Mark of the Beast and salvation

[RLT63]

John McArthur, under the spirit of error, believes God will forgive those who take the MoB.

It is important to note that John McArthur also speaks against the Holy Spirit in other areas of Scripture as well.

I believe he is a Calvinist and teaches reformed theology if I’m not mistaken. (According to Wikipedia this is correct. The Master's Seminary - Wikipedia)

 

[Marty fox]

Okay when the day comes you go ahead and take the mark (because you’re sure you’ll be forgiven). I’m not going to take that chance.

Your not even listening to me I would never take the mark

 

[Marty fox]

If they take the MoB HE will = HE said so.

Denying the words of Christ in Revelation comes from a spirit of error = this is the dangerous path you are on.

There is a spirit of error that misleads christians into false teachings.

The Apostle John wrote this by the Holy Spirit: 1 John 4:6
"We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."

What spirit are you currently listening to.....? = not the Holy Spirit = be careful how you handle God's words.

Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.

Don’t you get it your denying John 3:16?


All you guys are seeing is that you think that I am rejecting what the bible says happens to the ones that take the mark of the beast when I’m not I agree that they will be dated but at the same time every one of you are denying and rejecting John 3:16

What I am presenting is the only view that doesn’t have scripture contradicting scripture And to understand that will reveal what the mark of the beast actually is

 

[ewq1938]

Your not even listening to me I would never take the mark

Would you let them place a literal mark on your forehead or right hand in order to be able to buy food for you and your family?

 

[David in NJ]

Don’t you get it your denying John 3:16?


All you guys are seeing is that you think that I am rejecting what the bible says happens to the ones that take the mark of the beast when I’m not I agree that they will be dated but at the same time every one of you are denying and rejecting John 3:16

What I am presenting is the only view that doesn’t have scripture contradicting scripture And to understand that will reveal what the mark of the beast actually is

Wrong again.

What you are doing is forcing your will upon the Will of God using scripture against God.

Do you know who specializes in doing just this? = Satan

Then the devil took Him to the holy city and set Him on the pinnacle of the temple,
“If You are the Son of God,” he said, “throw Yourself down. For it is written:

‘He will command His angels concerning You,
and they will lift You up in their hands,
so that You will not strike Your foot
against a stone.’”

Matthew 4:5-6

 

[Marty fox]

Would you let them place a literal mark on your forehead or right hand in order to be able to buy food for you and your family?

I don’t believe that would ever happen but if it did I would because that is not worshiping the beast it’s providing for you family which is what God commanded me to do. Now if that had certain evil peramtors around it I wouldn’t not because God would never forgive me but because I wouldn’t be apart of anything lol that.

I didn’t take the vaccine not because I thought that it was the mark of the beast but because I wanted to protect my body from something that wasn’t properly tested

God looks at the heart

 

[David in NJ]

I believe he is a Calvinist and teaches reformed theology if I’m not mistaken. (According to Wikipedia this is correct. The Master's Seminary - Wikipedia)

i know that he preaches the Gospel but not the "Whole Counsel of God".

He preaches from the intellect = man's prowess.........

 

[Marty fox]

Wrong again.

What you are doing is forcing your will upon the Will of God using scripture against God.

Do you know who specializes in doing just this? = Satan

Then the devil took Him to the holy city and set Him on the pinnacle of the temple,
“If You are the Son of God,” he said, “throw Yourself down. For it is written:

‘He will command His angels concerning You,
and they will lift You up in their hands,
so that You will not strike Your foot
against a stone.’”

Matthew 4:5-6

Or I believe in John 3:16

 

[David in NJ]

I don’t believe that would ever happen but if it did I would because that is not worshiping the beast it’s providing for you family which is what God commanded me to do. Now if that had certain evil peramtors around it I wouldn’t not because God would never forgive me but because I wouldn’t be apart of anything lol that.

