new version of OSAS?

[Eternally Grateful]

Satan is a schemer...preaching evil as good. Genesis 3:1-5 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
You and your kind preach sin all you want and go to heaven...which would mean that heaven would be full of evildoers. Rewarding evil!

Well now not only are you shown to be a teacher works. Your also a liar. I do not teach above. But we see your true colors shining through

you also prove like others like you you have absolutely no concept of what I believe. And you resort to lies

again I thank you for proving me right

You lie again and really do not have the intelligence to lie well.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. KJV

Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. NASB

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. NIV

These scriptures are consistent with the Koine Greek texts and not that you would understand it but....The Greek language did not take English grammar into consideration.

I lie and have no integrity?

lol yet you refuse to look at the Greek. You keep showing me interpretation and mock me

it’s ok I know why. You know if you looked in the Greek I would be proven right

again. Thanks for proving me right.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Again, as I said, The Greek language did not take English grammar into consideration...of course right? English not part of that time period. But let me connect the dots for ya....

Peter said do this....Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ...
So then Peter explains that this will happen....for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

No matter how simple and straight foreword the scriptures....you people try to twist them.

My friend. The Greek was written first nit the English. You have it backwards

the English did not take into account the Greek

if you want to keep using this as an excuse you alienate yourself

 

[Cooper]

Read post 3020 on the meaning of eternal life....and it may give you an ideal of what salvation is.

Read EPHESIANS 1:13 too

As if I don't know what salvation is. The things I read on here....
You may have noticed I have not posted here in a while, guess why...
.

 

[Grailhunter]

My friend. The Greek was written first nit the English. You have it backwards

No you have it backwards....are you kidding me.....that is why the Greek could not consider the English. LOL

Greek 2000 years ago.....LOL

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No you have it backwards....are you kidding me.....that is why the Greek could not consider the English. LOL

Greek 2000 years ago.....LOL

I am done my friend

good luck.

 

[Grailhunter]

Well now not only are you shown to be a teacher works. Your also a liar. I do not teach above. But we see your true colors shining through

No Acts 2:38 is not works.

you also prove like others like you you have absolutely no concept of what I believe. And you resort to lies

You have no idea that the intent of my conversation with you was give you enough rope to hang yourself. You are OSAS because you want a religion of sin and enjoy deceiving people.

yet you refuse to look at the Greek. You keep showing me interpretation and mock me

LOL I have the Greek right in front of me.

 

[Corlove13]

Years ago I read this and I have done it ever since. If we have Christ in our heart while we go about our daily work we can do this no trouble at all, and if you were close enough to hear, you will hear me quietly saying things like, "thank you Lord, I love you Lord, keep me safe Lord, help me Lord." He is in my thoughts the whole time, every waking moment of every day.

Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
(1Th 5:16-18 KJV)
.

............

As if I don't know what salvation is. The things I read on here....
You may have noticed I have not posted here in a while, guess why...
.

You lost me?

 

[Grailhunter]

There are people on this forum that will preach a message that can lead to hell. Some like the OSAS, Calvinists, Jehovah's Witnesses and the new denomination that sides with social values and morals are a coordinated effort to harm people. But then you have people that have mental and or emotional problems that just like to mess with people's minds.

Now certainly there are debatable issues and valid differences of interpretation. I am multi-denominational so I am not only tolerant to such things but can stand and worship and celebrate Christ with a lot of them. I am like a kid in church and like a lion when I face evil. And evil is what you have to beware of. When someone is on this forum talking about their beliefs, you need to consider, if people agree with them, can it cause harm? Lead them to hell. I have met some Jehovah's Witnesses that were nice but then again I have had some of them up against the wall. The Jehovah's Witnesses are not Jews nor do not believe Christ is God. So they are in neither covenant so there can be no salvation. Bad News. Calvinists blaspheme God while edifying themselves. OSAS and the new social denomination preach a path to hell.

