LGBTQ

[TinMan]

Gays are not a minority, by definition....As They are not a culture, they are not a race, and they are not an ethnic group.

Actually they are a culturally distinct group. A culturally distinct group defines itself with such things as appearance, mode of dress, style, shared history, shared values, language, dialect or idioms, symbols, traditions, and/or communities. This unique culture produces a collective identity and a sense of belonging to that minority. That identity is internal and derives from inside the individual.

 

[TinMan]

Non-sequitur. Form follows function. If a man sleeps with another man, he wickedly suppresses knowledge of his form, function, and design, abandoning reason in favor of pleasure.

So you reject reason?

Yeah, get used to it. Science is NOT the sole arbiter of truth. Scientific papers can be written to say anything the patron wants to hear.

yet you refuse to look at any research because it might contain something you don't want to hear

 

[TinMan]

EVEN IF Sexual preference does grant you minority status, it does not grant PROTECTED minority status.

Preferences are not protected.

And ACTIONS are the proper domain of moral judgement.

good thing orientation isn't a preference. But religion however is a preference.

 

[Jack]

good thing orientation isn't a preference. But religion however is a preference.

What's more important than the Biblical Heaven or Hell? Oh that's right. You reject the Christian Bible.

 

[TinMan]

I don't read the New York Times or the Washington Post for the same reason. It's a waste of time.

How would you know?

In the last ten years, Dr. Fauci told the world that the vaccines were safe and effective. He told Congress that he didn't fund gain-of-function research. He told everyone to wear a mask and even two masks, even though it was well known that masks were ineffective. He devised the Covid-19 hospital protocol that resulted in mass murder.

I could confront each of these lies but you would just keep telling them wouldn't you

Don't confuse science with technology.

I am arguing from first principles. Orthodoxy is dogma backed up by an army. Those who promote ideas that disagree with the dominant paradigm are strictly punished. Many doctors who successfully treated Covid19 with ivermectin and/or hydroxycroquine lost their licenses to practice medicine. Why? The dominant paradigm was financed by the pharmaceutical industry.

I can multiply examples like this all day.

Maybe htey lost their job for giving covid patients medication for roundworm.

 

[RLT63]

No they arn't

A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.

Usually when this is brought up it is with the intention of either falsely associating a minority with people who sexually abuse children or to deny that a particular minority is somehow not one. Both aim for the justification of prejudice, discrimination, and even violence.

LGBTQ does not meet your definition of a minority - quote “A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.” Gender identity and sexual preference are not cultural, ethnic, religious or racially distinct characteristics.

 

[RLT63]

Of course, my statement was not legal but theological. Having a ‘preference’ to sin does not exempt any of us.

I agree

 

[Wrangler]

good thing orientation isn't a preference.

Word games. We are all ‘oriented’ to sin. Some sin and repent. Others suffer God’s righteous wrath.

You keep inventing ways to suggest impunity in violating Gods will. Why do you do that?

 

[RLT63]

So when you call LGBT individuals horrible names you are a cultural marxist?

Who called anyone horrible names? @Wrangler ? I missed that post.

 

[RLT63]

Actually they are a culturally distinct group. A culturally distinct group defines itself with such things as appearance, mode of dress, style, shared history, shared values, language, dialect or idioms, symbols, traditions, and/or communities. This unique culture produces a collective identity and a sense of belonging to that minority. That identity is internal and derives from inside the individual.

None of that has anything to do with gender identity or sexual orientation.

 

[RLT63]

How would you know?

I could confront each of these lies but you would just keep telling them wouldn't you

Maybe htey lost their job for giving covid patients medication for roundworm.

More should lose their jobs for giving children medication for prostate cancer that chemically castrates them

 

[RLT63]

No they arn't

A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.

Usually when this is brought up it is with the intention of either falsely associating a minority with people who sexually abuse children or to deny that a particular minority is somehow not one. Both aim for the justification of prejudice, discrimination, and even violence.

I’m not prejudiced, I don’t advocate discrimination and I certainly don’t endorse violence against anyone I just disagree with these people. I still have a right to disagree. I believe in this country people are guaranteed life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I don’t want to interfere with anyone’s pursuit of happiness whatever that may be. But I disagree with you and people like you want to take away my right to disagree.

