new version of OSAS?

[Grailhunter]

Oh, and where did I lie?

This is where you and your kind lie!
did you know 99 percent of the religion on earth teaches salvation by works
You imply that works means Act 2:38 or following the teaching of Christ and Apostles.
Christ and the Apostles said that we should do Good Deeds but they did not imply that they save you.
Name the person on this forum that says you are saved by doing good for one another.
You spend to much time lying and trying to deceive.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

This is where you and your kind lie!
did you know 99 percent of the religion on earth teaches salvation by works
You imply that works means Act 2:38 or following the teaching of Christ and Apostles.
Christ and the Apostles said that we should do Good Deeds but they did not imply that they save you.
Name the person on this forum that says you are saved by doing good for one another.
You spend to much time lying and trying to deceive.

actually I just made a statement and that statement is factual

I never implied anything about acts 2 in that statement about the narrow gate

so you my friend have just lied

will you repent of your lie? Or continue on in sin?while telling me how sinful I am?

while your at it can you show where I said a person should not do good for one another or be baptized?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

The legalist are the OSASers....for If they do not believe in Once saved always saved they are not saved.....asked them, this is quite funny in some ways....Because they can't see they are trusting a belief system, rather than Jesus



I do not Believe this....If you don’t subscribes to OSAS, I believe that you are wrong.....I believe that you pay a price here in your Earthly Lifetime for your weak faith and the inability to “ Rightly Divide” the Word of God....You lack the Assurance Of your Salvation ....in your mind you are still “ on the hook” in regard to your sins.....NO Man can have any Joy in his life if he is constantly carrying around the Unbearable Weight Of trying to “ make the Grade”....( usually manifested by making sure you don't Sin on purpose, of forget to repent of all of your sins before you die)

OSAS is not a Salvation Doctrine that determines whether you are Lost or not.....Do you Believe that Jesus is Lord? Will you say so with your mouth and actually mean it? Do you believe that God raised Him from the dead? You are Saved. Case Closed.

If you just want to get Saved and live a Beggarly Life , full of doubt and fear......that’s up to you....just don’t criticize us who have been where you still are and have moved on to the “Abundant” Life That Jesus Promised.....you have NO IDEA what you are missing....you have NO IDEA of what you are talking about...you simply “ Can’t” If you have not seen and lived BOTH sides.....I have.....many of my friends have—- and you have not.Pray that God would allow you to Grow in your Faith.....get off those Blasted Bottles!

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen

narrow also means it is a small entrance, where as wide means there can be many things which allow us to enter,

did you know 99 percent of the religion on earth teaches salvation by works, and that our salvation is in the end based on what we do, how good we are, or obedience to certain commands?

that’s the wide gate

Sirs what must we do to be saved . BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST . Let the LORD be praised .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Sirs what must we do to be saved . BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST . Let the LORD be praised .

Amen. The narrow gate

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Like you think you understand or can explain Hebrews Chapters 6 and 10. LOL Fundamentalism can not explain Hebrew 6 and 10, for that matter that goes for most of Hebrews.



A five year old could understand it ....if they had “ ears to hear”

Also, it helps if you don’t have a “ Stiff Neck”.....

Newbies? Please google Renee Roland or Andrew Farley to get the simple explanations for these “ scary” verses....you’ll sleep better....

 

[Grailhunter]

actually I just made a statement and that statement is factual

did you know 99 percent of the religion on earth teaches salvation by works
Your statement was a lie.

I never implied anything about acts 2 in that statement about the narrow gate

while your at it can you show where I said a person should not do good for one another or be baptized?
So what else?
Are you saying that 99 percent of the religions have jobs?

 

[Grailhunter]

Like you think you understand or can explain Hebrews Chapters 6 and 10. LOL Fundamentalism can not explain Hebrew 6 and 10, for that matter that goes for most of Hebrews.



A five year old could understand it ....if they had “ ears to hear”

Also, it helps if you don’t have a “ Stiff Neck”.....

Newbies? Please google Renee Roland or Andrew Farley to get the simple explanations for these “ scary” verses....you’ll sleep better....

You be silly!

 

[Grailhunter]

Like you think you understand or can explain Hebrews Chapters 6 and 10. LOL Fundamentalism can not explain Hebrew 6 and 10, for that matter that goes for most of Hebrews.



A five year old could understand it ....if they had “ ears to hear”

Also, it helps if you don’t have a “ Stiff Neck”.....

Newbies? Please google Renee Roland or Andrew Farley to get the simple explanations for these “ scary” verses....you’ll sleep better....

Ya newbies...listen to they guy that thinks heaven is for evildoers.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You be silly!

