Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

[brightfame52]

They were born dead. and needed to be born again

Your going against the very words of Jesus man.. Give this up...

They were born legally Justified, sanctified, redeemed, had nothing to do with anything they did, for they didnt exist yet. I didnt say they were born spiritually alive , they weren't, they were born dead in sin, but leagally alive to God and Justified.

 

[brightfame52]

dude, Your stuck on one verse.

you ignored every verse I gave you which proves you wrong

By the one sacrifice. Those people who TRUSTED God had the opportunity. because his one act of obedience gave them the ability to trust God.

That one verse condemns your unbelief, people who Christ died for are made righteous by that One act of Obedience Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

 

[brightfame52]

your Bible has only ONE VERSE!!!

That one verse condemns your unbelief, its the Gospel, Good News of Christ, of what He accomplished by Himself and you dont believe it.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

lets see your Bible evidence here

lets see yours..

you would not even discuss hers.. did it scare you?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes thats a lie, He died for unbelief, for the elect.

Thats wrong

if he did, they would be born alive in christ. and not need to believe in God and be born again

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You dont believe, and your not dead, And now as you live, you are denying the saving efficacy of Christs death, which frankly is blasphemy and unbelief.

Your saying God is a respector of person's and denying that Christ did not die for the sin of unbelief.

which is mischaracterising God.

thats bad in so many ways

 

[Eternally Grateful]

They were born legally Justified, sanctified, redeemed, had nothing to do with anything they did, for they didnt exist yet. I didnt say they were born spiritually alive , they weren't, they were born dead in sin, but leagally alive to God and Justified.

if they were justified. then they would be alive

Justification means ones sins are forgiven.. It is what happens when we are saved, and is the reason one is made alive..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That one verse condemns your unbelief, people who Christ died for are made righteous by that One act of Obedience Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

And as I proved. MANY WILL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS

WHEN THEY BELIEVE

 

[brightfame52]

Thats wrong

if he did, they would be born alive in christ. and not need to believe in God and be born again

No it is not wrong, what is wrong is that you deny Christ died for all the sins of them He died for. That's a denial of the Gospel big time!

 

[brightfame52]

Your saying God is a respector of person's and denying that Christ did not die for the sin of unbelief.

which is mischaracterising God.

thats bad in so many ways

False accusations! God is no respecter!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No it is not wrong, what is wrong is that you deny Christ died for all the sins of them He died for. That's a denial of the Gospel big time!

Yet you can’t prove me wrong in what I say

He died for all sin those are his own words..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

False accusations! God is no respecter!

He is if he only died for a select group and not for everyone.

so not it is not a false accusation

 

[brightfame52]

if they were justified. then they would be alive

Justification means ones sins are forgiven.. It is what happens when we are saved, and is the reason one is made alive..

Don't have to be alive to be legally justified, you don't have to be alive for Christ to die for one's sins either. You lack understanding

 

[brightfame52]

And as I proved. MANY WILL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS

WHEN THEY BELIEVE

False teaching. They're made righteous by the obedience of one Rom 5:19

 

[brightfame52]

Yet you can’t prove me wrong in what I say

He died for all sin those are his own words..

To me you have been proven wrong and a denial of the efficacy of Christ death!

 

[brightfame52]

He is if he only died for a select group and not for everyone.

so not it is not a false accusation

Nope not true that is your enmity against the True God and His Gospel!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Don't have to be alive to be legally justified, you don't have to be alive for Christ to die for one's sins either. You lack understanding

We are dead because of sin

if we are justified. The penalty of sin is removed, hence we are alive

you should study the judicial system, when one is justified (found innocent of wrong doing) then their penalty is removed.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

False teaching. They're made righteous by the obedience of one Rom 5:19

They are made righteous BECAUSE of that

But God will not force it on them

They must chose to recieve it. as John said

 

[Eternally Grateful]

To me you have been proven wrong and a denial of the efficacy of Christ death!

well its not up to you.

Its up to God.

Christ died for the world,. and will forgive anyone who recieves him, Just as the tax collector did

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Nope not true that is your enmity against the True God and His Gospel!

I believe in his gospel

I do not make him a respector as persons. You do that.

you need to look inside. and get off your calvinistic drama filled gospel