 

[RLT63]

good thing orientation isn't a preference. But religion however is a preference.

Orientation is a preference. I prefer the opposite sex. Some people prefer the same sex. Your preference defines your orientation. You and people pushing your agenda say otherwise but orientation is defined by who you prefer.

 

[RLT63]

I sure HOPE they are! But, I wouldn't compare them to gays as, gays are consenting, and a child is NOT. It's hard for me to want to pray for them but, that is what God tells us to do.

Why are they trying so hard to push their agenda on children? In schools, libraries ,on social media, cartoons, tv shows, movies, and even comic books

 

[Wrangler]

Why are they trying so hard to push their agenda on children? In schools, libraries ,on social media, cartoons, tv shows, movies, and even comic books

He denied there is an agenda. He implies it is all organically evolving.

 

[Nancy]

Why are they trying so hard to push their agenda on children? In schools, libraries ,on social media, cartoons, tv shows, movies, and even comic books

That would be Satan behind all of it. There are militant gays out there. The ones the media love to show in the front lines, guys naked with chaps on, all kinds of debauchery. And many people who do not know better, lump them in with the more modest of them. We still have to pray for them, it's not our job to judge them but God's. They mostly do not claim Christianity, hence we are not to dare judge those "without" as nobody seems to care enough to be civil when "loving" them. Not to mention the media is chock full of sin as is the television. I have not watched TV in decades and miss it not at all. It's all emotion to spur on unclean thoughts (all that sex in the movies, outside of marriage) or to divide people. Of course, they are not true investigative reporters...they jumped ship when cable "news" came on the scene. The anchor men and women HAVE to report on what their bosses tell them.
I don't an "agenda" here, never did. I DO see where they are trying to teach them "tolerance", and that goes for lots of things in the so called "education" system. My one sister homeschooled and just had them join church groups for interaction with others of like mind.

 

[RLT63]

He denied there is an agenda. He implies it is all organically evolving.

It is an organized, relentless movement to indoctrinate children and shut down anyone who disagrees

 

[RLT63]

That would be Satan behind all of it. There are militant gays out there. The ones the media love to show in the front lines, guys naked with chaps on, all kinds of debauchery. And many people who do not know better, lump them in with the more modest of them. We still have to pray for them, it's not our job to judge them but God's. They mostly do not claim Christianity, hence we are not to dare judge those "without" as nobody seems to care enough to be civil when "loving" them. Not to mention the media is chock full of sin as is the television. I have not watched TV in decades and miss it not at all. It's all emotion to spur on unclean thoughts (all that sex in the movies, outside of marriage) or to divide people. Of course, they are not true investigative reporters...they jumped ship when cable "news" came on the scene. The anchor men and women HAVE to report on what their bosses tell them.
I don't an "agenda" here, never did. I DO see where they are trying to teach them "tolerance", and that goes for lots of things in the so called "education" system. My one sister homeschooled and just had them join church groups for interaction with others of like mind.

You can love them without approving of what they do. They don’t care what I think about their lifestyle and I wouldn’t want to push my beliefs on someone who doesn’t want to hear them. But on a Christian forum they should not expect us to accept and approve of their sin.

 

[Nancy]

You can love them without approving of what they do. They don’t care what I think about their lifestyle and I wouldn’t want to push my beliefs on someone who doesn’t want to hear them. But on a Christian forum they should not expect us to accept and approve of their sin.

"You can love them without approving of what they do." I have several nieces and nephews that are living together, like it's the norm...and it is!!! One time, not too long ago it was a disgrace, not anymore! One of my nieces has a three year old child with her childhood boyfriend. For the life of me, I cannot understand WHY they do not want to marry! sigh.

Now adays it's:
1st comes baby in a baby carriage.
Then comes marriage...or not.

Evil good
Good evil

"Come Lord Jesus, come."

 

[Wrangler]

For the life of me, I cannot understand WHY they do not want to marry! sigh.

Marriage is a culturally dead institution.