MORE PROOF OF THE PRETRIB RAPTURE

[WPM]

14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts

Of course you can not see it plainly written.
Nothing of your sentences rebuttals anything I posted.

These are in heaven now! Hello! The firstfruits has already occurred. It was the early Church Jews. The harvest has been coming in for 2000 years.

 

[WPM]

14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts

Of course you can not see it plainly written.
Nothing of your sentences rebuttals anything I posted.

This is not a local or limited harvest. This is an all-inclusive global harvest of the earth. Only a bias observer would think otherwise.

• This is indeed “the harvest of the earth” (Revelation 14:15), not of small Israel.
• The “sickle” is “thrust” in “on the earth,” (Revelation 14:15), not just physical Israel.
• This results in “the earth” being “reaped” (Revelation 14:16)
• Christ gathers “the vine of the earth” (Revelation 14:18), not ethnic Israel.

 

[Atarah]

The pre-trib rapture has a purpose. That purpose has to do with God's covenant with Israel and the end of the time of Gentiles, as described in Rapture with Purpose

 

[WPM]

The pre-trib rapture has a purpose. That purpose has to do with God's covenant with Israel and the end of the time of Gentiles, as described in Rapture with Purpose

Really? How about actually giving Scripture instead of giving private opinion!

And, I'm not interested in outside links, other mens faulty opinions or outside videos. Please address my query and Op if you can.

 

[covenantee]

The pre-trib rapture has a purpose. That purpose has to do with God's covenant with Israel and the end of the time of Gentiles, as described in Rapture with Purpose

Isaiah 10
22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

Romans 9
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

God's Covenant with Israel is with His remnant i.e. those who are in Christ and faithful and obedient to Him.

No others.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Really? How about actually giving Scripture instead of giving private opinion!

And, I'm not interested in outside links, other mens faulty opinions or outside videos. Please address my query and Op if you can.

Maybe he read romans 9-11 and understands it.
Maybe he saw where Jesus said Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles is complete. (Which your Doctrine has no such provision for either one of those dimensions)

 

[Atarah]

Really? How about actually giving Scripture instead of giving private opinion!

And, I'm not interested in outside links, other mens faulty opinions or outside videos. Please address my query and Op if you can.

That link represents my research. I wanted the Bible to speak to me, not make the Bible agree with me...

 

[David in NJ]

These are in heaven now! Hello! The firstfruits has already occurred. It was the early Church Jews. The harvest has been coming in for 2000 years.

The firstfruits has already occurred.

FALSE

It was the early Church Jews.

FALSE

The harvest has been coming in for 2000 years.

100% TRUTH

 

[David in NJ]

That link represents my research. I wanted the Bible to speak to me, not make the Bible agree with me...

God has finished speaking in His Word = the Holy Scriptures = the Bible

God NEVER said pre-trib rapture = it cannot be found anywhere in the Bible =

Right now you are listening to men who seek honor from one another.

 

[WPM]

That link represents my research. I wanted the Bible to speak to me, not make the Bible agree with me...

Present your Scripture

 

[WPM]

FALSE


FALSE


100% TRUTH

So, it is false because you said it?

 

[David in NJ]

So, it is false because you said it?

It's is false because it is not in the Scriptures as you claim.

 

[WPM]

It's is false because it is not in the Scriptures as you claim.

You proved nothing biblically.

 

[David in NJ]

You proved nothing biblically.

Well you just substantiated my factual statements and truth = thank you

 

[WPM]

Well you just substantiated my factual statements and truth = thank you

You have proved nothing but you are unwilling or incapable of presenting a biblical argument.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Not a single word, declaration or prophecy from God in His Holy Scriptures that says: pre-trib rapture

13But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

15For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18Therefore comfort one another with these words.

Noah gathered pretrib
Lot gathered pretrib
One taken/left gathered pretrib.
Not a single verse pointing to any of those groups of Gods people GATHERED in or AFTER ANY TRIB.

IN FACT JESUS SAID NORMAL LIFE AND COMMERCE BEFORE THE GATHERING.
Stop misrepresenting Gods word

 

[rebuilder 454]

God has finished speaking in His Word = the Holy Scriptures = the Bible

God NEVER said pre-trib rapture = it cannot be found anywhere in the Bible =

Right now you are listening to men who seek honor from one another.

Wow.
What a special Bible you must have. A Bible that says Noah was gathered After the flood.
lot was gathered after Sodom burned, and the one Taken/one left, corrected to actually read ,"and after the flood so shall it be in the coming of the son of man", (where we have one taken one left after the flood). Nope you just flat out lied the whole world can see it

 

[WPM]

Noah gathered pretrib
Lot gathered pretrib
One taken/left gathered pretrib.
Not a single verse pointing to any of those groups of Gods people GATHERED in or AFTER ANY TRIB.

IN FACT JESUS SAID NORMAL LIFE AND COMMERCE BEFORE THE GATHERING.
Stop misrepresenting Gods word

Do you thinking if you keep repeating this error that it will somehow become the truth?

What trib was Noah delivered from? What has that to do with your imaginary future 7-year trib?