I think that almost all of them were weren't they? I don't think anyone can get into the position without it.
Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?
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I think that almost all of them were weren't they? I don't think anyone can get into the position without it.
Here is an article by Pastor Chuck Baldwin if anyone is interested. I tend to believe that he may be onto something especially at first blush: why are Christians supporting a Nation that flies Satan's star? That really scares me. But there is still much I don't know so I'm stepping carefully.
Chuck Baldwin Destroys Christian Zionism and Perpetual Wars – Veterans Today | Military Foreign Affairs Policy Journal for Clandestine Services
Chuck Baldwin Destroys Christian Zionism and Perpetual Wars – Veterans Today | Military Foreign Affairs Policy Journal for Clandestine Services
I'll post Chuck Baldwin's latest message:
Christian Zionists Returning Bethlehem To The Days Of Herod
Published: Thursday, December 5, 2019
Download free computerized mp3 audio file of this column
As we enter the Christmas season, we love listening to traditional Christmas hymns, such as O Little Town Of Bethlehem. The place of Christ’s birth holds a special place in the hearts of all Christians. The references to Bethlehem in both the lyrics of Christian hymns and sermons of Christian ministers are almost ubiquitous at this time of the year.
When Christ was born in Bethlehem, the little city (and all of Palestine) was under the brutal control of King Herod, who was a proxy potentate of Pontius Pilate and the Roman government. The Herod dynasty became one of the most brutal, bloodthirsty dynasties in world history. The Herods were arguably even more evil than the Caesars—if that’s possible. Jesus, the light of the world, was born in the darkest of places and during the darkest of times.
Under the grotesque, genocidal leadership of the Caesars, Herods, Jewish Pharisees, Scribes, rabbis, etc., the followers of Jesus Christ experienced some of the most horrendous harassment in human history. They were starved, beaten, stoned, clubbed, imprisoned and killed—until the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
After the destruction of Talmudic—and later Roman—domination, Christians thrived in Bethlehem and the rest of Palestine. Contrary to modern anti-Muslim propaganda, Christians and Muslims mostly lived peacefully side by side throughout greater Palestinia in the centuries following the demise of the devilish dynasties of the Herods and the Caesars (including the Byzantine emperors). Without a doubt, the Talmudists and Romanists inflicted the greatest amount of death and destruction upon the followers of Christ than all other entities combined.
When the Zionist State of Israel was created in 1948, the Christian population of Bethlehem (and, yes, Nazareth, Jesus’ hometown as a boy) was 80%. That’s right, 80%. Since the advent of the Apartheid State of Israel, however, the Christian population of Bethlehem is now 12%. In the State of Israel itself, the Christian population has been reduced from 21% to 2%. Rev. Drew Christiansen rightly calls this an “ethnic cleansing.” Indeed it is.
Along with other Palestinians in the West Bank, Christians face land seizures, arbitrary detentions and collective punishment that are part and parcel of the Israeli occupation.
The report continues:
[A Bethlehem pastor’s wife] Rudaina [Isaac] believes that American evangelicals who form a vital base of support for hard-line Israeli policies — and helped propel President Donald Trump to power — have made the local Palestinian Christian community's suffering more acute.
“If we are sisters and brothers in Christ — they [America’s Christians] should understand,” she says. “They want Jews to control this land, but Christ came for all the nations.”
Her pastor-husband said pointedly:
"We are secondary to Christians in America. These Christians [in America] do not think about or care about us.”
The pastor and his wife are absolutely right.
Christians in the Palestinian West Bank cite,
“The pressure of Israeli occupation, ongoing constraints, discriminatory policies, arbitrary arrests, confiscation of lands [and a] general sense of hopelessness among Palestinian Christians.” Furthermore, Palestinian Christians see only “a despairing situation where they can no longer perceive a future for their offspring or themselves.”
The pastor and his wife—along with all of the other Christians in Palestine—are living with the calamitous consequences of the destructive doctrines of Christian Zionism in the United States.
