LGBTQ

[TinMan]

Like rape and other criminal, immoral behavior. Although you don’t explicitly say it, you imply ‘orientation’ claims qualify so that one may act against God’s will with impunity.

Again no pedophilia. Rape? Rape is what racists associate black people with.

 

[Wrangler]

Again no pedophilia. Rape? Rape is what racists associate black people with.

Your race card has been declined.

You cannot defend your position to support homosexual sin, plain and simple.

 

[Jack]

Murder? Not Pedophilia? Pedophilia is usually the go to lie when promoting hate.

Did you miss post #559? Are you Muslim? Atheist?

 

[TinMan]

You hate. You hate God.

I didn't just try to associate God with murder. You on the other hand did that for an entire minority. And in doing so you rejected the commandment of Jesus about loving one's neighbor. Or are you going to lie and say comparing someone to rapists and murderers is really an act of Christian love?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Homosexuality exists in all societies everywhere and at the same steady portion of the population.

So does murder.

Homosexuality does not meet even the most basic criteria for a pathology.

It meets the basic criteria for self-hatred and self-degradation.

Homosexuality does not meet even the most basic criteria for a mental illness.

Yes, it does. Only a broken psyche would engage in behavior that was antihuman, antifamily, and against the created order. Just because culture is blind to the malady doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Decades of research has found no common experience among homosexuals.

They engage in sexual activity with the wrong sex. The commonality lies there.

The traits common to homosexuals are all biological.

Human beings have freedom of the will. Thus, sexual practice is not biologically determined.

So far six genetic markers associated with homosexuality have been identified.

Homosexuality is a behavior pattern performed habitually over time, a pattern of behavior violating the created order. Any scientific paper suggesting that homosexuality has genetic markers is suspect.

Orientation is lifelong and unchanging.

Orientation is just the direction we point the ship when looking for a safe harbor. Some feel safer with their own kind.

we live in a rational and ordered universe with a staggering amount of variation. Logically speaking orientation is an innate trait and that is a matter of deduction.

Variation is irrelevant. Hammers are made for nails; screwdrivers are made for screws; bats are made for balls; golf clubs are made for golf balls; eyeglasses are made for eyes; shoes are made for feet; nuts are made for bolts; legs are made for tables; keys are made for locks and laughter is made for children.

Design, design, design, design.

 

[RLT63]

Murder? Not Pedophilia? Pedophilia is usually the go to lie when promoting hate.

Aren’t pedophiles a minority, since YOU brought it up?

 

[Wrangler]

… when promoting hate.

A typical cultural Marxist tactic.

Although you are pathetic at it as all cultural Marxist’s are once one identifies the tactics of the adversary.

Cultural Marxist’s do not defend what they advocate. Instead, they name call opponents, e.g., racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamophobe, etc. Implied is that the only way one is NOT the shaming language of the name called is to abandon the opposing view to cultural Marxism.

<YAWN>

Why you are particularly ineffective here is that we are commanded by our lord to love; love others too much to let them stay in sin but transform more into what God called us all to be and act. This makes your attacks of hate empty cultural Marxist rhetoric.

Why are you posting here @TinMan?

 

[Behold]

I didn't just try to associate God with murder. You on the other hand did that for an entire minority. And in doing so you rejected the commandment of Jesus about loving one's neighbor. Or are you going to lie and say comparing someone to rapists and murderers is really an act of Christian love?

Gays are not a minority, by definition....As They are not a culture, they are not a race, and they are not an ethnic group.

They are a type of person, who is practicing Gay (Homosexual -same gender sexuality) as a chosen lifestyle.

That this perverse sexuality that is practiced by many, is given "legal rights""' and a title, is like teaching that if you sleep in a garage you must be a Car.

Its just "banana's gone bonkers". Its. "inmates running the asylum"....

All this proves is that when evil men are elevated into cultural and social leadership roles,(Obama and Biden) then evil people are found coming out of their perverted shame and doing it with PRIDE.

 

[Wrangler]

I didn't just try to associate God with murder. You on the other hand did that for an entire minority.

So? The Bible says the majority will be annihilated. Have you ever heard of that book? The Bible.

 

[Nancy]

Aren’t pedophiles a minority, since YOU brought it up?

I sure HOPE they are! But, I wouldn't compare them to gays as, gays are consenting, and a child is NOT. It's hard for me to want to pray for them but, that is what God tells us to do.

 

[RLT63]

So does murder.

It meets the basic criteria for self-hatred and self-degradation.

Yes, it does. Only a broken psyche would engage in behavior that was antihuman, antifamily, and against the created order. Just because culture is blind to the malady doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

They engage in sexual activity with the wrong sex. The commonality lies there.

Human beings have freedom of the will. Thus, sexual practice is not biologically determined.

Homosexuality is a behavior pattern performed habitually over time, a pattern of behavior violating the created order. Any scientific paper suggesting that homosexuality has genetic markers is suspect.


Orientation is just the direction we point the ship when looking for a safe harbor. Some feel safer with their own kind.

Variation is irrelevant. Hammers are made for nails; screwdrivers are made for screws; bats are made for balls; golf clubs are made for golf balls; eyeglasses are made for eyes; shoes are made for feet; nuts are made for bolts; legs are made for tables; keys are made for locks and laughter is made for children.

