Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

[covenantee]

God said that not a grain would fall. Do you believe him?

God said "All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us."

You don't believe Him.

 

[CadyandZoe]

You are insulted that I'm questioning if you read the passage (Acts 10:34-35) since your comments had nothing to do with anything written in the passage? It was a legitimate question to ask.

Peter's assertion should be understood in the larger context of the opening chapters of Acts, where God is teaching the Apostles that Salvation is not only granted to Jews but also to Samaritans and even Gentiles. God taught Peter that he was granting salvation to "God-fearers." The "God-fearers" were Gentiles who were attracted to the morality of the Jewish people. Although they didn't practice Judaism, they believed in the God of the Jews and supported the Jewish people financially.

How did Peter know that God was saving Gentiles as well as Jews? Peter witnessed God pouring out his Spirit on Cornelius and his family. God granted salvation to a "God-fearer," which has implications for how one comes to saving faith.

It also bears noting that the Biblical teaching on salvation involves a prior choice that God makes to save a person. God chooses whom to save and whom not to save. Remember our discussion of Romans 9? Paul argues that a person's lineage is not a prerequisite for salvation. So then, when Peter announces that God is not a respecter of persons, he is making the same claim that Paul made, that being Jewish is not a prerequisite for salvation. Peter learned that God has not restricted his choices to Jacob's lineage.

The integrity of God has always been beyond reproach; however, the question of His decision to extend salvation to Gentiles was a matter of significant debate during that time. It is essential to recognize that God made a promise to save a generation of Jacob's children, which didn't take place during the time of Peter and Paul. It would be a big mistake to conclude that God will renege on his promise to Israel taken as a nation.

God has specifically chosen Israel and its descendants to be a unique and cherished nation among all peoples. If God were to fail in fulfilling His promise to Israel, as a collective entity, it would cast doubt on His integrity and reliability as a divine being. The significance of this promise highlights the unique covenant relationship between God and Israel, emphasizing the steadfastness of God's word and character.

Sure, but for Him to be impartial would require Him to do the same for everyone. He's not going to act in such a way that contradicts His character. So, it's in line with His character to want to have mercy upon all people and that's exactly what it says in Romans 11:30-32.

Impartiality isn't his only quality. He is also faithful to his promises. And God promised to save an entire generation of Jacob's descendants. Keeping his promise to them is not a sign of impartiality.

I am talking about salvation here. You are trying to talk about something else, but I'm not interested in that. I'm talking about the fact that God is not a respecter of person in relation to salvation, according to Acts 10:34-35, so if He miraculously saved everyone in one nation, but not the rest of the nations, then that would make Him a respecter of persons.

I have a different perspective on this matter, as I elaborated previously. The idea of impartiality holds significance primarily within the framework of Justice. However, when it comes to the notion of mercy, impartiality does not apply. God possesses the ultimate authority to bestow mercy upon whomever He chooses. In this context, His decision to show compassion to a particular generation of Jacob's descendants indicates that He is not acting with impartiality. Rather, it reflects His sovereign will and the deeply personal nature of mercy, which can be selectively granted based on His purposes and desires.

If I choose to give gifts to my family and friends, I am not showing impartiality. If God choses to save an entire generation of Jacob's descendants, and he circumcises their hearts, causing them to fear him, love him, believe in him and accept his son, then he is treating them no different than he treats anyone else under those conditions.

Do you believe that when everyone in the nation of Israel repents and puts their faith in trust in Jesus Christ that they will all just happen to make that choice at the same time using their free will?

Yup. You got it.

After it previously being the case that only a small percentage of them have done so?

Yup. That is what God promised. And what is impossible for man is possible for God.

 

[CadyandZoe]

God said "All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us."

You don't believe Him.

I don't see the relevance of your statement.

 

[covenantee]

I don't see the relevance of your statement.

Nor I yours.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yup. You got it.

Yup. That is what God promised. And what is impossible for man is possible for God.

