It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

[WPM]

The prince in Daniel 9:26 is unknown at this time.

Says who?

 

[The Light]

Says who?

Well, unknown to most at this time.

 

[covenantee]

The prince in Daniel 9:26 is unknown at this time.

We know who the people of the prince are.

But you don't know who the prince is?

 

[The Light]

We know who the people of the prince are.

But you don't know who the prince is?

You have no clue who the people of the prince are.

 

[covenantee]

You have no clue who the people of the prince are.

You've been telling us that it's the Romans, who destroyed the city and sanctuary.

 

[The Light]

You've been telling us that it's the Romans, who destroyed the city and sanctuary.

You attempted to provide proof that Jews destroyed their own city of Jerusalem and the second Temple. From your own article of proof, I showed you where it was the Romans that destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple.

The people of the prince that shall come that destroy the city of Jerusalem and the Temple are referring to a future event..........the destruction of the not yet built 3rd Temple where the Antichrist will declare himself God.

 

[covenantee]

You attempted to provide proof that Jews destroyed their own city of Jerusalem and the second Temple. From your own article of proof, I showed you where it was the Romans that destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple.

The people of the prince that shall come that destroy the city of Jerusalem and the Temple are referring to a future event..........the destruction of the not yet built 3rd Temple where the Antichrist will declare himself God.

The people of the prince who destroyed the city and sanctuary were the Romans, so the prince was the prince of the Romans.

Who do think the prince was?

It happened in 70 AD. Nothing future about it.

 

[WPM]

You attempted to provide proof that Jews destroyed their own city of Jerusalem and the second Temple. From your own article of proof, I showed you where it was the Romans that destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple.

The people of the prince that shall come that destroy the city of Jerusalem and the Temple are referring to a future event..........the destruction of the not yet built 3rd Temple where the Antichrist will declare himself God.

Give us NT Scripture for the building of a 3rd temple? For what purpose? The temple under the new covenant is always spiritual.

 

[Keraz]

Give us NT Scripture for the building of a 3rd temple? For what purpose? The temple under the new covenant is always spiritual.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 plainly says there will be a new Temple dedicated to God. It is inferred to elsewhere in the NT, but many Prophesies in the Old Testament confirm there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem, during the end times.

Your extreme bias and forceful attitude is an indictment against you, for promoting false theories.

 

[covenantee]

2 Thessalonians 2:4 plainly says there will be a new Temple dedicated to God. It is inferred to elsewhere in the NT, but many Prophesies in the Old Testament confirm there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem, during the end times.

Your extreme bias and forceful attitude is an indictment against you, for promoting false theories.

Paul was consistent in distinguishing between spiritual and physical temples.

Paul's temples:

"naos" spiritual:

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
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Greek

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
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Greek

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
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Greek

2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
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Greek

Ephesians 2:21-22
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
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22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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Greek

"eidóleion" physical:

1 Corinthians 8:10
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
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Greek

"hieros/hieron" physical:

1 Corinthians 9:13
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
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Greek

 

[WPM]

Your extreme bias and forceful attitude is an indictment against you, for promoting false theories.

More projection!

 

[David in NJ]

You attempted to provide proof that Jews destroyed their own city of Jerusalem and the second Temple. From your own article of proof, I showed you where it was the Romans that destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple.

The people of the prince that shall come that destroy the city of Jerusalem and the Temple are referring to a future event..........the destruction of the not yet built 3rd Temple where the Antichrist will declare himself God.

Hello Brother,

Have you read the Noah/Flood account lately???

Read Genesis chapters 5 thru 8

 

[Keraz]

Paul was consistent in distinguishing between spiritual and physical temples.

Paul's temples:

"naos" spiritual:

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

Ephesians 2:21-22
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

"eidóleion" physical:

1 Corinthians 8:10
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

"hieros/hieron" physical:

1 Corinthians 9:13
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

This load of repeatedly repeated bumf, does not in any way preclude the building of a new Temple in Jerusalem. As is definitely and plainly Prophesied.

 

[David in NJ]

Paul was consistent in distinguishing between spiritual and physical temples.

Paul's temples:

"naos" spiritual:

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

Ephesians 2:21-22
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

"eidóleion" physical:

1 Corinthians 8:10
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

"hieros/hieron" physical:

1 Corinthians 9:13
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Greek

Don't forget about this - 1 Peter 2:4-8

Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture,

“Behold, I lay in Zion
A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”
7Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient,

“The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone,”
8and

“A stone of stumbling
And a rock of offense.”
They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.

 

[covenantee]

This load of repeatedly repeated bumf, does not in any way preclude the building of a new Temple in Jerusalem. As is definitely and plainly Prophesied.

I'll take Paul's bumf over yours.

Every time.

 

[David in NJ]

I'll take Paul's bumf over yours.

Every time.

me too

 

[David in NJ]

This load of repeatedly repeated bumf, does not in any way preclude the building of a new Temple in Jerusalem. As is definitely and plainly Prophesied.

They may build a new Temple in Jerusalem = for the Antichrist

 

[The Light]

The people of the prince who destroyed the city and sanctuary were the Romans, so the prince was the prince of the Romans.

Contrary to popular opinion, there is still one stone upon another in the buildings of the Temple.

Luke 21
6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?

If there is not one stone upon another, what sign was there when these things came to pass.

Who do think the prince was?

Has not happened.

It happened in 70 AD. Nothing future about it.

Sorry. If it happened, what sign was there when these things came to pass.

 

[covenantee]

Contrary to popular opinion, there is still one stone upon another in the buildings of the Temple.

The JVL, which you quoted, confirms that the Romans destroyed the physical city and sanctuary.

The temple was destroyed. Only the western "wailing" wall was left standing.

"When the Romans razed the Second Temple, they left one outer wall standing. They probably would have destroyed that wall as well, but it must have seemed too insignificant to them since it was not part of the Temple itself, just a retaining wall surrounding the Temple Mount."

 

[Keraz]

They may build a new Temple in Jerusalem = for the Antichrist

A actual understanding of the new Temple, which many here, just do not have; shows that it will be dedicated to God, proved by how the 'beast' desecrates it.

If you had any moral fortitude, you would withdraw your foolish assertion above and the silly comments about me.