Some of us grew up believing in Christ, some of us became Christians later in life. Some of us came to Christ broken and in tears... The last thing these people need is to meet up with are these heretical beliefs. They come to know Christ and change their ways...but then they meet up with these OSAS people or those of the social denominations and they are told, no need to change, that is not part of being saved. You can go on sinning and as long as you believe in Christ you will go to heaven. It is basically Satan heading them off at the pass. He has them, he wants to keep them! Help me stand up against these agents of Satan.

Salvation is a simple message and Appling Christianity to your life is easy. *My yoke is easy and my burden is light* A simple message given to a simple people.

To be saved
Believe that Yeshua is God and Savior.
Repent of your sins and commit to live by the Commandments of Christ.
Be Baptized.
Participate in communion.

From there the application is simple, live by the Commandments and examples set by Christ.
Love God
Love one another.
Live by the Golden Rule.
Be Good and Do Good.
Praise the Lord frequently.

If we had a 3X5 card we would still have room to add a few things….
Like…know enough to explain the Gospel of Salvation.
Fellowship with Christians and sing praises to the Lord. It don’t have to be in a church…
Be aware that you are what you do. Christians are the candle and the salt of Christ. What we do is a reflection of Christ and the Church. Be a good example to others.
So simple.

Now the application of Christianity is not the part that saves you. The application in part is obeying the teachings of Christ....The other part is what Christ wants us to do for one another. In service to Christ, the Christian walk with Christ. Why do you call me Lord Lord and not do what I say? Good question.

And that leads to the topic of being watchful for those that are in need in some way. How many Christians do not go to church because they have had bad experiences at church or with their families even? How many Christians have fallen through the cracks and are down and out and in a bad way? No friends or family that will or can help. This gets to me! It will not happen on my watch!

I ask those that are not in church to find a good church...it is important...but a church is a group of people and if you can find a group of people that meet and study the Bible and praise the Lord...that is more than good enough. If you are in church, be watchful for those in need. When I speak in churches I ask and I am rather forceful...Is there someone here that is hurting, that is down and out and or feels alone in this world? I want you to stand now! (I say that more than once.) Then I tell them, you are only alone if you are not standing right now. Do you pray for help? Do you think it is going to drop out of the sky? You are in a congregation of Christians in service to Christ...this is the place to stand. Some of the people will not stand, they will just cry and I will send the deacons to minster to them.

So the message to Christians is simple Be Good and do good...and your reward will be great.

 

[HisLife]

I have been educated in theology...biblical scholarship at 6 universities in 5 countries. I have a $40,000 library of my own. Four computers dedicated to different things. In that library I have books with photo copies of the oldest texts available and the education and the linguistic books to understand the languages of the Bible.

All for Naught.... lol....all that time....all that money....and the result? A Professional dotard. Too much study is a weariness to the flesh.

2 Tim 3:7 comes to mind

You wrongly relate to the knowledge you have, and by so doing you hurt other believers, Knowledge puffs up, but charity edifies.

And if any man think that he knows any thing, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know.

But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

With All your studying has it taught you who is known of God? has it taught you charity? or do we get puffed up, forever learning and weariness, lets not take a poll to prove it but I think you realize the side your on

 

[Grailhunter]

All for Naught.... lol....all that time....all that money....and the result? A Professional dotard. Too much study is a weariness to the flesh.

2 Tim 3:7 comes to mind

You wrongly relate to the knowledge you have, and by so doing you hurt other believers, Knowledge puffs up, but charity edifies.

And if any man think that he knows any thing, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know.

But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

With All your studying has it taught you who is known of God? has it taught you charity? or do we get puffed up, forever learning and weariness, lets not take a poll to prove it but I think you realize the side your on

So not true. All I seek is truth. and what comes to mind for me is

Matthew 7:7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you."

Proverbs 4:5-9 Acquire wisdom! Acquire understanding! Do not forget nor turn away from the words of my mouth.
Do not abandon her, and she will guard you; Love her, and she will watch over you. The beginning of wisdom is: Acquire wisdom;
And with all your possessions, acquire understanding. Prize her, and she will exalt you; She will honor you if you embrace her.
9 She will place on your head a garland of grace; She will present you with a crown of beauty.”

Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 2:16 For the Lord gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding;

Proverbs 3:13 Blessed is the one who finds wisdom, and the one who gets understanding,

Proverbs 8:11-12 For wisdom is better than jewels, and all that you may desire cannot compare with her. “I, wisdom, dwell with prudence, and I find knowledge and discretion.

Proverbs 16:16 How much better to get wisdom than gold! To get understanding is to be chosen rather than silver.

Jerimiah 29:13 "You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart."

Ecclesiastes 7:25 I turned my heart to know and to search out and to seek wisdom and the scheme of things, and to know the wickedness of folly and the foolishness that is madness.

Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,

Luke 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries will be able to withstand or contradict.

Romans 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!

1st Corinthians 1:30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,

James 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom.

Colossians 2:2-3 That their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, to reach all the riches of full assurance of understanding and the knowledge of God's mystery, which is Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

My message is true and simple and good.

 

[HisLife]

So not true.

Repent

My message is true and simple and good.

Yea Yea Repent and Beeee good and Dooooo Good right... lol, took a lot of study to come up with that huh, I was gonna respond to your other post to me but it got buried pretty quick so might just run with showing you Charity today....Repent Grail! Repent!

 

[Cooper]

LOL
You have no idea about the intent of our conversation....what do they call it....clueless.
I have been educated in theology...biblical scholarship at 6 universities in 5 countries. I have a $40,000 library of my own. Four computers dedicated to different things. In that library I have books with photo copies of the oldest texts available and the education and the linguistic books to understand the languages of the Bible.

Now for the intent of our conversation...you and Tong2020 and BB have an intent to deceive people and you have no problems lying.
Liars have tendencies...character traits...when a liar opens a Bible they are looking for scriptures to deceive people and hurt people and to justify what they believe, do, and want. The are not looking to help people or be of service to Christ. They somehow get satisfaction is seeing how many people they can lead down the path to hell...For this reason with this dark heart they are not going to see the good in Christians and they are going to preach against, even despise doing good...as Satan would also hate good Christians and despise those that do good.

I will always challenge evil...that includes the teaching of OSAS, Calvinists, Jehovah's Witnesses..etc.

How do we recognise pride please?
.

 

[marks]

Pretty much the same with me. And it humbles me before my God, every time I fall. But I thank God that every time I do, He never fails to discipline me. And His discipline, while it makes me suffer, I know it is good for me.

Tong
R3637

Sometimes it's enough just to make contact with Him in that moment. To remember what He's done for us.

He's shown me great love in very dark times. Even though I sit in darkness, the Lord will be my light!

Amen, brother! He never fails us! Yes, life isn't always pleasant, but He is always good. Even in the worst of times, we can still rest in His love, and KNOW that He's not going to just leave us there.

Much love!

 

[Grailhunter]

How do we recognise pride please?
.

Usually from the Biblical stand point boasting.
What are the results of pride?
It is not when you speak the facts.
Christ was not prideful when He said, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Paul was not prideful when he said, I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven...He was talking about himself.
If a person says they are saved that is not pride or boasting.
I guess the best examples of pride in the Bible would be seen in the negative results. For example Saul's selfish ambition and pride, caused him to be blinded to God's love and more focused on being right, being better than everyone, and the law.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

So the message to Christians is simple Be Good and do good



Sorry , no cigar....”Your” Message Is the False, Perverted “gospel” for all Religionists, Legalists and Tares.....

The True Message for True Christians that came from a New ,Contrite Heart That was the Essence Of you being Born Again would be this—— “ There is no “ good” in you and all of that which you “ think” is “ good” is no more than “ filthy rags” or dead works”.....

I believe you have Two problems....pride and self- Righteousness ......Not once have you indicated that there was ever a time in your life when the Holy Spirit opened your eyes and actually showed you your wretchedness and total depravity before a Holy and Perfect God....Your Problem is that is you have never Repented ....

