Limited atonement !

[Lizbeth]

Christs death was limited to them He actually redeemed Titus 2:14

14 who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

The giving of Himself speaks of His death, and specifically says "for us", who are they? Why it's all that are redeemed from iniquity, and purified unto himself, who constitute a peculiar people, zealous of good works. 17

Only in a manner of speaking, from His point of view, having foreknowledge. It says we are "elect according to the foreknowledge of God". We need ears to ear what the SPIRIT is saying......reading scripture isn't like reading a novel or textbook, we need to read it or meditate on it "prayerfully", ie, in the spirit, while looking to Him for the understanding.

Oh well, in the end, we know who Jesus said He reveals things to and who things are hid from.

 

[brightfame52]

Only in a manner of speaking, from His point of view, having foreknowledge. It says we are "elect according to the foreknowledge of God". We need ears to ear what the SPIRIT is saying......reading scripture isn't like reading a novel or textbook, we need to read it or meditate on it "prayerfully", ie, in the spirit, while looking to Him for the understanding.

Oh well, in the end, we know who Jesus said He reveals things to and who things are hid from.

You promote Error, His death actually redeemed themHe died for from all iniquity Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

 

[Lizbeth]

ok let's try it again. For by Grace (you don't deserve it), you have been saved through Faith (in Jesus Christ) and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God (faith in Jesus Christ), not of works (something you do), lest anyone should boast (saying you had something to do with your salvation).

Faith is the gift God gives you, you didn't do it, God did.

Of course....I agree! And He gives it to those who simply by grace are willing and open to receive it. Receiving is not an active thing is it.....it is passive, not something we DO but something we only ALLOW, if we will....ALLOW the Lord to have His way. That is what it means to rest in Him, to enter His rest, to be at rest, not resisting, and not trying to do anything on our own. Be STILL and know that He is God.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

If Gods love is limited.. Then God is not a God of love.

He can expect another rebellion in the future.. Because he has not shut down the lie of the evil one

 

[Lizbeth]

You promote Error, His death actually redeemed themHe died for from all iniquity Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Yes of course. I was responding to this statement: "Christ's death was limited to them He actually redeemed".

 

[brightfame52]

Yes of course. I was responding to this statement: "Christ's death was limited to them He actually redeemed".

Yes, so He didnt die for the unredeemed segment of the world

 

[Rockerduck]

Of course....I agree! And He gives it to those who simply by grace are willing and open to receive it. Receiving is not an active thing is it.....it is passive, not something we DO but something we only ALLOW, if we will....ALLOW the Lord to have His way. That is what it means to rest in Him, to enter His rest, to be at rest, not resisting, and not trying to do anything on our own. Be STILL and know that He is God.

Not so, "we" can do nothing, "we" cannot 'allow". That is works, where 'we" have to do something. God's will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. God draws you to Him, that's it, your soul will yearn to be close to that and submit to His will who called you. Nothing in the flesh at all you can do. God has sovereign control over all aspects of your salvation. After submitting to His will, then you can enter His rest in Jesus Christ, who is our rest.

 

[Hey You!]

Scripture can’t give us faith, faith is a gift from God, a supernatural divine Living gift....Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed.....a Living seed...

What do you think the Gospel is, if not Scripture?

The word of God is Living and Active...


Here's a Gospel Tract using only Verses...

 

[Hey You!]

What do you think the Gospel is, if not Scripture?

The word of God is Living and Active...


Here's a Gospel Tract using only Verses...

Scripture Alone ~ by ReverendRV * September 17

Genesis 1:1 KJV; In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Through Faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”. So God created Man in his own image, in the image of God created him; male and female created he them. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the Garden thou may freely eat; but of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eat thereof thou shalt surely die. When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, a tree to be desired to make them wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also to her husband with her; and he ate it. At once they saw what they had done, and they realized they were naked. Then they sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves. ~ For the wages of Sin is Death…

All that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father but is of the world. ~ Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him and he began to teach them. He said: "You’ve heard the Commandment that says, 'You must not commit adultery.' but I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. Anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.” ~ For whoever keeps the whole Law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it…

The wages of Sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal Life! ~ For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting Life. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory; Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. For by Grace you are Saved through Faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by Works so that no one can boast. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. ~ I’ve passed on to you what is most important and what had also been passed on to me. Christ died for our Sins, just as the Scriptures said. He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, just as the Scriptures said. The Lord will rescue us from every evil deed and will bring us safely to his Heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen…

Revelation 22:20-21 KJV; He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

 

[Rockerduck]

Scripture Alone ~ by ReverendRV * September 17

Genesis 1:1 KJV; In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Through Faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”. So God created Man in his own image, in the image of God created him; male and female created he them. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the Garden thou may freely eat; but of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eat thereof thou shalt surely die. When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, a tree to be desired to make them wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also to her husband with her; and he ate it. At once they saw what they had done, and they realized they were naked. Then they sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves. ~ For the wages of Sin is Death…

All that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father but is of the world. ~ Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him and he began to teach them. He said: "You’ve heard the Commandment that says, 'You must not commit adultery.' but I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. Anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.” ~ For whoever keeps the whole Law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it…

The wages of Sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal Life! ~ For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting Life. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory; Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. For by Grace you are Saved through Faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by Works so that no one can boast. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. ~ I’ve passed on to you what is most important and what had also been passed on to me. Christ died for our Sins, just as the Scriptures said. He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, just as the Scriptures said. The Lord will rescue us from every evil deed and will bring us safely to his Heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen…

Revelation 22:20-21 KJV; He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Nice tract. Just to be sure you understand faith. It is the gift of God to have faith in Jesus Christ. It is not your faith, but the faith God gave you in Jesus Christ. I have faith in God through our savior Jesus Christ, by Grace.