) Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
(8) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
(9) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
(10) In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

As I said, God is not the condoner of sin.
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[BloodBought 1953]

@BB.... well aren't you just all FULL of ATTITUDE today.... LOL

Just doing my bit to help out—— I live to serve...
Lol....

 

[Addy]

Just doing my bit to help out—— I live to serve...
Lol....

You crack me up.... ... side note.... Do they have to make the smiley guy GREEN??? Like really....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

As I said, God is not the condoner of sin

Truer words were never spoken....He doesn’t “ condone” it , but being FULL of Mercy , He Eagerly Forgives it . Almost Unbelievably, He even goes beyond that! He actually “ FORGETS” them!
“ Your Sins I will remember no more”. I know it just kills you weak, confused Legalists to hear that but I can’t help it .....it’s just the Truth. What kind of idiot would deny God's Amazing Grace? ( hint: those that think they don’t need it)

 

[Addy]

“Come now, let us settle the matter,”
says the Lord.
“Though your sins are like scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they are red as crimson,
they shall be like wool.
~Isaiah 1:18

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You crack me up.... ... side note.... Do they have to make the smiley guy GREEN??? Like really....

To answer your question about the Smiley Guy? Yes. He was created green and he will stay that way.

Something tells me you have a lot of time on your hands to dwell upon such issues....haha ...

 

[Cooper]

Acts 13:9-11 KJV
(9) Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
(10) And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
(11) And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand.

The way of the LORD is righteousness. A righteous person does not sin. OSAS allows it saying, "don't worry, you are always saved." That is the deceiver speaking, his followers will meet him one day.

Do Not pervert the right way of the Lord.
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[Addy]

To answer your question about the Smiley Guy? Yes. He was created green and he will stay that way.

Something tells me you have a lot of time on your hands to dwell upon such issues....haha ...

EXCUSE ME?????????? Are you talking to me??? Next thing I know... you will be accusing me of being a racist...
GREEN lives matter.....

 

[amigo de christo]

Without Gods Grace you are a Dead Man

That is spot on right . It was GOD alone who changed me and His grace keeps me .
Same grace has me reminding all to continue faithful to Christ unto the end .

 

[amigo de christo]

He was a Wise Satanist....
Wiser than you, probably....
Sounds-like you could learn from him.....

That is some scary stuff BB . Why would we ever HEED a satanist . JESUS , paul, jude , peter , james nor others would Ever
have said what you just said . IT goes to show what i have been saying all along . You dont sound a thing like the apostles .
You might be able to quoate the gospel RIGHT ON . But you dont sound a thing like they did . That should tell you something BB .
WHEN grace is that HYPER , ITS WRONG my friend . We must heed the SPIRIT , the TRUE GRACE OF GOD . NOT this hyper stuff
that men created which changed the church so that it no longer heeds dangers .

 

[amigo de christo]

EXCUSE ME?????????? Are you talking to me??? Next thing I know... you will be accusing me of being a racist...
GREEN lives matter.....

Babies live matter
Biblical doctrine matters .
Every WORD of GOD matters . LET THE LORD BE PRAISED >