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TLHKAJ

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Yes, they are the false prophets, we know that...and we don’t listen to their voice because we recognise them...they are the voice of a stranger, to which we flee from...

Unfortunately there are some here who tell me how to be Born Again...Praise God that I don’t listen to a word that they say..I only listen to the testimony of the Living God who reveals his truth to my heart..in Jesus Name...Amen!
That means nothing unless you believe the testimony of Jesus Christ. You don't know how to measure truth if you don't believe the Word of Truth.

John 17:17 KJV — Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
John 14:6 KJV — Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
 

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Okay so you feel from that verse God may not find one of His Lost Sheep ? Thats a very low view of God friend, a blasphemous disrespectful view !
That's Jesus' teaching. I am not shocked you would call his teachings blasphemy. I am simply repeating what he said. Are you sure you are on the right side?
 

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That means nothing unless you believe the testimony of Jesus Christ. You don't know how to measure truth if you don't believe the Word of Truth.

John 17:17 KJV — Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
John 14:6 KJV — Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
This is absolute nonsense.

@TLHKAJ said..

That means nothing unless you believe the testimony of Jesus Christ. You don't know how to measure truth if you don't believe the Word of Truth.

RJ says.....she can’t challenge my testimony...with questions...I’ve asked her again to explain...Flesh gives birth to flesh?

Spirit gives birth to spirit?...to which she hasn’t answered...I’ve also explained that I never knew that I had a spirit, that was until, God decided to bring my spirit Alive in Christ....and give birth to my spirit...her accusations that I’m not Born Again fall flat on their face...and we can see from her posts to me, why they fall flat on their face..



The word of truth, confirms how we are Born Of The Spirit, I have already explained this to you many times.

To become Born Again, is by the divine Spiritual birth that can only be performed by the Living testimony of the Spirit.
That is my testimony on how I became Born Again..NEVER EVER to be denied to you.
All you do is post scripture, you can’t challenge my post and you have never asked questions, you just try and deny my Living testimony that is biblical, because it doesn’t fit in with your testimony on how you chose God.

Now, I have no idea why you are trying to dismiss my testimony because it’s biblical .you will NEVER get me to deny my Living testimony, like you have been trying to do all over this thread.

I have respected your testimony where you believe that you chose God, even though I have NO understanding of that...my testimony is biblical,if that’s all that you can come up with to try and prove that my Living testimony is false...then I feel sorry for you and pray for whatever reason that Gods helps you accept other beliefs that are different to you...so, when you can challenge my testimony in the proper way, then I will be waiting...

I believe Gods Living testimony who indwells my heart, the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods child. Spirit gives birth to spirit...when your ready to discuss in a civil manner I will be waiting..

This is how I was Born Of The Spirit and NO it’s not a metaphor, it’s literal and as the Spirit was coming in through my body and taking up residence / manifested in my spirit...The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods child..

John 3​

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3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.


Now, please explain to me what Spirit gives birth to spirit means?...just like flesh gives birth to flesh?


Like I said, there are followers of Gods written word, that does not mean that their spirit is Born Again..why that upsets you, I have no idea?
When I became Born Again by Gods Living testimony..I was/ am clothed in the righteousness of Christ...my spirit knows that it’s right before God, because my spirit is Born Again by the supernatural divine Living Spirit Of God....Spirit gives birth to spirit...so I await you to challenge me on what a spirit is @TLHKAJ ?

Who regenerates our spirit and brings it Alive in Christ?

Romans 8​

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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Continued @TLHKAJ ......


Also.

That means nothing unless you believe the testimony of Jesus Christ. You don't know how to measure truth if you don't believe the Word of Truth.

Please don’t tell me that I don’t believe in the Name Of Jesus, I was Born Again by the Living testimony of His Spirit..my spirit believes in the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit....so watch your “ tongue “.....my testimony doesn’t come from the Bible , the Bible confirms my testimony and who I am in Christ....my testimony is in the Living Spirit Of Christ, for he birthed my spirit into his..

Which for some reason you have no knowledge of Gods Living testimony, His Living Spirit.

Like I’ve explained, there are those who follow the Bible, yet they have no knowledge who the Living Spirit Of God is, within their own heart, for that is where he resides has manifested himself...just as his written word confirms...




Who regenerates our spirit and brings it Alive in Christ?

Did the Bible give you a new heart.....if it did, then please tell me how?..lol...did it also take the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.?

Explain how the Bible can do that?

You don’t seem to understand that we’re not in the realm of the flesh, were in the realm of the Spirit?

Whose seed is growing in my heart, conforming me into the image of Jesus....?

Whose Living fruit do we bear, the Bible fruit or the Living fruit of the Spirit?

Colossians 3:1-3 ESV​

If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth. For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God

[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. [10] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness


Titus 3:5 - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Ezekiel 36:26 - A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

1 John 3:9 - Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

1 Peter 1:23 - Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
 
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That God only intended Salvation for a particular people, and Christ died only for that people is seen in Gods Covenant Promises,

Gen 17:7

.And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.”

Heb 8:10

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Salvation is promised to a specific seed Rom 4:16


16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,16
 
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That means nothing unless you believe the testimony of Jesus Christ. You don't know how to measure truth if you don't believe the Word of Truth.

John 17:17 KJV — Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
John 14:6 KJV — Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Limited effectual atonement is Truth in scripture !