The false teachings of John Darby and C. I. Scofield spawned scores of Zionist-indoctrinated Christian colleges and seminaries such as Dallas Theological Seminary and Liberty University—and most Baptist, Pentecostal and Charismatic colleges in America. These colleges and seminaries have produced tens of thousands of pastors, radio preachers, televangelists, Bible teachers, etc., who have immersed America’s churches in the false doctrines of Christian Zionism.
The election of Donald Trump has only intensified and multiplied the enslaving power and influence of Christian Zionism. The biggest reason evangelical Christians support Trump is due to his rabid endorsement of Zionist Israel. But for the Christians who live in Palestine, Trump and the evangelicals who support him are only making life harder.
A Christian from Haifi said,
“These so-called Christians are causing us more damage than help — they understand the Middle East as much as I understand Micronesia.”
Christian Zionists Returning Bethlehem To The Days Of Herod
Published: Thursday, December 5, 2019
Download free computerized mp3 audio file of this column
As we enter the Christmas season, we love listening to traditional Christmas hymns, such as O Little Town Of Bethlehem. The place of Christ’s birth holds a special place in the hearts of all Christians. The references to Bethlehem in both the lyrics of Christian hymns and sermons of Christian ministers are almost ubiquitous at this time of the year.
When Christ was born in Bethlehem, the little city (and all of Palestine) was under the brutal control of King Herod, who was a proxy potentate of Pontius Pilate and the Roman government. The Herod dynasty became one of the most brutal, bloodthirsty dynasties in world history. The Herods were arguably even more evil than the Caesars—if that’s possible. Jesus, the light of the world, was born in the darkest of places and during the darkest of times.
Under the grotesque, genocidal leadership of the Caesars, Herods, Jewish Pharisees, Scribes, rabbis, etc., the followers of Jesus Christ experienced some of the most horrendous harassment in human history. They were starved, beaten, stoned, clubbed, imprisoned and killed—until the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
After the destruction of Talmudic—and later Roman—domination, Christians thrived in Bethlehem and the rest of Palestine. Contrary to modern anti-Muslim propaganda, Christians and Muslims mostly lived peacefully side by side throughout greater Palestinia in the centuries following the demise of the devilish dynasties of the Herods and the Caesars (including the Byzantine emperors). Without a doubt, the Talmudists and Romanists inflicted the greatest amount of death and destruction upon the followers of Christ than all other entities combined.
When the Zionist State of Israel was created in 1948, the Christian population of Bethlehem (and, yes, Nazareth, Jesus’ hometown as a boy) was 80%. That’s right, 80%. Since the advent of the Apartheid State of Israel, however, the Christian population of Bethlehem is now 12%. In the State of Israel itself, the Christian population has been reduced from 21% to 2%. Rev. Drew Christiansen rightly calls this an “ethnic cleansing.” Indeed it is.
Along with other Palestinians in the West Bank, Christians face land seizures, arbitrary detentions and collective punishment that are part and parcel of the Israeli occupation.
The report continues:
[A Bethlehem pastor’s wife] Rudaina [Isaac] believes that American evangelicals who form a vital base of support for hard-line Israeli policies — and helped propel President Donald Trump to power — have made the local Palestinian Christian community's suffering more acute.
“If we are sisters and brothers in Christ — they [America’s Christians] should understand,” she says. “They want Jews to control this land, but Christ came for all the nations.”
Her pastor-husband said pointedly:
"We are secondary to Christians in America. These Christians [in America] do not think about or care about us.”
The pastor and his wife are absolutely right.
Christians in the Palestinian West Bank cite,
“The pressure of Israeli occupation, ongoing constraints, discriminatory policies, arbitrary arrests, confiscation of lands [and a] general sense of hopelessness among Palestinian Christians.” Furthermore, Palestinian Christians see only “a despairing situation where they can no longer perceive a future for their offspring or themselves.”
The pastor and his wife—along with all of the other Christians in Palestine—are living with the calamitous consequences of the destructive doctrines of Christian Zionism in the United States.