Lol....You Be “ Blind”.....AND “ Stiff- Necked “.... enjoy your “Crippled” Walk Of Faith ! “....( that’s assuming you are even “walking” at all.....)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

did you know 99 percent of the religion on earth teaches salvation by works
Your statement was a lie.

while your at it can you show where I said a person should not do good for one another or be baptized?
So what else?
Are you saying that 99 percent of the religions have jobs?

So once again you can’t answer all you can do is mock because you really have no idea what is being said

thank you once again for proving me right about you my friend

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Ya newbies...listen to they guy that thinks heaven is for evildoers.

According to the law we are all evil doers. So I guess in your thinking no one will be in heaven

 

[Grailhunter]

Lol....You Be “ Blind”.....AND “ Stiff- Necked “.... enjoy your “Crippled” Walk Of Faith ! “....( that’s assuming you are even “walking” at all.....)

Truth....is not blind or stiff-necked or crippled.
To be saved
Believe that Yeshua is God and Savior.
Repent of your sins and commit to live by the Commandments of Christ.
Be Baptized.
Participate in communion.

From there the application is simple, live by the Commandments and examples set by Christ.
Love God
Love one another.
Live by the Golden Rule.
Be Good and Do Good.
Praise the Lord frequently.

 

[Grailhunter]

So once again you can’t answer all you can do is mock because you really have no idea what is being said
thank you once again for proving me right about you my friend

You said...did you know 99 percent of the religion on earth teaches salvation by works

I said...Name the person on this forum that says you are saved by doing good for one another.

To be saved
Believe that Yeshua is God and Savior.
Repent of your sins and commit to live by the Commandments of Christ.
Be Baptized.
Participate in communion.

From there the application is simple, live by the Commandments and examples set by Christ.
Love God
Love one another.
Live by the Golden Rule.
Be Good and Do Good.
Praise the Lord frequently.

Was there a ? mark in any of your posts?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Ya newbies...listen to they guy that thinks heaven is for evildoers



We are ALL “ Evil Doers”——- the question is, what are we supposed to do about it ? You obviously are unaware that you are a Far Worse Sinner than you think you are.....you are living in “ A Fool’s Paradise”..... if you ever knew God .....if you had ever Met him , your only proper reaction would be to say, “ Woe is me.....I am unclean...I am undone.....Lord have Mercy on me a Sinner”

Some “ Evil Doers” eventually get “ Contrite, Repentant hearts—— they get Saved, if they Turn to God ......Others never receive a” Contrite” Heart.....They are the ones that are in trouble....They never saw any “ need “ for the Heart- Change .....

 

[Grailhunter]

We are ALL “ Evil Doers”——- the question is, what are we supposed to do about it ? You obviously are unaware that you are a Far Worse Sinner than you think you are.....you are living in “ A Fool’s Paradise”..... if you ever knew God .....if you had ever Met him , your only proper reaction would be to say, “ Woe is me.....I am unclean...I am undone.....Lord have Mercy on me a Sinner”

Is that why Paul called Christians saints? Have you changed the definition of saints too.
Christians are good....It would be Satan that would like insulting Christians.
It is a choice to be an evildoer. Like it is a choice to preach evildoing.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You said...did you know 99 percent of the religion on earth teaches salvation by works
I did and you in the context of the narrow gate and you said I lied and you have yet to show I lied

I said...Name the person on this forum that says you are saved by doing good for one another.

Forgive me I am still waiting for you to prove I was a liar. You changed the subject not me

prove I lied in what I said in context can you please?

you made the accusation. You don’t get to change the subject because you can’t prove I lied

To be saved
Believe that Yeshua is God and Savior.
Repent of your sins and commit to live by the Commandments of Christ.
Be Baptized.
Participate in communion.

From there the application is simple, live by the Commandments and examples set by Christ.
Love God
Love one another.
Live by the Golden Rule.
Be Good and Do Good.
Praise the Lord frequently.

Was there a ? mark in any of your posts?

You prove where I lied about the 99 percent then I will answer this question

 

[Taken]

How do the non Teachers of Osas think of this: "and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,"?

You should ask one who does not believe in OSAS for their perspective.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Grailhunter]

You prove where I lied about the 99 percent then I will answer this question

You said...did you know 99 percent of the religion on earth teaches salvation by works

It is lie. Plain and simple. Do you think you can find a statement of faith in a denomination that says doing good to one other will save, or whatever perverted definition of works you have. I made it simple for you, name someone here on the forum that says works save you. You work against Christ and the Apostles at every turn...Satan would be proud of you.

There is no works in Christianity. Following the teaching of Christ and the Apostles is not works.

The only time the term works come up negatively in the Bible is in regard to works of the Mosaic Law.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen. The narrow gate

This too is why i fear for so many . Because often many are following another jesus . And that wont bode well on the day of judgement .
So my firm advice is , we get into those bibles and learn that JESUS and learn what the apostels taught and learn it very well .
For many are following another jesus . And that jesus wont save them nor deliver them from the wrath of God .