By “ Repentance”, I am NOT talking about, “ repenting from sins”.....I am talking about the Repentance that leads to Salvation——- not turning FROM sins , but turning TO God ! Turning to God as they truly wretched Sinner that you are .....I am talking about a Once in a Lifetime Experience That totally changes your entire concept of Life.....You finally see the True HORROR of who you are and you see that you are headed to Hell like a speeding bullet....a Hell for you that is 100% deserved and 100% inescapable —- lest you find a Saviour....One that can provide a Salvation That was never deserved and gave it to you as an Undeserved Gift, when He did not “ have “ to lift a finger to save you, and He certainly did not “ have” to undergo an agonizing death on a Roman Cross to pay the price for your Sins.....

All those fancy degrees....all those computers.....all of those vast libraries that you own....” All For Naught”......

If you have not seen that you are a Rotten Sinner .....if you have not been driven to your knees , pleading for the Mercy and Grace of God that you in “NO WAY” DESERVE....
If you have never identified with the Sinful Tax - Collector who , with a “ Contrite” Heart ( Given to Him by the Holy Spirit) that had finally come to the “ End Of Himself” and was driven to the point where all that was left was for him was to cry out, “ Lord, have Mercy on me a Sinner!”—— you are still living in “The Fool’s Paradise”—— you have never even entered the “Starting Gate” Of True Christianity.Pray That God will lead you to that Starting Point....pray that He will give you the “ Contrite Heart” that lights the fuse of Salvation and everything else that follows.....Forget about all of those worthless “theological degrees....REPENT! TURN to God as the Wretched Sinner that you are...” Turn to Me and I will turn to you.....”

 

[Cooper]

Usually from the Biblical stand point boasting.
What are the results of pride?
It is not when you speak the facts.
Christ was not prideful when He said, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Paul was not prideful when he said, I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven...He was talking about himself.
If a person says they are saved that is not pride or boasting.
I guess the best examples of pride in the Bible would be seen in the negative results. For example Saul's selfish ambition and pride, caused him to be blinded to God's love and more focused on being right, being better than everyone, and the law.

Do you ever read your own posts?
.

 

[Cooper]

Of course not....but if God gave me a Promise that said that I would keep them forever and I believed that Promise—— guess what would have happened? If you respond, “ Why BB , you would certainly still HAVE them— God can’t break a Promise!” ......if that was your response—— go to the head of the class....what a Silly analogy....what else have you got? Nothing more fun than “shooting fish in a barrel”.....

Your birthday and Christmas presents were a permanent gift, but you no longer have them. You, of your own freewill, have discarded them.
.

 

[Addy]

I think this thread is about DEAD. So... I felt the need to take this opportunity to comment on this particular QUOTE.

I have been educated in theology...biblical scholarship at 6 universities in 5 countries. I have a $40,000 library of my own. Four computers dedicated to different things. In that library I have books with photo copies of the oldest texts available and the education and the linguistic books to understand the languages of the Bible.


The above is a PRIME example of BOASTING which is birthed from PRIDE... It is such a good example ... it gets an A+... WHO says something like this??? A braggart does. Scripture has lots to say about this "condition"... and none of it is GOOD.

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. ~Matthew 6:1-34


Moral of the story.... BOASTING is NOT GOOD!!!! Telling people HOW good we are... how educated we are ... how expensive our library is... is NOT "being" GOOD.

This is what becomes of LEGALISM.... this method of BRAGGING to others is done to INFLATE the ego... to build up oneSELF. It is NOT pleasing to God. LOOK AT ME.... EVERYONE..... LOOK at HOW SMART I AM.


GOOD GRIEF!!!! A very poor and sad display for all to see.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Your birthday and Christmas presents were a permanent gift, but you no longer have them. You, of your own freewill, have discarded them.
.

What the? Too silly to respond to....

 

[Addy]

Your birthday and Christmas presents were a permanent gift, but you no longer have them. You, of your own freewill, have discarded them.

Aha @Blood Bought 1953 ... YOU threw out that tie I bought you ... Didn't you ????????????