The false teachings of John Darby and C. I. Scofield spawned scores of Zionist-indoctrinated Christian colleges and seminaries such as Dallas Theological Seminary and Liberty University—and most Baptist, Pentecostal and Charismatic colleges in America. These colleges and seminaries have produced tens of thousands of pastors, radio preachers, televangelists, Bible teachers, etc., who have immersed America’s churches in the false doctrines of Christian Zionism.
The election of Donald Trump has only intensified and multiplied the enslaving power and influence of Christian Zionism. The biggest reason evangelical Christians support Trump is due to his rabid endorsement of Zionist Israel. But for the Christians who live in Palestine, Trump and the evangelicals who support him are only making life harder.
A Christian from Haifi said,
“These so-called Christians are causing us more damage than help — they understand the Middle East as much as I understand Micronesia.”
Popular Christian Zionists such as Pat Robertson, Robert Jeffress, Jerry Falwell Jr., Kenneth Copeland, Paula White, Franklin Graham, et al. are making it easier for Islamic radicals to recruit anti-Christian extremists. Every American bomb dropped on innocent Muslim people, every drone attack, every missile attack, every joint CIA and Mossad assassination and act of military aggression increasingly puts the lives of Arab Christians in mortal danger. And all of this is due entirely to the flagrantly false teachings of Christian Zionism. I’ll say it straight out: These Christian Zionist warmongering preachers in the United States have the blood of untold thousands of Arab Christians dripping from their pulpits.
Robert Jeffress, the influential pastor of the 13,000-member First Baptist church in Dallas and a spiritual adviser to Trump, explains evangelicals' stalwart support of Israel this way: “The Bible says this land belongs to the Jewish people — period."
Jeffress’ statement is quintessential Christian Zionist propaganda and is a gross misinterpretation of Scripture.
To further illustrate the extreme insensitivity that resides in the hearts of Christian Zionists toward Palestinian Christians, Jeffress said, "If they [Palestinian Christians] do not want to continue to live under that arrangement [Israeli occupation and persecution], perhaps some need to go someplace else.”
Can you imagine any pastor saying anything of this nature about persecuted Jews living in Nazi Germany? Yet, this celebrated Christian pastor says this about his fellow Christians living under Nazi-like persecution in the Zionist State of Israel? Such hardness of heart staggers the imagination.
I tell you, Christian Zionism is a vile, wicked distortion of Holy Scripture.
The last time I was in Israel, I spoke in Baptist churches in both Bethlehem and Jerusalem. While there, I discovered that 99% of the Christians in those churches were Palestinians. Furthermore, I found the Palestinian Christians to be among the sweetest, kindest and warmest people I have ever met. I can only assume Mr. Jeffress hasn’t met the Palestinian Christians I met, or he couldn’t say such a thing.
Vice President Mike Pence, who claims to be an evangelical Catholic Christian, was warmly greeted by the Israeli government not long ago and invited to speak before Israel’s Parliament, the Knesset. However, the heads of the established Christian churches refused to meet with him during his trip. They know that he, Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo are no friends of the Palestinian Christians.
This report from Christians in Palestine notes:
Included in the array of Palestinian Christian complaints is that Israeli walls and checkpoints have cut them off from their own kinsmen and business opportunities in communities and cities on the West Bank, but more especially from their holy sites, even including Easter services in Jerusalem and Bethlehem. On one recent Easter, the Israelis granted only 200 permits to Christians to visit Bethlehem, and only to those who were 55 years or older. No visits, per the Chronicle report, were permitted to Jerusalem. In effect, many Palestinian Christians believe it is Israel’s intention to drive them out so that Israel can define itself, according to the Palestine Chronicle, “as a beleaguered Jewish state amid a massive Muslim population in the Middle East. The continued existence of Palestinian Christians does not factor nicely into this Israeli agenda.”
A poignant statement from the Christian Post perfectly captures for American evangelicals the dilemma of Palestinian Christians: “When Americans sing carols about the ‘Little Town of Bethlehem’ this Christmas, they should keep in mind who lives there.” Reinforcing this point is found in another quote from Bethlehem’s mayor, Vera Baboun: “Bethlehem is the city that gave the message of peace to the whole world…But today, Bethlehem does not live the peace that it gave to the whole world.”