It makes no sense to say that each of them will make the choice to believe when you say it is something that God promised to happen, implying that God makes it happen. Regardless, I disagree that it will happen. Obviously.

 

[covenantee]

It makes no sense to say that each of them will make the choice to believe when you say it is something that God promised to happen, implying that God makes it happen. Regardless, I disagree that it will happen. Obviously.

He's promulgating nothing other than Jewish universalism.

And since Abraham's genome is ubiquitous in the entire human race, it's classic universalism for the entire human race.

Just classic old cultism.

 

[amigo de christo]

He's promulgating nothing other than Jewish universalism.

And since Abraham's genome is ubiquitous in the entire human race, it's classic universalism for the entire human race.

Just classic old cultism.

I must remind us that which is of anti christ has infiltrated a massive amount of even christendome itself .
So i am gonna need us to repeat after me
That interfaith is of anti christ . the false love broad road IS of anti christ . IT HAS DENIED the dire need to repent to beleive
on JESUS the CHRIST . IT has made the road broad through an inclusvie lie it calleth love and it claims is of GOD .
But no lie is of the truth . Its gonna damn them all . WE must preach no other name than JESUS the CHRIST
with the dire reminder of the aboslute need to beleive on HIM . And be teaching all things HE did say .

 

[amigo de christo]

It is effective for all who believe in Christ and that was what Jeremiah was predicting. You are completely misunderstanding the prophecy.

stand firm on it my friend . that which is of anti christ is taking whole houses and churches even captive to a lie now .
The lie is moving in fast now . So called inclusive universalism false love has taken a deep strong hold
upon the hearts of the many . Stand firm , firm , upon the true foundation of JESUS THE CHRIST and the one true gospel .
Many will merge .
You gonna witness this my friend . HECK its already began .
Muslims , christains , new agers , hindus , whateverdus
witches , rainbow holders , THEY MERGING as one under what all beleives is love and is of GOD .
IT OF THE DEVIL HIMSELF . IT is of anti christ to take the decieved that rejected the love of the truth
TO A RIDE On the train of perdition . And worse it came of CHRISTENDOM itself . HUNGRY WHORE Sold it .
The seat that adds up to SIX HUNDRED THREE SCORE , SOLD THIS TO THE WORLD . TO THE ENTIRE WORLD
to the false religions , to the protestant realm , to elites , to politicians . THIS fake love cannot be stopped
and they gonna beleive its of GOD .

 

[CadyandZoe]

Nor I yours.

Okay, then let me remind you. You claim that my interpretation of God's promise to save "each man and his neighbor" is not correct because some group claims that the concept of race is meaningless. You also object to my claim on the basis that God has punished Israel in the past.

My response to your objection concerning race is God's promise that not one grain would fall to the ground. Speaking of their exile, he likens their experience to a sorting process. The people of Israel are likened to seed placed into a sorting device. The sorting device is likened to the nations where Israel is being put in exile. And when the sorting device is vigorously shaken, not one seed falls to the ground. In other words, contrary to those who say that an Israelite can't be identified among the nations, God claims that not one Israelite will be lost after he shakes the nations vigorously.

Regarding your objection that at times God doesn't punish Israel corporately, choosing to punish a fraction of Israel instead is taken as true. Paul also makes this point in Romans chapter 9. Speaking of God's promise to save all Israel, i.e., each man and his neighbor, he asserts, "Not all Israel is Israel." Here, Paul argues that God chooses individuals from among the descendants of Jacob, confirming his choice by circumcising the heart of the Jacobite he has chosen.

He concludes his argument with a summary of God's plan for Israel. There will come a time when God will remove ungodliness from Jacob. The process will begin once all Gentile individuals God intends to save have come to saving faith in Jesus Christ. While there remains a partial hardening in Israel today, it will not always be so once God removes ungodliness from Jacob.