I didn’t take the vaccine not because I thought that it was the mark of the beast but because I wanted to protect my body from something that wasn’t properly tested

You said: "I didn’t take the vaccine not because I thought that it was the mark of the beast but because I wanted to protect my body from something that wasn’t properly tested."

ALERT = You correctly refused the experimental vaxx but you are willing to experiment with your Eternity by going against the Word of God.

You have just undone your own Protection.

 

[David in NJ]

Or I believe in John 3:16

GREAT - so do i

the difference between you and i = i believe ALL of what God says = not you

You have invited into your mind human reasoning and placed it above and over obedience and faith in what God has told you not to do..........

 

[Marty fox]

You said: "I didn’t take the vaccine not because I thought that it was the mark of the beast but because I wanted to protect my body from something that wasn’t properly tested."

ALERT = You correctly refused the experimental vaxx but you are willing to experiment with your Eternity by going against the Word of God.

You have just undone your own Protection.

And your view contradicts two scriptures and my view doesn’t contradict any scripture and you accuse me of rejecting Gods word

I used the scriptures to interpret scripture and you are basing your view on your literal understanding which contradicts 3:16

 

[Marty fox]

GREAT - so do i

the difference between you and i = i believe ALL of what God says = not you

You have invited into your mind human reasoning and placed it above and over obedience and faith in what God has told you not to do..........

But you just denied that God will give eternal life to whoever believes in Jesus

God forgave Paul for hunting down persecuting and killing Christians because he repented and believed in Jesus that is the truth truth of John:3:16 not your view

 

[Marty fox]

Scriptures that a literal mark contradicts

Romans 10:13

for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved


John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life


1John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

All I am doing is revealing the truth of scripture

 

[David in NJ]

Scriptures that a literal mark contradicts

Romans 10:13

for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved


John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life


1John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

All I am doing is revealing the truth of scripture

No your not .

You are trying to find a loop hole from scripture that enables you to disobey God and still be forgiven for receiving the MoB.

Exactly what satan wants you to do.

 

[ewq1938]

I don’t believe that would ever happen but if it did I would because that is not worshiping the beast it’s providing for you family which is what God commanded me to do. Now if that had certain evil peramtors around it I wouldn’t not because God would never forgive me but because I wouldn’t be apart of anything lol that.

I didn’t take the vaccine not because I thought that it was the mark of the beast but because I wanted to protect my body from something that wasn’t properly tested

God looks at the heart

So you believe the mark is spiritual, but you would avoid any physical marks? Smart but it is lol funny since it aligns more with the physical mark being the real mark.

 

[ewq1938]

Scriptures that a literal mark contradicts

Romans 10:13

for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved


John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life


1John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

All I am doing is revealing the truth of scripture

None of that contradicts a physical mark plus YOU would avoid any physical marks! There is hypocrisy here.

 

[Marty fox]

None of that contradicts a physical mark plus YOU would avoid any physical marks! There is hypocrisy here.

Do you see how you misquote me? I never said that I would avoid any physical marks? Read post 167 again

 

[Marty fox]

So you believe the mark is spiritual, but you would avoid any physical marks? Smart but it is lol funny since it aligns more with the physical mark being the real mark.

You should read this post again you didn’t understand what I said

 

[Marty fox]

None of that contradicts a physical mark plus YOU would avoid any physical marks! There is hypocrisy here.

Every single one did as not one says unless you take the mark

How do you only see what you think is my mistakes but not see your?

Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord (will be save)

If you declare Jesus is Lord (you will be saved)

If you confess your sins (He will forgive you)

Who ever believes in Jesus (will have eternal life)

All I have done is believe what exactly scripture really says and I trust in the Lord and that Jesus blood is powerful to cover all sins but only if you ask thus the mark is unrepentant sins

 

[Marty fox]

No your not .

You are trying to find a loop hole from scripture that enables you to disobey God and still be forgiven for receiving the MoB.

Exactly what satan wants you to do.

See post #180