At issue in this story is the fact that many evangelical Christians are conservative, aligning with a view that puts Israel’s security above all other priorities. This support blinds them to the issues confronting Palestinian Christians. The Christian Post writes about American evangelicals, suggesting that in “missing the complexity of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, they are missing an opportunity to live out the message of peace that Jesus, born in Bethlehem, gave to the world.”
Amen and Amen!
When the Lord Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem—and lived as an adult in nearby Galilee—the governmental powers persecuted anyone who claimed the name of Christian. They were “the days of Herod.”
After the destruction of Herod’s Temple, however, the power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ saturated the land of Palestine, and for hundreds of years in many parts of Palestine—such as in Bethlehem—Christians lived peacefully in the light of Christ. But today, the blind, unbiblical obsession with the Aparteid State of Israel by America’s Christian Zionists is returning Bethlehem to the dark, dangerous days of Herod.
P.S. We are still shipping the Christmas printing of THE FREEDOM DOCUMENTS.
This unique compilation of America's greatest documents is available nowhere else. It is an excellent resource for high school and college students—as well as homeschoolers.
Pastors, teachers, attorneys and judges have purchased THE FREEDOM DOCUMENTS with extreme satisfaction. The Tennessee State Supreme Court also ordered several copies of THE FREEDOM DOCUMENTS. Plus, a Montana county sheriff recently ordered copies for each of his deputies. I believe you will be just as pleased as they are with this wonderful compilation of American documents.
You can have these great documents at your fingertips in one beautifully bound, easy-to-read format. These are the documents that gave birth to the greatest free nation on earth. Again, nowhere else can you find these documents complete in one volume under one title.
Remember, this is a special, limited Christmas printing and will not last long. Plus, a delay in ordering may result in the books not arriving before Christmas. So, order now.
ORDER THE FREEDOM DOCUMENTS HERE.
© Chuck Baldwin
Robert Jeffress, the influential pastor of the 13,000-member First Baptist church in Dallas and a spiritual adviser to Trump, explains evangelicals' stalwart support of Israel this way: “The Bible says this land belongs to the Jewish people — period."
Jeffress’ statement is quintessential Christian Zionist propaganda and is a gross misinterpretation of Scripture.
To further illustrate the extreme insensitivity that resides in the hearts of Christian Zionists toward Palestinian Christians, Jeffress said, "If they [Palestinian Christians] do not want to continue to live under that arrangement [Israeli occupation and persecution], perhaps some need to go someplace else.”
Can you imagine any pastor saying anything of this nature about persecuted Jews living in Nazi Germany? Yet, this celebrated Christian pastor says this about his fellow Christians living under Nazi-like persecution in the Zionist State of Israel? Such hardness of heart staggers the imagination.
I tell you, Christian Zionism is a vile, wicked distortion of Holy Scripture.
The last time I was in Israel, I spoke in Baptist churches in both Bethlehem and Jerusalem. While there, I discovered that 99% of the Christians in those churches were Palestinians. Furthermore, I found the Palestinian Christians to be among the sweetest, kindest and warmest people I have ever met. I can only assume Mr. Jeffress hasn’t met the Palestinian Christians I met, or he couldn’t say such a thing.
Vice President Mike Pence, who claims to be an evangelical Catholic Christian, was warmly greeted by the Israeli government not long ago and invited to speak before Israel’s Parliament, the Knesset. However, the heads of the established Christian churches refused to meet with him during his trip. They know that he, Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo are no friends of the Palestinian Christians.
This report from Christians in Palestine notes:
Included in the array of Palestinian Christian complaints is that Israeli walls and checkpoints have cut them off from their own kinsmen and business opportunities in communities and cities on the West Bank, but more especially from their holy sites, even including Easter services in Jerusalem and Bethlehem. On one recent Easter, the Israelis granted only 200 permits to Christians to visit Bethlehem, and only to those who were 55 years or older. No visits, per the Chronicle report, were permitted to Jerusalem. In effect, many Palestinian Christians believe it is Israel’s intention to drive them out so that Israel can define itself, according to the Palestine Chronicle, “as a beleaguered Jewish state amid a massive Muslim population in the Middle East. The continued existence of Palestinian Christians does not factor nicely into this Israeli agenda.”