Design, design, design, design.

You can drive a screw in with a hammer but that’s not how it was designed to be used. Same with homosexuality.

 

[RLT63]

I sure HOPE they are! But, I wouldn't compare them to gays as, gays are consenting, and a child is NOT. It's hard for me to want to pray for them but, that is what God tells us to do.

There are many groups I wouldn’t compare to actual minorities. Sexual preference doesn’t grant you minority status.

 

[CadyandZoe]

You keep saying i doubt what my eyes se but you won't even open your eyes.

Non-sequitur. Form follows function. If a man sleeps with another man, he wickedly suppresses knowledge of his form, function, and design, abandoning reason in favor of pleasure.

Flat earthers can do the same, but forgive me if i won't worry about falling off the edge of the planet

So you reject reason?

But you cannot show evidence for your premises.

Yeah, get used to it. Science is NOT the sole arbiter of truth. Scientific papers can be written to say anything the patron wants to hear.

 

[Wrangler]

There are many groups I wouldn’t compare to actual minorities. Sexual preference doesn’t grant you minority status.

EVEN IF Sexual preference does grant you minority status, it does not grant PROTECTED minority status.

Preferences are not protected.

And ACTIONS are the proper domain of moral judgement.

 

[CadyandZoe]

You refuse to look at it, so how do you know?

I don't read the New York Times or the Washington Post for the same reason. It's a waste of time.

And yet in the last yar or so astronomy and astro physics have been flooded with research that contradicted the basics of these fields....the scientists making the discoveries were not ostracized or rejected and there was no publication censorship. Astronomy and astrophysics are rewriting themselves based on. You are wrong about science.

In the last ten years, Dr. Fauci told the world that the vaccines were safe and effective. He told Congress that he didn't fund gain-of-function research. He told everyone to wear a mask and even two masks, even though it was well known that masks were ineffective. He devised the Covid-19 hospital protocol that resulted in mass murder.

and how many are alive now beciase of science?

Don't confuse science with technology.

You are the one arguing form orthodoxy.

I am arguing from first principles. Orthodoxy is dogma backed up by an army. Those who promote ideas that disagree with the dominant paradigm are strictly punished. Many doctors who successfully treated Covid19 with ivermectin and/or hydroxycroquine lost their licenses to practice medicine. Why? The dominant paradigm was financed by the pharmaceutical industry.

I can multiply examples like this all day.

 

[RLT63]

EVEN IF Sexual preference does grant you minority status, it does not grant PROTECTED minority status.

Preferences are not protected.

And ACTIONS are the proper domain of moral judgement.

Unfortunately the SCOTUS disagrees with us.

 

[TinMan]

So does murder.

Sadly so does bigorty

The difference being that murder and bigotry are both behaviors that people choose to engage in and both cause harm. Where as orientation is inborn

It meets the basic criteria for self-hatred and self-degradation.

And what is the criteria?
Or is this just something you made up?

Yes, it does.

No, we can go into just what a mental illness is and is not if you like.

Only a broken psyche would engage in behavior that was antihuman, antifamily, and against the created order. Just because culture is blind to the malady doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Its amazing you claim you don't hate but then you post things like this.

They engage in sexual activity with the wrong sex. The commonality lies there.

Unless they are virgins.

Human beings have freedom of the will. Thus, sexual practice is not biologically determined.

That doesn't change the fact that the traits common to homosexuals are all biological.

Homosexuality is a behavior pattern performed habitually over time,

behavior pattern is a complex arrangement of two or more responses that occur in a prescribed order. Which doesn't come close to things like romance, love and pair bonding.

a pattern of behavior violating the created order.

And yet it is part of creation. See above

Any scientific paper suggesting that homosexuality has genetic markers is suspect.

You not liking a study's findings doesn't make anything suspect.

Orientation is just the direction we point the ship when looking for a safe harbor. Some feel safer with their own kind.

Other humans?

Variation is irrelevant. Hammers are made for nails; screwdrivers are made for screws;

But people use screwdrivers to pry off the lids of paint cans and hammers to put the lids back on.

bats are made for balls;

Some people use bats when they go out gay bashing

golf clubs are made for golf balls; eyeglasses are made for eyes; shoes are made for feet; nuts are made for bolts; legs are made for tables; keys are made for locks and laughter is made for children.

Design, design, design, design.

and all of the above have multiple uses

 

[TinMan]

Aren’t pedophiles a minority, since YOU brought it up?

No they arn't

A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.

Usually when this is brought up it is with the intention of either falsely associating a minority with people who sexually abuse children or to deny that a particular minority is somehow not one. Both aim for the justification of prejudice, discrimination, and even violence.

 

[TinMan]

A typical cultural Marxist tactic.

Although you are pathetic at it as all cultural Marxist’s are once one identifies the tactics of the adversary.

Cultural Marxist’s do not defend what they advocate. Instead, they name call opponents, e.g., racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamophobe, etc. Implied is that the only way one is NOT the shaming language of the name called is to abandon the opposing view to cultural Marxism.

So when you call LGBT individuals horrible names you are a cultural marxist?

 

[Wrangler]

Unfortunately the SCOTUS disagrees with us.

Of course, my statement was not legal but theological. Having a ‘preference’ to sin does not exempt any of us.