How will he do that? The Call will go out for everyone to come to Jerusalem to pray for the deliverance of Israel. Each person who obeys the call and comes to Jerusalem will be delivered. Those who stay behind will die in the fires God will send. Everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved. Jesus will be the pride of the survivors.

 

[Marvelloustime]

stand firm on it my friend . that which is of anti christ is taking whole houses and churches even captive to a lie now .
The lie is moving in fast now . So called inclusive universalism false love has taken a deep strong hold
upon the hearts of the many . Stand firm , firm , upon the true foundation of JESUS THE CHRIST and the one true gospel .
Many will merge .
You gonna witness this my friend . HECK its already began .
Muslims , christains , new agers , hindus , whateverdus
witches , rainbow holders , THEY MERGING as one under what all beleives is love and is of GOD .
IT OF THE DEVIL HIMSELF . IT is of anti christ to take the decieved that rejected the love of the truth
TO A RIDE On the train of perdition . And worse it came of CHRISTENDOM itself . HUNGRY WHORE Sold it .
The seat that adds up to SIX HUNDRED THREE SCORE , SOLD THIS TO THE WORLD . TO THE ENTIRE WORLD
to the false religions , to the protestant realm , to elites , to politicians . THIS fake love cannot be stopped
and they gonna beleive its of GOD .

@amigo de christo

 

[CadyandZoe]

It makes no sense to say that each of them will make the choice to believe when you say it is something that God promised to happen, implying that God makes it happen. Regardless, I disagree that it will happen. Obviously.

God makes everything to happen. The Bible is filled with statements that confirm this. For instance, Paul asserts that God is sovereign over all of our circumstances, and he is able to bring the good.

Romans 8:28-30 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.​

The passage above stands out as one of the most comforting and reassuring verses in the Bible, offering solace particularly to those who find themselves trapped in overwhelming situations. In this profound scripture, the apostle Paul illuminates the truth that God is sovereign over every aspect of our lives, including our most daunting circumstances. He encourages us to recognize that, even when we face challenges that seem impossible to overcome, God is intricately weaving these experiences into a larger tapestry for our good. This perspective invites us to trust in His divine plan and embrace the hope that emerges from our trials.

 

[covenantee]

Okay, then let me remind you. You claim that my interpretation of God's promise to save "each man and his neighbor" is not correct because some group claims that the concept of race is meaningless. You also object to my claim on the basis that God has punished Israel in the past.

My response to your objection concerning race is God's promise that not one grain would fall to the ground. Speaking of their exile, he likens their experience to a sorting process. The people of Israel are likened to seed placed into a sorting device. The sorting device is likened to the nations where Israel is being put in exile. And when the sorting device is vigorously shaken, not one seed falls to the ground. In other words, contrary to those who say that an Israelite can't be identified among the nations, God claims that not one Israelite will be lost after he shakes the nations vigorously.

Regarding your objection that at times God doesn't punish Israel corporately, choosing to punish a fraction of Israel instead is taken as true. Paul also makes this point in Romans chapter 9. Speaking of God's promise to save all Israel, i.e., each man and his neighbor, he asserts, "Not all Israel is Israel." Here, Paul argues that God chooses individuals from among the descendants of Jacob, confirming his choice by circumcising the heart of the Jacobite he has chosen.

He concludes his argument with a summary of God's plan for Israel. There will come a time when God will remove ungodliness from Jacob. The process will begin once all Gentile individuals God intends to save have come to saving faith in Jesus Christ. While there remains a partial hardening in Israel today, it will not always be so once God removes ungodliness from Jacob.

How will he do that? The Call will go out for everyone to come to Jerusalem to pray for the deliverance of Israel. Each person who obeys the call and comes to Jerusalem will be delivered. Those who stay behind will die in the fires God will send. Everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved. Jesus will be the pride of the survivors.

Isaiah 65
11 But ye are they that forsake the Lord, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.

What happened to those grains?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Isaiah 65
11 But ye are they that forsake the Lord, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.

What happened to those grains?

Why raise a random passage?