A poignant statement from the Christian Post perfectly captures for American evangelicals the dilemma of Palestinian Christians: “When Americans sing carols about the ‘Little Town of Bethlehem’ this Christmas, they should keep in mind who lives there.” Reinforcing this point is found in another quote from Bethlehem’s mayor, Vera Baboun: “Bethlehem is the city that gave the message of peace to the whole world…But today, Bethlehem does not live the peace that it gave to the whole world.”
At issue in this story is the fact that many evangelical Christians are conservative, aligning with a view that puts Israel’s security above all other priorities. This support blinds them to the issues confronting Palestinian Christians. The Christian Post writes about American evangelicals, suggesting that in “missing the complexity of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, they are missing an opportunity to live out the message of peace that Jesus, born in Bethlehem, gave to the world.”
Amen and Amen!
When the Lord Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem—and lived as an adult in nearby Galilee—the governmental powers persecuted anyone who claimed the name of Christian. They were “the days of Herod.”
After the destruction of Herod’s Temple, however, the power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ saturated the land of Palestine, and for hundreds of years in many parts of Palestine—such as in Bethlehem—Christians lived peacefully in the light of Christ. But today, the blind, unbiblical obsession with the Aparteid State of Israel by America’s Christian Zionists is returning Bethlehem to the dark, dangerous days of Herod.
P.S. We are still shipping the Christmas printing of THE FREEDOM DOCUMENTS.
This unique compilation of America's greatest documents is available nowhere else. It is an excellent resource for high school and college students—as well as homeschoolers.
Pastors, teachers, attorneys and judges have purchased THE FREEDOM DOCUMENTS with extreme satisfaction. The Tennessee State Supreme Court also ordered several copies of THE FREEDOM DOCUMENTS. Plus, a Montana county sheriff recently ordered copies for each of his deputies. I believe you will be just as pleased as they are with this wonderful compilation of American documents.
You can have these great documents at your fingertips in one beautifully bound, easy-to-read format. These are the documents that gave birth to the greatest free nation on earth. Again, nowhere else can you find these documents complete in one volume under one title.
Remember, this is a special, limited Christmas printing and will not last long. Plus, a delay in ordering may result in the books not arriving before Christmas. So, order now.
ORDER THE FREEDOM DOCUMENTS HERE.
© Chuck Baldwin
Here is another brain twister for you:
John Paul stoked my curiosity when he remarked on some Presidents being Freemasons so I looked it up and found that ever single President is related:
12 year old discovers every President is related: 12-Year-Old Discovers Every US President is Related, Except for One...
Excerpt:
"Reality be told, when a person checks out the household members of the royals, one by one it can be observed that they belong to a wide variety of suspicious and disturbing secret societies, fraternal orders, and apparently “coincidental” auspicious seats of power."
* this is why I do not believe that an "independent" can get into power.
John Paul stoked my curiosity when he remarked on some Presidents being Freemasons so I looked it up and found that ever single President is related:
12 year old discovers every President is related: 12-Year-Old Discovers Every US President is Related, Except for One...
Excerpt:
"Reality be told, when a person checks out the household members of the royals, one by one it can be observed that they belong to a wide variety of suspicious and disturbing secret societies, fraternal orders, and apparently “coincidental” auspicious seats of power."
* this is why I do not believe that an "independent" can get into power.
Stan B
Well-Known Member
It is called the Abrahamic Covenant, which was passed on from Abraham to Isaac to Jacob and his descendants:
The Lord said to Abram,
“Go forth from your country,
And from your relatives
And from your father’s house,
To the land which I will show you;
And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
3 And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”
Genesis 12
It is an eternal covenant which never expires.
My former point.
"Jews" are a particular group of people with a disannuled religious system attached to a people God has brought back to a land to which He will return and save.
Their denial of Christ as the messiah is just like any gentile sinner that God saves by grace.
Most Christians that love Jesus Christ used to use His name as a swear word.
The rabbi's don't even do that....sin is sin.
God is reassembling these Jewish(Abrahamic descendants) sinners to save them per this....
Jer 31...
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
In which we, get only a preview of their promise per this(only this portion).....
Hebrews 10.....
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Notice carefully, the author of Hebrews just included us in the church age, to this very small but significant portion of future national Israel's promise to the fathers.
We do not in any way take their future millenial promise, but are INCLUDED in it, pre-millenial.
What I am saying is this Holy Ghost infilling we are enjoying is a PRE-MILLENIAL experience.
We(church age) are actually in what should be considered, "pre-millenial".
Any "Jew" of "Gentile' today, no matter how they think or what religious signs they demonstrate, can be adopted into this experience by the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
LOL!
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
They(we) just assist the ruling King.
The saints shall judge the millennial world.
Jesus will be the lone King(ruler).
No plague for me.
Think of it as a Theocracy on earth, with representatives(judges) under the lone Authority.
Not "lone King" but King of kings. God has made His children kings and priests -- a Royal Priesthood. So these kings are under the King of kings, and David is Prince over Israel under Christ. At the same time the twelve apostles will be on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And Jacob's name was changed to Israel, because he was deemed a prince with God.
I think folks should take a step back and be amazed at what God has done in reestablishing national Israel in these last days.
Just thing about this a minute.
The very reason that Jesus could not return in the beginning of His Millennial reign is there was nobody to return to per His promise to the fathers.
For 2000 years, the preacher taught "Jesus is coming", with no Israel to come to in the back of his mind.
This developed into preterism.
This also developed into replacement theology.
Well, Israel is finally there now....they can put down all of their silly pet doctrines.
Just thing about this a minute.
The very reason that Jesus could not return in the beginning of His Millennial reign is there was nobody to return to per His promise to the fathers.
For 2000 years, the preacher taught "Jesus is coming", with no Israel to come to in the back of his mind.
This developed into preterism.
This also developed into replacement theology.
Well, Israel is finally there now....they can put down all of their silly pet doctrines.
Stan B
Well-Known Member
The six-pointed star represents Satan, not the Star of David.
The Hexagram equates to 666, which Jesus said is the sign of the beast.
It has six points, forms six equilateral triangles, and its interior forms a six-sided hexagon — thus it reveals the number of Satan’s antichrist beast.
A total fantasy created by someone who has too much time on their hands, and total nonsense. The important thing is to discover what the Bible has to say about this. Nothing!
The six pointed star is no more evil than the Stars and Stripes!!!
Stan B
Well-Known Member
That is total nonsense!! The Roman Catholic Church has nothing whatsoever to do with Israel. Israel has a people elected democratic government.
The Jewish Rothschild family did indeed fund early Israeli settlements, even before the Balfour Declaration. Must have pissed off Satan immensely!!!
Zionism is clearly God's plan for this present age, as confirmed by Ezekiel.
Bobby Jo
Well-Known Member
If what you say were true, then you'd already know that the Book of Daniel is not ancient, -- it's modern --, and you'd know where we are prophetically. But you don't, and you apparently don't care what GOD has for YOU and the CHURCH.
Furthermore, we are given Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, and Teachers. Are you ALL of these? Do you encompass ALL of the Body of the Christ? Are you FULLY SELF SUFFICIENT? -- I think not.
To presume and then argue you are ALL of this, demonstrates that you are VERY LITTLE of this.
Perhaps we ALL need each other's gifts and ministries to be COMPLETE.
Bobby Jo
Bobby Jo
Well-Known Member
I see you corrected your assertion which is good, and why we work together to bring us into a more full TRUTH! :)
Bobby Jo
Stan B
Well-Known Member
From my perspective, a 2500 year-old book is ancient. The point you are attempting to make eludes me.
Bobby Jo
Well-Known Member
A LOT of things "elude" you. It happens. It happens more often when you become set in you ways, and the REAL WORLD is different that you anticipate, but you can't comprehend how to respond.
Have you considered that the "problem" is not with the WORLD, but rather with YOUR VIEWS?
I can help explain what Scripture and History provide, but I don't think I can help you understand.
Bobby Jo
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